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Old 02-13-2006, 03:40 PM   #1
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Angry Why won't custom icons stay custom in 10.4.4?

It's very frustrating. But ever since I upped from 10.4.3 to 10.4.4 on my G5 iMac my custom icons don't last.

I add the icon via the Get Info window and it works. Then either after a few minutes, 2 days, a restart or opening the customed doc... the icon reverts to its old default.

I have reinstalled the OS + upgrade. But I probably lose at least 3 custom icons a day!

What is wrong, please?
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Old 02-13-2006, 03:54 PM   #2
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What system hacks are you running on your computer?

Have you repaired your permissions recently?

Is there anything unusual that you are aware of on your computer regarding ownership or permissions?

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Old 02-13-2006, 04:21 PM   #3
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What system hacks are you running on your computer?

The default for saving screen captures is changed from the desktop to a folder in Documents, I use double scroll arrows at both ends of the scroll bars. I use the latest Transparent Dock and DragThing (both updated specfically for 10.4.4). Déja Vu backs up my files. I use a Logitech keyboard and mouse and the accompanying Control Center engine. Two mouse button zoom in and out for me. That's about it.

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Have you repaired your permissions recently?

I use PseudoAnacron to direct the regular maintenance that gets missed when my computer is off. I'm thinking it might not do that but I've reinstalled the OS from disk 3 times this week and that should have taken care of it.

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Is there anything unusual that you are aware of on your computer regarding ownership or permissions?

I'm the only user so I log in automatically under my usual admin account, and I have an emergency and trouble shooting user account that I keep as a stand by.

My method of making custom icons with a transparent background is roundabout ('cause that's hard to do in OSX) but even icons I download and ones I make with just solid backgrounds disappear too.

I hope that's the kind of info you were after, Trevor.

Thanks
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Old 02-13-2006, 07:13 PM   #4
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Hmmm. Nothing obvious leaps out, unfortunately. Does the disappearance happen after Déja Vu backs up?

Custom icons are stored in a file named exactly Icon which has it's invisibility flag set. These files are in the same directory as the item with the custom icon. (The only custom icon with a different name is a custom icon put on a drive volume.) If something happens during backup that deletes invisible files, perhaps that is why your custom icons are disappearing.

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Old 02-13-2006, 08:19 PM   #5
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Does the disappearance happen after Déja Vu backs up?

Not exclusively. The most common time is after a restart. About half my restarts could be suspect if that's what is going on. But like today, I put up a new icon this morning (after the deja vu backup) and this afternoon it was gone, with no intervening restart.

Sometimes it takes only minutes to lose the custom icon. More often it is 10 to 20 hours or after a restart.

I think this did not happen in 10.4.3. Deja Vu has only been used since 10.4.4. I do have a program that scans for icons on my HD (Pixadex) and copies them to a file but that probably is not it because I haven't rescanned in a couple of days and it is of course happening anyway.
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Old 02-13-2006, 08:56 PM   #6
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What filesystem is your hard drive formatted in? Are you using anything unusual, like that new HFS-case sensitive format? If you don't know, you can find out using Disk Utility > click the volume name on the left, and check down at the bottom under "Format".

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Old 02-13-2006, 10:03 PM   #7
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Don't see "Format" explicitly. Do you mean Paertition type?

Name : Macintosh HD Upstairs
Type : Volume

Disk Identifier : disk0s3
Mount Point : /
File System : Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Connection Bus : ATA
Partition Type : Apple_HFS
Device Tree : first-boot/@0:3
Writable : Yes
Universal Unique Identifier : 1492E248-CC0C-372A-BAB0-5216CE673EE8
Capacity : 148.9 GB (159,907,630,080 Bytes)
Free Space : 129.9 GB (139,433,558,016 Bytes)
Used : 19.1 GB (20,474,068,992 Bytes)
Number of Files : 263,411
Number of Folders : 70,900
Owners Enabled : Yes
Can Turn Owners Off : Yes
Can Repair Permissions : Yes
Can Be Verified : Yes
Can Be Repaired : Yes
Can Be Formatted : Yes
Bootable : Yes
Supports Journaling : Yes
Journaled : Yes
S.M.A.R.T. Status : Verified
Disk Number : 0
Partition Number : 3
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Old 02-13-2006, 10:38 PM   #8
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No, I meant Format. Please see the attached image. However, the information given above is another way to answer the question, and it appears that you haven't chosen the case-sensitive HFS.

