Motorola E815 iSync USB and Bluetooth Support - Page 2

MBHockey · 07-13-2005, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPYCGerry


	Cingular does NOT disable Obex, Verizon does. I'd love to hear from a Californis Verizon customer who has the Bluetooth iSync working.

What is OBEX?

I have read that Verizon has crippled this phone's bluetooth capabilities, but i didn't really understand how. What is crippled about it?

Also, iSync 2.1 has support for this, right? So you don't have to get a hack to make it work anymore right?

CPYCGerry · 07-13-2005, 01:34 PM

First, finding the PST_7.1.1 is not so easy. I found a site that uses BitTorrent. But the target site is down. Then I found another place. Tried to load it on my PC running WindowsXP SP2 and the PST installer says that it can not install on SP2. This is after spending $30 on the Motorola Mobile Phone Tool. I may just be satidfied with being able to sync.

CPYCGerry · 07-13-2005, 02:10 PM

Obex is the Object Exchange protocol that is used by Bluetooth enabled devices There is a file "seem" on the phone that determines what features of the Obex protocol are enabled/disabled. Motorola has disabled them all

iSync 2.1 has support for both the USB cable and Bluetooth for synching. But until you hack the Verizon phone to enable Obex, you will only be able to sync with the USB cable.

AND you can not move photos or use DUN until it is hacked. DUN allows you to connect to the phone via Bluetooth from your CPU (read laptop) and get Internet connectivity anywhere there is a cellphone signal. If you happen to be in an EvDo area, ynou can get close to T1 rates.

MBHockey · 07-13-2005, 03:05 PM

Ah...thanks for that Gerry.

How hard is it to "hack the phone" to enable OBEX...i'd like to do wireless syncing via bluetooth with it.

Does the phone come with a cable that hooks up to my computer, and i have to upload some kind of hacked version of a file to it or something?

CPYCGerry · 07-13-2005, 05:10 PM

I have Bluetooth Synching working with iSync 2.1.

I discovered that the link above to howardforums was close. The version of the Motorola tool to search for is PST_7.2.3. Once I got that, it worked with WindowsXP SP2.
NOTES:
1) Remember to remove your USB device before trying to add the modified phone. The bad side is that you can NOT sync with both the USB or Bluetooth. You have to choose one or the other.

2) I haven't got the multimedia file transfer working yet. Maybe tomorrow.

CPYCGerry · 07-13-2005, 09:54 PM

I now have EVERYTHING working. Tomorrow I'll document the whole process in a new thread.

MBHockey · 07-13-2005, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPYCGerry


	...Tomorrow I'll document the whole process in a new thread.

Amazing. Definitely bookmarking that.

Can't wait for my e815!!

side note: anyone know any free dial up services?

madhude · 07-14-2005, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPYCGerry


	Cingular does NOT disable Obex, Verizon does. I'd love to hear from a Californis Verizon customer who has the Bluetooth iSync working.

I am in California, and just got my e815 via FedEx yesterday. After applying both the iSync 2.1 and 10.4.2 updates on my G5 (with built-in bluetooth), iSync 2.1 recognized it and synced the address book perfectly over bluetooth. So at least this one phone does not have trouble with iSync in California - and I have trouble believing that Verizon would cripple CA phones any more than elsewhere. I ordered it from the Verizon website, and the phone was shipped from Fort Worth, TX, for what that's worth.

I haven't tried anything else yet, nor do I have a USB cable to try enabling OBEX.

Skybolt · 07-15-2005, 10:21 AM

To respond to an earlier post -- I got my phone in TN, shipped, I think from TX. I have been able to surf the internet on my PB with the e815, and after the iSync update, I was able to sync my calendar without hitch via bluetooth. I have never tried with the data cable, just bluetooth. I did not want to sync my contacts, just my calendar, and it is working perfectly. Just got a notification of an appointment moments ago, actually! Have not done the OBEX thing, just seems a bit over my head! Have tried to do the bluetooth file transfer from computer to phone, but was unsuccessful -- will have to work on that. Maybe that is why I should enable OBEX?

seidberg · 07-15-2005, 10:29 AM

Skybolt- how did you pair the devices. I can sync at home using the cable. At work I decided to play to see if I could do what you have done- I pair the phone with the computer using the bluetooth set up assistant (from Bluetooth menubar item: "Set up a Bluetooth Device.."). It asks for a device type- I choose "cellphone". It (my mac) pairs but claims that services are not available to sync or use the cellphone to connect to the internet. I am in NY an bought the phone locally.

MBHockey · 07-15-2005, 12:34 PM

So no hack is needed to get it to sync via bluetooth, and use dial-up internet access through the phone if you have 10.4.2 and the latest iSync?

