Where is my airport card? - Page 6

mija · 12-31-2006, 08:30 AM

Look what I've found on wral.com (here: http://www.wral.com/news/technology/story/1121221/ )

"Another lawsuit, filed November 7, alleges that the logic board of Apple's iBook G4 fails at an abnormally high rate. The plaintiff is seeking unspecified damages. In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Apple said its response to the complaint is not yet due."

Skinkie · 12-31-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hairnester


	That's awesome Skinkie. The only thing I have is under the "Are you dual booting" question, change the yes to a no. You might want to also make a list of the most common problems so users coming to the site will be sure that it really is their issue. Are you going to get a domain for it?

I'll update it today. Then we can see if we can get ourselves replaced iBooks...

Hairnester · 01-01-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mija


	Just adding that mine is now occasionally panicking when I'm using the phone modem. As I normally don't use it, I can't say if this is a recent development; I've run it quite a bit the last week and it crashed about three times.

Mine doesn't panic, but if I put my laptop to sleep (starting yesterday) when I open it again and try to use dialup it says that it can't open the communication device. I found it helps -sometimes- to go into the Network Options pane under Sys Prefs, go to configure after selecting modem, choose v 9.0 , apply, then change back to 9.5 it works. Others, it doesn't do squat. Sometimes I have to put it back to sleep or restart. It's really just a tinkering thing...But it's quite annoying.

Hairnester · 01-01-2007, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Skinkie


	Wow I never thought about that! Good thinking! BTW... please give some feedback about the survey. If it is all ok... I'll add a database to it and we can go measure (and after that to apple and/or media)

I say go to Apple and politely demand a fix or threaten to go to the press. That's the only way we can get things done at our school sometimes.

On another note....does anybodys iBook spit out their startup disk if they press Option on startup? I found out I can't even do the hardware check cause when I try, it either spits out the disk or KPs.

skip0pot2mus · 01-01-2007, 07:51 AM

I think I have this problem too, my book was purchased in March 06 so is still under warranty, but I have exactly the same issues.

I don't think it's a temperature problem because mine usually faults within a minute or so of first booting, then I have multiple panics, some at boot, some at osx loading screen, some at apple screen, sometimes it won't boot at all, or boot into single user mode.
Eventually it will boot okay then work fine, like it is at the moment, it could work for hours and it's usually on my lap. Im shaking the thing now and have no panics.
http://forums.macosxhints.com/showth...427#post344427

that's my problems. I'm tempted to get it sent off but because I don't have any purchase info, only the Serial.. I'm not sure what I am meant to do, do I find a local agent or email Apple direct.
Cheers

Skinkie · 01-01-2007, 04:19 PM

Array ( [contactname] => Stefan de Konink [email] => me@me.com [serial] => 000001 [datepurchase] => 010101 [countrypurchase] => The Netherlands [extras] => 1GB Memory [ethernetid] => 00:00:00 [airportid] => 00:00:001 [airport_issues] => enable_panic [other_airport] => [airport_badsignal] => bad signal [boot_issues] => presure_works [dual_boot] => linuxother [otheros] => [lastversion] => OSX 10.4.9 / Linux 2.6.19 [comments] => [allow_datamining] => on [submit] => Send! )

I think this is all... up to mysql...

Skinkie · 01-01-2007, 05:23 PM

http://uva.hobby-site.com/~skinkie/apple.html

We are live. Fill in the information. If one of you want to register a domain. Or host it somewhere else: 3 files. One mysqltable.

hayne · 01-01-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinkie


	[lastversion] => OSX 10.4.9 / Linux 2.6.19

Umm, OS X version 10.4.9 has not yet been released.

Hairnester · 01-02-2007, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Skinkie


	http://uva.hobby-site.com/~skinkie/apple.html We are live. Fill in the information. If one of you want to register a domain. Or host it somewhere else: 3 files. One mysqltable.

I may host...any suggestions on names?

Skinkie · 01-02-2007, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hayne


	Umm, OS X version 10.4.9 has not yet been released.