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Old 02-13-2006, 10:44 PM   #9
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Can you show us your logs? They are easily viewed using your Console app, in /Application/Utilities.

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Old 02-14-2006, 01:16 AM   #10
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Eek, this is long:

Mac OS X Version 10.4.4 (Build 8G32)
2006-02-13 15:28:34 -0500
dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../Frameworks/StuffIt.framework/Versions/A/StuffIt
Referenced from: /Applications/Stuffit Expander/StuffIt 10.0/StuffIt Expander.app/Contents/Resources/ExpanderDaemon.app/Contents/MacOS/ExpanderDaemon
Reason: image not found
2006-02-13 15:28:35.546 loginwindow[229] FSResolveAliasWithMountFlags returned err = -43
Feb 13 15:28:36 Upstairs-Computer crashdump[257]: ExpanderDaemon crashed
Feb 13 15:28:37 Upstairs-Computer crashdump[257]: crash report written to: /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ExpanderDaemon.crash.log
2006-02-13 15:28:37.704 SystemUIServer[244] lang is:en
2006-02-13 16:22:11.343 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): Old-style plist parser: missing semicolon in dictionary.
2006-02-13 16:22:11.347 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): The file name for this data might be (or it might not): Contents/Info.plist -- file://localhost/Volumes/Maxtor%20200%20Recovery/Applications/GraphicConverter/
2006-02-13 16:22:11.356 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): Old-style plist parser: missing semicolon in dictionary.
2006-02-13 16:22:11.360 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): The file name for this data might be (or it might not): Contents/Info.plist -- file://localhost/Volumes/Maxtor%20200%20Recovery/Applications/GraphicConverter/
2006-02-13 16:22:11.375 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): Old-style plist parser: missing semicolon in dictionary.
2006-02-13 16:22:11.379 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): The file name for this data might be (or it might not): Contents/Info.plist -- file://localhost/Volumes/Maxtor%20200%20Recovery/Applications/GraphicConverter/
2006-02-13 16:22:11.388 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): Old-style plist parser: missing semicolon in dictionary.
2006-02-13 16:22:11.392 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): The file name for this data might be (or it might not): Contents/Info.plist -- file://localhost/Volumes/Maxtor%20200%20Recovery/Applications/GraphicConverter/
2006-02-13 16:22:11.626 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): Old-style plist parser: missing semicolon in dictionary.
2006-02-13 16:22:11.630 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): The file name for this data might be (or it might not): Contents/Info.plist -- file://localhost/Volumes/Maxtor%20200%20Recovery/Applications/GraphicConverter/
2006-02-13 16:22:11.639 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): Old-style plist parser: missing semicolon in dictionary.
2006-02-13 16:22:11.643 Finder[245] CFLog (0): CFPropertyListCreateFromXMLData(): The file name for this data might be (or it might not): Contents/Info.plist -- file://localhost/Volumes/Maxtor%20200%20Recovery/Applications/GraphicConverter/
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext
Ignoring Quickdraw drawing between QDBeginCGContext and QDEndCGContext

**********
Disk Utility started.

Name : ST3160023AS
Type : Disk

Disk Identifier : disk0
Media Name : ST3160023AS Media
Media Type : Generic
Connection Bus : Serial ATA
Connection Type : Internal
Connection ID : Device 0
Partition Type : Apple_partition_scheme
Device Tree : first-boot/@0:0
Writable : Yes
Ejectable : No
Mac OS 9 Drivers Installed : No
Location : Internal
Total Capacity : 149.1 GB (160,041,885,696 Bytes)
S.M.A.R.T. Status : Verified
Disk Number : 0
Partition Number : 0


