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Old 01-22-2008, 11:35 PM   #1
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Exclamation USB 2.0 NTFS External Hard Drive on Mac, SLOW write speed.. why? fix??

I bought a Seagate FreeAgent Desktop 500 GB External Hard Drive (7200rpm, USB 2.0)
It was originally NTFS-formatted.

I did not want to use HFS+ ("Mac OS Extended, Journaled" format), because I need to use the hard drive with Windows computers as well.

I did not want to use FAT32 ("MS-DOS" Format), because the disk gets fragmented very easily, and there are reliability issues, etc.

So I downloaded MacFUSE and NTFS-3G to get writing privileges on the NTFS device. I got the write access after restarting, but the transfer speeds are agonizingly slow (2 Mb/s to 4 Mb/s). Is this normal?

I formatted the drive to FAT32, and the transfer speed was good.
I used the NTFS-formatted drive on Windows Vista, and the transfer speed was good.
The pathetic speeds are only when I use the NTFS-formatted drive on Mac.
Ejecting and remounting does not help. Restarting does not help.
Partitioning into 2 different volumes, and then partitioning back to a single volume, does not help.
Changing the USB port does not help. Removing all other USB devices (only the Mighty Mouse) does not help.

How can I get fast data transfer speeds between a Mac and an NTFS-formatted external hard drive?

As you can probably tell, I'm pretty desperate for help on this. Anything is appreciated.

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Old 01-22-2008, 11:57 PM   #2
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okay, now there's another problem. The hard drive is not showing on the windows system. This is regardless of whether it is in the FAT32 format or in the NTFS format.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:11 AM   #3
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The easiest and most compatible solution is to format the drive in HFS+ and use MacDrive on the Windows machine.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:22 AM   #4
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Yes, but MacDrive costs, doesn't it? Are there any freeware alternatives?
Plus, it's easier to install some software on one mac, than to buy MacDrive for all the PCs I intend to take data from... everyone around me has a PC. (I pity them, too, but that's the way it is).

And is there any reason why the device, formatted as MS-DOS format, is not being recognised by the windows vista pc?
(other usb storage devices are still being recognised)
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:07 AM   #5
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As long as you're willing to sacrifice reliability and quality for price, your current configuration is best.
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:07 AM   #6
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You'd be happier with a drive that has the dual-option of FireWire/USB. The Mac incarnation of USB 2.0 has come a long way but it still kinda sucks. Meanwhile, FireWire kinda rocks. This is, I think, at least true for NTFS-3G which was initially developed on (ported to, I should say; but then troubleshot on) PowerPC Macs using FireWire, if I understand correctly.
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Old 01-23-2008, 02:34 AM   #7
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Okay, Windows has finally started recognising the drive. It took a while, but the Seagate site mentioned re-initialising the drive or something to that effect.. and data transfer between NTFS device and Windows machine was pretty smooth.

Well, I'm on a shoestring budget here, and so I can't possibly buy another hard drive with FW400/eSATA capabilities.

But coming back to the main point, does everyone out there suffer from speeds of 2-4 Mb/s when writing to an NTFS volume from a mac? Is there something that I've perhaps missed out on?

All I did was: download MacFUSE, install, restart, download NTFS-3G, install, restart.
Did I miss something?
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Old 01-23-2008, 04:14 AM   #8
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manitshah,

I'd suggest using this Paragon NTFS for OSX. Yes, it costs US$29.95, but it works and it works VERY well. This way you won't have to muck around with any of the PC's you need to work on. I was in a similar position a while back needing to move my External HD between my Mac and a large number of PC's that I cannot install ANY software on (Forensic work), but everything seems to work just fine with Paragon NTFS for OSX. I didn't attempt to use MacFuse only because I'm lazy and couldn't be bothered with it! :-)

http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/faq.html


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Old 01-12-2009, 07:19 PM   #9
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I had this same problem when using MacFuse / NTFS-3G. It works but it's slow. I was getting like 6 MB/s going through USB 2.0. When I compare downloading the same file to another non-NTFS drive using the same USB 2.0 connection I was getting 25 MB/s.
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