Enabling Bluetooth for iSync on the Verizon/Motorola E815 phone - Page 2

shaznyc · 01-08-2006, 10:28 PM

That great CALvarez, and were you able to transfer files (audio,pix) Mac to phone.
I am able to isync with Address Book & iCal, even the dial up works through Bluetooth to Mac. But I still can not send files.

I have been using a TransFlach, but will like to use Bluetooth to transfer files, since I paid for the thing.
Has anyone found a link for the Motorola Phone Setting Tool yet. I have been looking on my end, but luck.

CAlvarez · 01-09-2006, 12:24 AM

Verizon cripples the OBEX profile, so you can't transfer files without paying for their file transfer services. That's only one of many anti-consumer things that Verizon is known for.

MBHockey · 01-09-2006, 12:54 AM

I bought a cable off ebay to hook up to my PC so i could do a seem hack on my phone to enable OBEX.

However, i couldn't, after about 4 hours, get the PC to recognize the phone and install it correctly. Grrr Windows...

tarlint · 01-16-2006, 10:43 PM

Hi everyone, I'm not a newbie, in fact, I've hacked my phone multiple times...but I have one stinkin' problem. I cannot isync now that I've hacked my phone. I cannot isync over bluetooth. I've went back to the original seem. I've altered the original seem. I really need to be able to sync the contacts and adresses. It worked before the hack, now after, with obex and everything enabled, it tells me that the device cannot be found. Anyone help? or can anyone email me thier seem that isyncs correctly so I can try? Thanks.

jwexler · 02-01-2006, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tarlint


	Hi everyone, I'm not a newbie, in fact, I've hacked my phone multiple times...but I have one stinkin' problem. I cannot isync now that I've hacked my phone. I cannot isync over bluetooth. I've went back to the original seem. I've altered the original seem. I really need to be able to sync the contacts and adresses. It worked before the hack, now after, with obex and everything enabled, it tells me that the device cannot be found. Anyone help? or can anyone email me thier seem that isyncs correctly so I can try? Thanks.

I've been doing a lot of reading on this...it seems you have to remove the phone from iSync and un-pair it, then re-pair it via bluetooth again. Apparently the hack changes some information that iSync uses to recognize the phone.

dls555 · 02-14-2006, 10:25 AM

i've got the same problem. While OBEX now works after the E815 seem edit, I cannot get iSync to synch calendar and contacts. iSync recognizes the phone OK, but I get an error dialog when the synch fails (can't attach dialog image here--new forum member??). I'm using iSync 2.1.1 (OSX 10.4.4) and have removed the old, pre-seem-edit device in iSync and re-paired the phone. In fact, I've repeated removed the phone in iSync and re-paired, to no avail.

MBHockey · 03-28-2006, 10:54 AM

Hi all, I finally got obex working (Thanks Gerry!), but also experience the problem with iSync failing to recognize the phone then. Has anyone come up with a solution?

What i've tried is what was suggested earlier -- removing and re-pairing the device with my computer.

CAlvarez · 03-28-2006, 11:23 AM

Sorry, I don't have any good troubleshooting tips. I can tell you I've tried a couple of E815s and they worked fine from the start. So maybe deleting the pairing then doing a full factory reset on the phone is something to try? Here's the way I've done it with three phones, all worked.

Brand new phone, give it a full charge.

Turn on and dial ##dialup.

Start a pairing from the PowerBook, answer yes to options to use it for internet access and to sync.

Run a sync.

Simple as that. Maybe the hack given at the beginning of this thread makes it worse. I've done this a couple of other times at the Verizon store to show them how it is done (the manager was very interested since he has to turn away Mac users for the data cards, since they don't officially support Macs).

MBHockey · 03-28-2006, 12:12 PM

Wait, but doesn't that only enable dial-up networking...not OBEX?

MBHockey · 03-28-2006, 04:42 PM

I did some digging, and it seems the seem edit originally posted in the beginning of this thread is not enough to enable both obex and isync syncing over Bluetooth, in fact, all of those 2742 seem edits break iSync compatibility, and I've only come across one solution to this point.

This is what i just did and have both working over Bluetooth:

1) Removed any trace of my e815 on my Mac. Removed it from bluetooth preferences and iSync device list.