Name : Macintosh HD Upstairs
Type : Volume

Disk Identifier : disk0s3
Mount Point : /
File System : Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Connection Bus : ATA
Partition Type : Apple_HFS
Device Tree : first-boot/@0:3
Writable : Yes
Universal Unique Identifier : 1492E248-CC0C-372A-BAB0-5216CE673EE8
Capacity : 148.9 GB (159,907,630,080 Bytes)
Free Space : 129.9 GB (139,433,558,016 Bytes)
Used : 19.1 GB (20,474,068,992 Bytes)
Number of Files : 263,411
Number of Folders : 70,900
Owners Enabled : Yes
Can Turn Owners Off : Yes
Can Repair Permissions : Yes
Can Be Verified : Yes
Can Be Repaired : Yes
Can Be Formatted : Yes
Bootable : Yes
Supports Journaling : Yes
Journaled : Yes
S.M.A.R.T. Status : Verified
Disk Number : 0
Partition Number : 3


Name : ST3160023AS
Type : Disk

Disk Identifier : disk0
Media Name : ST3160023AS Media
Media Type : Generic
Connection Bus : Serial ATA
Connection Type : Internal
Connection ID : Device 0
Partition Type : Apple_partition_scheme
Device Tree : first-boot/@0:0
Writable : Yes
Ejectable : No
Mac OS 9 Drivers Installed : No
Location : Internal
Total Capacity : 149.1 GB (160,041,885,696 Bytes)
S.M.A.R.T. Status : Verified
Disk Number : 0
Partition Number : 0


Name : Macintosh HD Upstairs
Type : Volume

Disk Identifier : disk0s3
Mount Point : /
File System : Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
Connection Bus : ATA
Partition Type : Apple_HFS
Device Tree : first-boot/@0:3
Writable : Yes
Universal Unique Identifier : 1492E248-CC0C-372A-BAB0-5216CE673EE8
Capacity : 148.9 GB (159,907,630,080 Bytes)
Free Space : 129.9 GB (139,433,558,016 Bytes)
Used : 19.1 GB (20,474,068,992 Bytes)
Number of Files : 263,411
Number of Folders : 70,900
Owners Enabled : Yes
Can Turn Owners Off : Yes
Can Repair Permissions : Yes
Can Be Verified : Yes
Can Be Repaired : Yes
Can Be Formatted : Yes
Bootable : Yes
Supports Journaling : Yes
Journaled : Yes
S.M.A.R.T. Status : Verified
Disk Number : 0
Partition Number : 3

(see next post for the rest); too many characters.
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Old 02-14-2006, 01:18 AM   #11
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(continued)


dyld: Library not loaded: @executable_path/../Frameworks/StuffIt.framework/Versions/A/StuffIt
Referenced from: /Applications/Stuffit Expander/StuffIt 10.0/StuffIt Expander.app/Contents/Resources/ExpanderDaemon.app/Contents/MacOS/ExpanderDaemon
Reason: image not found
Feb 13 22:19:46 Upstairs-Computer crashdump[374]: ExpanderDaemon crashed
Feb 13 22:19:46 Upstairs-Computer crashdump[374]: crash report written to: /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ExpanderDaemon.crash.log
2006-02-13 22:20:39.361 DiskImages UI Agent[382] Could not find image named 'background'.
WARNING: ## igDriverDatabase::detectCpuVendor NYI, returning hardcoded value
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: igDriverDatabase::detectCpuType not yet implemented, returning hardcoded value
No stack trace available in this build.