Lol

Sorry I can't even boot in OSX, so I couldn't look it up.

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Originally Posted by Hairnester


	I may host...any suggestions on names?

logicfix.*? airportpanicattack.*?

Hosting isn't really an issue, but if you register the stuff you can host it

hayne · 01-02-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Skinkie


	I can't even boot in OSX

Have you tried booting into single-user mode? (Hold down Command+S after the chime)
Airport shouldn't be active in single-user mode so I would think that should work if your problem is Airport-related. Then you could perhaps disable Airport from single-user mode.

Or what about booting from the Tiger DVD? You can get to the Terminal application when booted from the Tiger DVD so again you might be able to disable Airport and thus regain use of your Mac.

Skinkie · 01-02-2007, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hayne


	Have you tried booting into single-user mode? (Hold down Command+S after the chime) Airport shouldn't be active in single-user mode so I would think that should work if your problem is Airport-related. Then you could perhaps disable Airport from single-user mode. Or what about booting from the Tiger DVD? You can get to the Terminal application when booted from the Tiger DVD so again you might be able to disable Airport and thus regain use of your Mac.

I just use Linux, but the 'safe' mode works yeah. But since rebooting is so dramatic... I prefer to stick with a working OS.

Btw I find it unbelieveble that Linux just crashes the kernel module bcm43xx and OSX crashes all the way. Maybe this is design choice: crash if something fails, but it is not very smart.

nquinnathome1 · 01-02-2007, 12:27 PM

Yes its a shame it has to crash the whole lot; for an operating system based on Unix and the use of modularisation, Apple have taken a step backwards there.

skip0pot2mus · 01-02-2007, 12:56 PM

Well I've just had no end of trouble trying to boot just now. I've turned airport off and been running on ethernet, but whenever I first boot [in the morning, or after work] it's a hell of a task, I just have to keep trying, until eventually it will boot, and then wont panic [with airport off].

My most recent panic log states airport2 as the panic but I hadn't even managed to boot to the apple logo, so it's having an issue with airport at that stage!? How.

Skinkie · 01-02-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by skip0pot2mus


	Well I've just had no end of trouble trying to boot just now. I've turned airport off and been running on ethernet, but whenever I first boot [in the morning, or after work] it's a hell of a task, I just have to keep trying, until eventually it will boot, and then wont panic [with airport off]. My most recent panic log states airport2 as the panic but I hadn't even managed to boot to the apple logo, so it's having an issue with airport at that stage!? How.

Try to put pressure under the ctrl/alt keys on the bottom side. This will help for most people to boot.

skip0pot2mus · 01-04-2007, 08:37 AM

Will do.tks

Skinkie · 01-04-2007, 09:15 PM

Guys, I have contacted two of the five (!) lawyers on the Vitt vs Apple case (the logic board G4) stuff. I hope to get some response otherwise I will call them tomorrow.

mija · 01-05-2007, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Skinkie


	Guys, I have contacted two of the five (!) lawyers on the Vitt vs Apple case (the logic board G4) stuff. I hope to get some response otherwise I will call them tomorrow.

well done skinkie, thanks!

beerfueled · 01-05-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bertieboy


	Hi Trevor I am struggling to turn airport off. Sometimes it lets me in and allows me to use a few applications but as soon as I click on the airport icon at the top I get kernel panic'd again. I have bluetooth off and no other network settings - I have just got it back from an apple authorised repairer who (incorrectly) decided the problem was with OSX and reinstalled it - so I have pretty much a pristine set up. No peripherals are attached at all. I can safe boot to my heart's content and never get a kernel panic. I haven't tried to boot from the install DVD because the version of OSX on there now is newer than my install disc version. I have created a new user - same problem. No recent changes at all. Thanks for your help.

I had the same problem, but managed to stop the kernel from loading the airport module with this rather ugly hack (do this at your own risk):

Start the computer in single user mode and mount the file system read-write. cd to /System/Library/Extensions where you will find several folders named AppleAirPort*. These are the kernel extensions for the airport, and they are loaded when the computer starts. You can prevent the computer from loading them by renaming the folders.