2) Restored phone to stock configuration (with my backup seem) and by disabling dial-up networking (##DIALUP)

3) Downloaded and applied v2 of the seem edit atop this page:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...53#post5427653
named: 2742_0001_MOT-E815_v2.seem

4) Restarted my phone

5) Downloaded and applied v2 of the seem on this page: http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...8&page=7&pp=14
named: 2742_0001_obex_isync_v2.zip
This file is linked in the last post of linked page

6) Restarted my phone again

7) Paired my phone with my Mac

8) Done...my phone now works with Bluetooth File Exchange sending files back and forth and also syncs wirelessly with iSync

Reminder: This could seriously hose your phone. Make backups before you do any seem editing. Follow the directions on the linked pages closely, as they have more information than is listed here

Take that Verizon Wireless!

*Please note: A side effect of these two seem edits is they will make it so your No.1 Speed Dial number will call your voicemail instead of whoever you've programmed it to be. I prefer this behavior over dialing *86, and just moved my No.1 Speed dial to No.2 speed dial

All editing was done with the software mentioned in the first post of this thread. All three pieces of those software are necessary, and even though Gerry lists XP SP2 as a requirement, i did all my modifications on a PC running XP SP1 (although, when installing PST, it included 2-3 patches for XP before finishing up -- i'm assuming those are the only ones PST actually needs from SP2 to work)

CAlvarez · 03-28-2006, 07:54 PM

Quote:


	Wait, but doesn't that only enable dial-up networking...not OBEX?

Probably, but those are exactly the steps I took and it worked.

MBHockey · 03-28-2006, 08:01 PM

So you're transferring files over bluetooth and using iSync over bluetooth with having done no seem edits?

CAlvarez · 03-28-2006, 08:44 PM

I used iSync, I don't recall whether I tried file transfers. I used iSync and dialup after following exactly the steps I noted above.

MBHockey · 03-29-2006, 01:20 PM

That was never an issue. iSync should work out of the box (on Tiger, that is), and dial-up networking works after simply entering ##DIALUP on the keypad.

The problem here was that OBEX over bluetooth comes disabled on the e815 by default, even though Verizon advertises it all over the place for this phone.

To get OBEX over bluetooth working, which is what Gerry had put together in his initial post, had worked, except a not-so-desired side effect of his seem edit is that it broke the out-of-the-box iSync compatibility.

The two seem edits i came across, when used together, have the effect of enabling OBEX over Bluetooth while retaining compatibility with iSync (also, over BT).

For me, i just wanted to get everything out of the phone that Verizon promised in the first place, but crippled.

Gumbyboy15 · 05-12-2006, 12:01 PM

May I ask for a summary? If one wants ALL of the features ot work on the e815 and the Mac, i.e. OBEX file transfer, dial-up, bluetooth i-Sync, I need to run BOTH seem edits? I followed the first, just not sure about the second one that was mentioned.

Nothing available running on the mac other than Virtual PC or similar apps?

Thanks!

Gumbyboy15 · 05-12-2006, 12:32 PM

I liked the iSync capability with iCal and Address Book right out of the box, but the lack of being able to connect and use my ringtones and pictures is something I didn't realize would be such a pain. I guess that's more an issue with Verizon than the mac or motorola.

afranke · 07-21-2006, 09:41 AM

The initial post says to used cable part number SKN6311A. I have SKN6311B and can't get it to work, could that be the problem?

MBHockey · 07-21-2006, 11:30 AM

afranke, maybe...but you should google around a bit more. I'm certainly not an expert at this stuff.

Gumbyboy, yes, you need to do both seem edits on top of one another.

afranke · 07-24-2006, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBHockey


	afranke, maybe...but you should google around a bit more. I'm certainly not an expert at this stuff.

I've looked around and haven't found anything. The instructions on this page say you might have a problem with anything but the A part number. Any idea what the difference between A and B is? I can't see anything.

plbogart · 08-01-2006, 01:25 AM

Don't know if this will help but without Bluetooth on my old G4 running 10.4.7, I tried Syncing my hacked E815 (enabled multimedia to make it an E815M) and with iSync (and a Motorola USB cable), it would recognize it but error out telling me to check the cable, etc... Just for the heck of it I dialed ##DIALUP and DISABLED DIALUP. I then restarted iSync and reconnected the phone. Worked like a charm. I only synced my Address Book as I really don't have anything else I need but at least it worked. Hope this helps someone.