Intrinsic Alchemy v3.0 Beta-0120 (Dynamic/Release)
Built by marcinr on Fri Jan 20 18:08:24 PST 2006

INFO: Using igOglVisualContext.
QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
QPixmap::convertFromImage: Cannot convert a null image
Qt: QCursor: Cannot create bitmap cursor; invalid bitmap(s)
QLayout "unnamed" added to QDockWindow "Measure", which already has a layout
QLayout: Cannot add null widget to QBoxLayout/unnamed
QObject::connect: No such slot LayerWidget::itemRenamed(QListViewItem*,int,const QString&)
QObject::connect: (sender name: 'mLayerTree')
QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'LayerWidget')
QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()
QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()
WARNING: igOglVisualContext::setDisplayMode: not yet implemented
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: igOglVisualContext::initGLWindowExtensions: not tet implemented
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: ## igDriverDatabase::detectCpuVendor NYI, returning hardcoded value
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: igDriverDatabase::detectCpuType not yet implemented, returning hardcoded value
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: igOglVisualContext::internalGetDriverVersion: Not yet implemented
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: PBufferInterface::init: not yet implemented
No stack trace available in this build.
Feb 13 22:21:29 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:21:29 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
25.479864: LoginProcess::doLogin()
login complete in 26.714528
27.515528: LayerWindow::start() start
28.320048: LayerWindow::start() end
Feb 13 22:21:34 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:21:34 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:21:34 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:21:34 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
QObject::connect: No such slot LayerWidget::itemRenamed(QListViewItem*,int,const QString&)
QObject::connect: (sender name: 'unnamed')
QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'My Keyhole')
Feb 13 22:27:24 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:24 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:29 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:29 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:29 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:29 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:29 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:29 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:30 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:30 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:52 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:27:52 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:54:08 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:54:08 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:56:11 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:56:11 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:56:37 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 22:56:37 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 23:01:05 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 23:01:05 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 23:01:05 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 13 23:01:05 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
WARNING: ## igDriverDatabase::detectCpuVendor NYI, returning hardcoded value
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: igDriverDatabase::detectCpuType not yet implemented, returning hardcoded value
No stack trace available in this build.

Intrinsic Alchemy v3.0 Beta-0120 (Dynamic/Release)
Built by marcinr on Fri Jan 20 18:08:24 PST 2006

INFO: Using igOglVisualContext.
QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
QPixmap::convertFromImage: Cannot convert a null image
Qt: QCursor: Cannot create bitmap cursor; invalid bitmap(s)
QLayout "unnamed" added to QDockWindow "Measure", which already has a layout
QLayout: Cannot add null widget to QBoxLayout/unnamed
QObject::connect: No such slot LayerWidget::itemRenamed(QListViewItem*,int,const QString&)
QObject::connect: (sender name: 'mLayerTree')
QObject::connect: (receiver name: 'LayerWidget')
QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()
QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()
WARNING: igOglVisualContext::setDisplayMode: not yet implemented
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: igOglVisualContext::initGLWindowExtensions: not tet implemented
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: ## igDriverDatabase::detectCpuVendor NYI, returning hardcoded value
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: igDriverDatabase::detectCpuType not yet implemented, returning hardcoded value
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: igOglVisualContext::internalGetDriverVersion: Not yet implemented
No stack trace available in this build.
WARNING: PBufferInterface::init: not yet implemented
No stack trace available in this build.
Feb 14 00:23:14 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 14 00:23:14 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
4.769703: LoginProcess::doLogin()
login complete in 6.415184
Feb 14 00:23:17 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 14 00:23:17 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context
7.375250: LayerWindow::start() start
8.097267: LayerWindow::start() end
Feb 14 00:23:18 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetFillColorWithColor: invalid context
Feb 14 00:23:18 Upstairs-Computer /Users/robertkinleyjohnson/Desktop/Google Earth.app/Contents/MacOS/Google Earth: CGContextSetStrokeColorWithColor: invalid context

**********
Disk Utility started.

(All done); my goodness, that's a lot of data, and even know what some of it means.
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Old 02-14-2006, 01:29 AM   #12
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Just noticed while pasting all this: lost another one. I've been doing a lot of drawing intensive work in Excel. That has messed with my Excel frameworks file before (about 6 times). I either have to replace it with a pre-made backup or eventually reinstall Excel.

Since it's a graphics thing/glitch, I thought I had better mention it. Sorry I only remembered it now.
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Old 02-14-2006, 03:33 AM   #13
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Wow. You seem to be having problems with Stuffit Expander (it crashed twice), LOTS of problems with Google Earth (most of your log is related to Google Earth), and it looks like you tried to mount a disk image and it failed. There's some problems with Quicktime, too. But nothing that I can glean about deleting icons.