For example rename (using mv command) the AppleAirPort2.kext folder to AppleAirPort2.kext.old, or something like it. I suggest renaming rather than deleting in case you would like to load the driver again, in that case just change the name back.

If anyone knows how to disable the module by editing the startup scripts I would much like to know. It feels "wrong" to just rename the folders

beerfueled · 01-05-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hayne


	I note that both 'forest' and 'Skinkie' apparently have dual-boot machines: Linux and OS X. Is this a commonality among those having problems with Airport and kernel panics? If so, maybe it is merely an incompatibility with whatever was done to make the machines dual-bootable.

I have exactly the same problem without dual-boot. Before reinstalling to try to solve the problem, the only OS on the computer was the OS X installation that came preinstalled.

12-31-2006, 08:30 AM	#101
mija Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 22	Look what I've found on wral.com (here: http://www.wral.com/news/technology/story/1121221/ ) "Another lawsuit, filed November 7, alleges that the logic board of Apple's iBook G4 fails at an abnormally high rate. The plaintiff is seeking unspecified damages. In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, Apple said its response to the complaint is not yet due." Last edited by mija; 12-31-2006 at 11:35 AM. Reason: edited for the funky fireworks

01-01-2007, 07:51 AM	#105
skip0pot2mus Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 32	I think I have this problem too, my book was purchased in March 06 so is still under warranty, but I have exactly the same issues. I don't think it's a temperature problem because mine usually faults within a minute or so of first booting, then I have multiple panics, some at boot, some at osx loading screen, some at apple screen, sometimes it won't boot at all, or boot into single user mode. Eventually it will boot okay then work fine, like it is at the moment, it could work for hours and it's usually on my lap. Im shaking the thing now and have no panics. http://forums.macosxhints.com/showth...427#post344427 that's my problems. I'm tempted to get it sent off but because I don't have any purchase info, only the Serial.. I'm not sure what I am meant to do, do I find a local agent or email Apple direct. Cheers

01-01-2007, 04:19 PM	#106
Skinkie Triple-A Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 53	Array ( [contactname] => Stefan de Konink [email] => me@me.com [serial] => 000001 [datepurchase] => 010101 [countrypurchase] => The Netherlands [extras] => 1GB Memory [ethernetid] => 00:00:00 [airportid] => 00:00:001 [airport_issues] => enable_panic [other_airport] => [airport_badsignal] => bad signal [boot_issues] => presure_works [dual_boot] => linuxother [otheros] => [lastversion] => OSX 10.4.9 / Linux 2.6.19 [comments] => [allow_datamining] => on [submit] => Send! ) I think this is all... up to mysql...

01-01-2007, 05:23 PM	#107
Skinkie Triple-A Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 53	http://uva.hobby-site.com/~skinkie/apple.html We are live. Fill in the information. If one of you want to register a domain. Or host it somewhere else: 3 files. One mysqltable.

01-02-2007, 12:27 PM	#113
nquinnathome1 Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Herts, UK Posts: 18	Yes its a shame it has to crash the whole lot; for an operating system based on Unix and the use of modularisation, Apple have taken a step backwards there.

01-02-2007, 12:56 PM	#114
skip0pot2mus Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 32	Well I've just had no end of trouble trying to boot just now. I've turned airport off and been running on ethernet, but whenever I first boot [in the morning, or after work] it's a hell of a task, I just have to keep trying, until eventually it will boot, and then wont panic [with airport off]. My most recent panic log states airport2 as the panic but I hadn't even managed to boot to the apple logo, so it's having an issue with airport at that stage!? How.

01-04-2007, 08:37 AM	#116
skip0pot2mus Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 32	Will do.tks

01-04-2007, 09:15 PM	#117
Skinkie Triple-A Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 53	Guys, I have contacted two of the five (!) lawyers on the Vitt vs Apple case (the logic board G4) stuff. I hope to get some response otherwise I will call them tomorrow.