01-08-2006, 10:28 PM	#21
shaznyc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1	Were you able to transfer files (audio,pix) Mac to phone. That great CALvarez, and were you able to transfer files (audio,pix) Mac to phone. I am able to isync with Address Book & iCal, even the dial up works through Bluetooth to Mac. But I still can not send files. I have been using a TransFlach, but will like to use Bluetooth to transfer files, since I paid for the thing. Has anyone found a link for the Motorola Phone Setting Tool yet. I have been looking on my end, but luck.

01-09-2006, 12:24 AM	#22
CAlvarez Hall of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4,975	Verizon cripples the OBEX profile, so you can't transfer files without paying for their file transfer services. That's only one of many anti-consumer things that Verizon is known for. __________________ -- Carlos Alvarez, Phoenix, AZ "MacBook Nano" (Lenovo S10) Atom 1.6/2GB/160GB Mac OS X 10.5.6 Gigabyte Quad Core 2.83GHz Hackintosh 4GB/500GB Mac OS X 10.6 MacBook Air 1.8/2GB/64GB SSD http://www.televolve.com

01-16-2006, 10:43 PM	#24
tarlint Prospect Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2	after hack, isync doesn't work with bluetooth Hi everyone, I'm not a newbie, in fact, I've hacked my phone multiple times...but I have one stinkin' problem. I cannot isync now that I've hacked my phone. I cannot isync over bluetooth. I've went back to the original seem. I've altered the original seem. I really need to be able to sync the contacts and adresses. It worked before the hack, now after, with obex and everything enabled, it tells me that the device cannot be found. Anyone help? or can anyone email me thier seem that isyncs correctly so I can try? Thanks.

02-14-2006, 10:25 AM	#26
dls555 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1	iSync failure following seem edit i've got the same problem. While OBEX now works after the E815 seem edit, I cannot get iSync to synch calendar and contacts. iSync recognizes the phone OK, but I get an error dialog when the synch fails (can't attach dialog image here--new forum member??). I'm using iSync 2.1.1 (OSX 10.4.4) and have removed the old, pre-seem-edit device in iSync and re-paired the phone. In fact, I've repeated removed the phone in iSync and re-paired, to no avail.

03-28-2006, 10:54 AM	#27
MBHockey MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,211	Hi all, I finally got obex working (Thanks Gerry!), but also experience the problem with iSync failing to recognize the phone then. Has anyone come up with a solution? What i've tried is what was suggested earlier -- removing and re-pairing the device with my computer. Last edited by MBHockey; 03-28-2006 at 10:59 AM.

01-09-2006, 12:54 AM	#23
MBHockey MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,211	I bought a cable off ebay to hook up to my PC so i could do a seem hack on my phone to enable OBEX. However, i couldn't, after about 4 hours, get the PC to recognize the phone and install it correctly. Grrr Windows...

03-28-2006, 11:23 AM	#28
CAlvarez Hall of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4,975	Sorry, I don't have any good troubleshooting tips. I can tell you I've tried a couple of E815s and they worked fine from the start. So maybe deleting the pairing then doing a full factory reset on the phone is something to try? Here's the way I've done it with three phones, all worked. Brand new phone, give it a full charge. Turn on and dial ##dialup. Start a pairing from the PowerBook, answer yes to options to use it for internet access and to sync. Run a sync. Simple as that. Maybe the hack given at the beginning of this thread makes it worse. I've done this a couple of other times at the Verizon store to show them how it is done (the manager was very interested since he has to turn away Mac users for the data cards, since they don't officially support Macs). __________________ -- Carlos Alvarez, Phoenix, AZ "MacBook Nano" (Lenovo S10) Atom 1.6/2GB/160GB Mac OS X 10.5.6 Gigabyte Quad Core 2.83GHz Hackintosh 4GB/500GB Mac OS X 10.6 MacBook Air 1.8/2GB/64GB SSD http://www.televolve.com

03-28-2006, 12:12 PM	#29
MBHockey MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,211	Wait, but doesn't that only enable dial-up networking...not OBEX?