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Old 02-14-2006, 09:18 AM   #14
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Wow. You seem to be having problems with Stuffit Expander (it crashed twice) ... and it looks like you tried to mount a disk image and it failed.

Ouch, lots of issues. Stuffit has been strange since the beginning, i.e. right out of the box. I often will get an error in a download and the workaround has been to go to the downloaded file, duplicate it before clicking ok on the error message, and then the original file self-deletes (or Stuffit, rather), but the duplication is always just fine. I was going to get around to persueing this problem in a forum; it's happening now less than it used to.

The disk images failures are always during the end of the unstuffit process. They ALWAYS mount fine when I go back and double click the .dmg manually. I guess I should reinstall Stuffit, huh?

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LOTS of problems with Google Earth (most of your log is related to Google Earth),

That's actually funny. I used to have GE installed but removed;I dislike GE because the resolution is so weak and the maps are more than 5 years out of date, exactly like the Google Maps data. i, just for last night, reinstalled GE to supplement the GIS data looking at a small town in Maine. But I didn't know it was buggy too.

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There's some problems with Quicktime, too. But nothing that I can glean about deleting icons.

QT was just updated too via their website. What's going on? Should I be having this many problems with mainstream downloaded apps? And Stuffit comes from the OS install disk.

Do you think these are symptoms of a wider problem? Maybe I got a flakey unit. Or maybe it's just bad luck.
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:49 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by avalon
Should I be having this many problems with mainstream downloaded apps?

No.
You should try the standard troubleshooting suggestions:
http://www.apple.com/support/mac101/ (see the "My Mac needs help" section)
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...04011205473937
http://forums.osxfaq.com/viewtopic.php?t=7269
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/faqs.html

In particular, be sure to do "Repair Disk" (different from "Repair Disk Permissions"!) in Disk Utility when booted from the Install CD/DVD. I.e. you restart from the Install CD/DVD, then run the version of Disk Utility that is available from one of the menus there.
See this Apple doc:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
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Old 02-15-2006, 12:36 AM   #16
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My disk needed no repairs, my Disk Permissions needed repairs. I think not all the repairs worked though: "user should be 0, user is 501...."

I'll add my saved installer log after two questions, well three.

1- What will I lose if I clean system and user caches?
2- What settings will be lost if I reset the pram?
3- Will I lose anything if I reinstall the firmware?

Thanks.

Log:

Feb 14 20:51:24 localhost : kern.boottime = Tue Feb 14 20:50:43 2006

Feb 14 20:51:29 localhost : Launching the Language Chooser for an OS Install
Feb 14 20:51:44 localhost : Found primary language hint "en"
Feb 14 20:51:45 localhost : Language Chooser ready
Feb 14 20:51:49 localhost : Launching the Installer using language code "English"
Feb 14 20:51:49 localhost : @(#)PROGRAM:Install PROJECT:Install-115 DEVELOPER:root BUILT:Mar 24 2005 19:49:35

Feb 14 20:51:49 localhost : @(#)PROGRAM:Installer PROJECT:Installer-83 DEVELOPER:root BUILT:Mar 22 2005 20:32:47

Feb 14 20:51:49 localhost : Hardware: PowerMac8,2 @ 1800 MHz, 512 MB
Feb 14 20:51:49 localhost : Running OS Build: 8A428
Feb 14 20:51:49 localhost : It took 0.323948 seconds to parse the distribution script "OSInstall.dist"
Feb 14 20:51:49 localhost : Mac OS X Installation Log
Feb 14 20:51:49 localhost : Opened from: /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg
Feb 14 20:51:51 localhost : It took 1.418388 seconds to load 8 UI sections
Feb 14 20:51:51 localhost : Entering Introduction section
Feb 14 20:51:51 localhost : Physical Memory Allocation: 63 MB wired, 60 MB active, 49 MB inactive, 172 MB used, 338 MB free, 512 MB total
Feb 14 20:51:51 localhost : It took 0.100063 seconds to -[IFDistXMLDocument readAndValidateDocument]
Feb 14 20:51:51 localhost : It took 2.421513 seconds to finish launching.
Feb 14 20:51:51 localhost : It took 0.042252 seconds to perform the Installation Check
Feb 14 20:51:51 localhost : Installation checks completed successfully.
Feb 14 20:51:53 localhost : It took 3.911002 seconds to do the initial process of the targets
Feb 14 20:51:57 localhost : It took 0.001095 seconds to perform a Volume Check on "Macintosh HD Upstairs"
Feb 14 20:51:57 localhost : /Volumes/Macintosh HD Upstairs cannot be used as a target because: A newer version of Mac OS X is installed.
Feb 14 20:51:57 localhost : It took 4.898808 seconds to process the volume "Macintosh HD Upstairs"
Feb 14 20:51:57 localhost : disk2s9 is not bootable because it has no Open Firmware path
Feb 14 20:51:57 localhost : /Volumes/Maxtor 200 Recovery cannot be used as a target because: Mac OS X cannot start up from this volume.
Feb 14 20:51:57 localhost : It took 0.000869 seconds to process the volume "Maxtor 200 Recovery"
Feb 14 20:52:32 localhost : Verify and Repair disk “Macintosh HD Upstairs”

Feb 14 20:52:33 localhost : Checking HFS Plus volume.

Feb 14 20:52:33 localhost : Checking Extents Overflow file.

Feb 14 20:52:33 localhost : Checking Catalog file.

Feb 14 20:52:44 localhost : Checking multi-linked files.

Feb 14 20:52:44 localhost : Checking Catalog hierarchy.

Feb 14 20:53:26 localhost : Checking Extended Attributes file.

Feb 14 20:53:26 localhost : Checking volume bitmap.

Feb 14 20:53:26 localhost : Checking volume information.

Feb 14 20:53:26 localhost : The volume Macintosh HD Upstairs appears to be OK.

Feb 14 20:53:26 localhost : Mounting Disk

Feb 14 20:53:26 localhost :

Feb 14 20:53:26 localhost : 1 HFS volume checked

Feb 14 20:53:26 localhost : No repairs were necessary

Feb 14 20:53:27 localhost :

Feb 14 20:53:27 localhost :

Feb 14 20:53:29 localhost : It took 0.000947 seconds to perform a Volume Check on "Macintosh HD Upstairs"
Feb 14 20:53:29 localhost : /Volumes/Macintosh HD Upstairs cannot be used as a target because: A newer version of Mac OS X is installed.
Feb 14 20:53:29 localhost : It took 2.145369 seconds to process the volume "Macintosh HD Upstairs"
Feb 14 20:53:37 localhost : Repairing permissions for “Macintosh HD Upstairs”

Feb 14 20:53:37 localhost : Determining correct file permissions.

Feb 14 20:53:44 localhost : parent directory ./Users/Shared/SC Info does not exist

Feb 14 20:54:02 localhost : Permissions differ on ./Library/Widgets, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxr-xr-x

Feb 14 20:54:02 localhost : Owner and group corrected on ./Library/Widgets

Feb 14 20:54:02 localhost : Permissions corrected on ./Library/Widgets

Feb 14 20:54:02 localhost : Permissions differ on ./Library, should be drwxrwxr-t , they are drwxrwxr-x

Feb 14 20:54:02 localhost : Owner and group corrected on ./Library

Feb 14 20:54:02 localhost : Permissions corrected on ./Library

Feb 14 20:54:15 localhost : Group differs on ./private/etc/authorization, should be 80, group is 0

Feb 14 20:54:15 localhost : Owner and group corrected on ./private/etc/authorization

Feb 14 20:54:15 localhost : Permissions corrected on ./private/etc/authorization

Feb 14 20:54:15 localhost : Permissions differ on ./private/var/log/secure.log, should be -rw------- , they are -rw-r-----

Feb 14 20:54:15 localhost : Owner and group corrected on ./private/var/log/secure.log