03-28-2006, 04:42 PM	#30
MBHockey MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,211	Success! I did some digging, and it seems the seem edit originally posted in the beginning of this thread is not enough to enable both obex and isync syncing over Bluetooth, in fact, all of those 2742 seem edits break iSync compatibility, and I've only come across one solution to this point. This is what i just did and have both working over Bluetooth: 1) Removed any trace of my e815 on my Mac. Removed it from bluetooth preferences and iSync device list. 2) Restored phone to stock configuration (with my backup seem) and by disabling dial-up networking (##DIALUP) 3) Downloaded and applied v2 of the seem edit atop this page: http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...53#post5427653 named: 2742_0001_MOT-E815_v2.seem 4) Restarted my phone 5) Downloaded and applied v2 of the seem on this page: http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...8&page=7&pp=14 named: 2742_0001_obex_isync_v2.zip This file is linked in the last post of linked page 6) Restarted my phone again 7) Paired my phone with my Mac 8) Done...my phone now works with Bluetooth File Exchange sending files back and forth and also syncs wirelessly with iSync Reminder: This could seriously hose your phone. Make backups before you do any seem editing. Follow the directions on the linked pages closely, as they have more information than is listed here Take that Verizon Wireless! Please note: A side effect of these two seem edits is they will make it so your No.1 Speed Dial number will call your voicemail instead of whoever you've programmed it to be. I prefer this behavior over dialing 86, and just moved my No.1 Speed dial to No.2 speed dial All editing was done with the software mentioned in the first post of this thread. All three pieces of those software are necessary, and even though Gerry lists XP SP2 as a requirement, i did all my modifications on a PC running XP SP1 (although, when installing PST, it included 2-3 patches for XP before finishing up -- i'm assuming those are the only ones PST actually needs from SP2 to work) Last edited by MBHockey; 03-28-2006 at 05:33 PM.

03-28-2006, 08:01 PM	#32
MBHockey MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,211	So you're transferring files over bluetooth and using iSync over bluetooth with having done no seem edits?

03-28-2006, 08:44 PM	#33
CAlvarez Hall of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4,975	I used iSync, I don't recall whether I tried file transfers. I used iSync and dialup after following exactly the steps I noted above. __________________ -- Carlos Alvarez, Phoenix, AZ "MacBook Nano" (Lenovo S10) Atom 1.6/2GB/160GB Mac OS X 10.5.6 Gigabyte Quad Core 2.83GHz Hackintosh 4GB/500GB Mac OS X 10.6 MacBook Air 1.8/2GB/64GB SSD http://www.televolve.com

03-29-2006, 01:20 PM	#34
MBHockey MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,211	That was never an issue. iSync should work out of the box (on Tiger, that is), and dial-up networking works after simply entering ##DIALUP on the keypad. The problem here was that OBEX over bluetooth comes disabled on the e815 by default, even though Verizon advertises it all over the place for this phone. To get OBEX over bluetooth working, which is what Gerry had put together in his initial post, had worked, except a not-so-desired side effect of his seem edit is that it broke the out-of-the-box iSync compatibility. The two seem edits i came across, when used together, have the effect of enabling OBEX over Bluetooth while retaining compatibility with iSync (also, over BT). For me, i just wanted to get everything out of the phone that Verizon promised in the first place, but crippled. Last edited by MBHockey; 03-29-2006 at 01:23 PM.

05-12-2006, 12:01 PM	#35
Gumbyboy15 Prospect Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2	May I ask for a summary? If one wants ALL of the features ot work on the e815 and the Mac, i.e. OBEX file transfer, dial-up, bluetooth i-Sync, I need to run BOTH seem edits? I followed the first, just not sure about the second one that was mentioned. Nothing available running on the mac other than Virtual PC or similar apps? Thanks!

05-12-2006, 12:32 PM	#36
Gumbyboy15 Prospect Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2	I liked the iSync capability with iCal and Address Book right out of the box, but the lack of being able to connect and use my ringtones and pictures is something I didn't realize would be such a pain. I guess that's more an issue with Verizon than the mac or motorola.

07-21-2006, 09:41 AM	#37
afranke Prospect Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2	The initial post says to used cable part number SKN6311A. I have SKN6311B and can't get it to work, could that be the problem?

07-21-2006, 11:30 AM	#38
MBHockey MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,211	afranke, maybe...but you should google around a bit more. I'm certainly not an expert at this stuff. Gumbyboy, yes, you need to do both seem edits on top of one another.

08-01-2006, 01:25 AM	#40
plbogart Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1	Don't know if this will help but without Bluetooth on my old G4 running 10.4.7, I tried Syncing my hacked E815 (enabled multimedia to make it an E815M) and with iSync (and a Motorola USB cable), it would recognize it but error out telling me to check the cable, etc... Just for the heck of it I dialed ##DIALUP and DISABLED DIALUP. I then restarted iSync and reconnected the phone. Worked like a charm. I only synced my Address Book as I really don't have anything else I need but at least it worked. Hope this helps someone.