Feb 14 20:54:15 localhost : Permissions corrected on ./private/var/log/secure.log

Feb 14 20:54:16 localhost : Permissions differ on ./usr/lib/php/build/acinclude.m4, should be -r-xr-xr-x , they are -r--r--r--

Feb 14 20:54:16 localhost : Owner and group corrected on ./usr/lib/php/build/acinclude.m4

Feb 14 20:54:16 localhost : Permissions corrected on ./usr/lib/php/build/acinclude.m4

Feb 14 20:54:21 localhost :

Feb 14 20:54:21 localhost : Permissions repair complete

Feb 14 20:54:21 localhost :

Feb 14 20:54:21 localhost :

Feb 14 20:54:21 localhost : User differs on ., should be 0, owner is 501

Feb 14 20:54:21 localhost : Owner and group corrected on .

Feb 14 20:54:21 localhost : Permissions corrected on .

Feb 14 20:54:21 localhost : The privileges have been verified or repaired on the selected volume

Feb 14 20:56:31 localhost : 2006-02-14 20:56:31.146 Disk Utility[111] AHLookupAnchor failed

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Name : Macintosh HD Upstairs

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Type : Volume

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost :

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Disk Identifier : disk0s3

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Mount Point : /Volumes/Macintosh HD Upstairs

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : File System : Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Connection Bus : ATA

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Partition Type : Apple_HFS

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Device Tree : first-boot/@0:3

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Writable : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Universal Unique Identifier : 1492E248-CC0C-372A-BAB0-5216CE673EE8

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Capacity : 148.9 GB (159,907,630,080 Bytes)

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Free Space : 118.7 GB (127,467,442,176 Bytes)

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Used : 30.2 GB (32,440,184,832 Bytes)

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Number of Files : 269,064

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Number of Folders : 71,888

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Owners Enabled : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Can Turn Owners Off : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Can Repair Permissions : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Can Be Verified : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Can Be Repaired : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Can Be Formatted : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Bootable : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Supports Journaling : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Journaled : Yes

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : S.M.A.R.T. Status : Verified

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Disk Number : 0

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost : Partition Number : 3

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost :

Feb 14 21:02:10 localhost :

Feb 14 21:02:45 localhost : 2006-02-14 21:02:45.034 Disk Utility[111] AHLookupAnchor failed

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Old 02-15-2006, 05:46 AM   #17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avalon
1- What will I lose if I clean system and user caches?
2- What settings will be lost if I reset the pram?
3- Will I lose anything if I reinstall the firmware?

1. Nothing of importance. Some cache files you don't need.
2. Nothing of importance. In some limited cases your time might be reset. You might lose the time zone that you are in.
3. You can't reinstall the firmware. If you reset the Open Firmware variables, you will lost nothing of importance.

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Old 02-15-2006, 05:51 AM   #18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avalon
My disk needed no repairs, my Disk Permissions needed repairs. I think not all the repairs worked though: "user should be 0, user is 501...."

It is best NOT to run Repair Permissions while booted to your Install CD/DVD unless you are in an emergency situation. Repair Permissions is best run while booted from the hard drive itself. I'd advise you to re-run Repair Permissions while booted from your hard drive to clean up several of the outdated permissions that your Install CD has now set incorrectly.

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Old 02-15-2006, 06:01 PM   #19
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I have:

Cleaned the system and user caches

Reset the PRAM

Reset the open firmware

Repaired my permissions via the hard drive

Restored lots of custom icons

Ripped out eveything "stuffit", redownloaded and reinstalled

Redownloaded "Quick Time" and reinstalled



Time to use the files, get some info on random things, reboot, reboot, wait (up to) hours... and see if the icons continue going awol.

Thanks for your help so far.
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Old 02-15-2006, 06:30 PM   #20
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If you continue to have a problem with this, you might just take one example custom icon as a test case, identify what "Icon" file is associated with that example, and then run my 'watchfile' script to see when the "Icon" file changes. Then maybe you could correlate the change to something you are doing.

You could add extra lines in the script to make it notify you when the change happens. E.g. to make a beep:
print "\a";
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