CPYCGerry · 07-15-2005, 01:41 PM

You may have luck with iSync 2.1. From reading all the posts, it seems that buit-in bluetooth support seems to work. BUT to get "Bluetooth File Exchange" and DUN (Dial Up Networking) you have to do the hack.

seidberg · 07-15-2005, 01:51 PM

I am using 10.4.2 with isync 2.1 and builtin bluetooth. I am confused between the posts: some seem to suggest this should work, others suggest the hack is necessary.....

hondahirny · 07-15-2005, 04:22 PM

Just bought my e815 from the Verizon store at my local Circuit City in San Jose.
I couldn't get it to sync with isync 2.0, but it works fine with 2.1 I haven't tried transferring files, but i am able to download addresses, as well as use the phone to access the internet thru dialup. I haven't tried the dialup, but the phone sync rocks.

My only complaint is that instead of creating one person in my phone addressbook with 2 or 3 phone numbers, i get 2 of the same name, each with a different number. Since i use the voice command anyhow, i don't really care, but it makes the phonebook look pretty cluttered when i do flip thru it.

BTW, my phone is SW version 8720_01.17.03

Hope this helps some people out. It was because of this forum that i discovered hope existed for my new BT phone

Have a great weekend everyone...

Skybolt · 07-15-2005, 05:24 PM

Seidberg -- I paired the phone as you did, normally. Not sure what the internet and contact prompts were that were given at the time. When I go back to the setup, it says I can access the internet and calendar, but not contacts. In the start of this, I upgraded iSync, set preferences to only update my calendar and that works just fine.

I enabled DUN by typing into my phone ##DIALUP. Got a prompt that it was enabled, I then went to Internet Connect and set up the bluetooth therein to use on the internet. Works great!

Don't know why you are getting the error message that the device cannot be used. Have you tried un-pairing and re-pairing?

Cannot use Bluetooth file transfer, does not see the phone contents, so guess I need the seem edit for that, and I'm not secure enough in my "hacking" ability to try that! Wish there were someone in my town that could do it for me!

BTW I am using 10.4.2 now, though when I set this up I was still 10.4.1 and everything held -- I just tested it.

Good luck!

CPYCGerry · 07-16-2005, 10:25 AM

HondaHirny,
From what I am finding out...
1) IF you have a built-in Bluetooth Mac, you CAN sync the Verizon E815 with iSync 2.1. (2.0 was missing the phone's profile - I published a hack for that).
2) To get Bluetooth File Transfer and DUN (Dial Up Networking) you need to do the seem hack.

To get only one number per name
a) Go to Contacts
b) Press the Menu key
c) go up one selection to "Setup" - Select
d) Change "View" to "Primary Contacts".
Then you will get only one entry per name. You can go into each contact and select the primary number.

imageworx · 07-28-2005, 08:35 AM

I just received my E815 lastnight via Fedex, and activated the phone this morning. Using iSync 2.1, I was able to backup my #'s from my T720 prior to activating my E815.
I went into E815 tools and Bluetooth and setup it for temp On setting. Then on Mac Mini (10.4.2), I had Bluetooth find device (Mobile phone with #:#:#:#:#:#) and Bluetooth had me enter a 6 digit code on the phone.
Well, the phone (Thank you Verizon) is locked of features (all three selections from Mac are greyed out...can't sync Addresses, access internet...)

I have the Motorola cable (use your AC charger cord to power it when attached to Mac USB port) and Motorola Phone TOOLs (for PC). And I found (thank you for the URL) the PST_7.1.1 file (via eMule).

I'll let you know if I either am succesful getting OBEX going or screwing up my phone.

Anyway, Verizon is getting a letter from PUC (Public Utilities Commission) for selling a crippled device sold as a functional one (Their website is clear that its a bluetooth enabled phone. Not a Limited-bluetooth function phone).

Lawsuits...weeeee. Anyone know a great law firm?

CPYCGerry · 07-28-2005, 11:15 AM

Elsewhere in this discussion group is the FAQ on getting OBEX to work. Clicky..Clicky

Bat9998 · 07-28-2005, 04:02 PM

All i want to do is transfer MP3's to my E815 with my PC and USB cable. I'm completely new to this. I'm decent with computers but I've never hacked a phone before. I see that you guys have instructions how to do this on here already but I don't understand it. Where do you put this long code in? Somone enlighten me. Can somebody anybody please help me please? What do I need to buy? Where do I buy it? And how do I do this? My phone's just gonna suck if i don't figure this out. Hope to hear from someone soon, thanks guys.

-Zach

imageworx · 07-28-2005, 06:13 PM

Ahh...success!

-Yes, I hacked the e815 with PST7.1.1 and SD prog.
-Backed up the Seem file
-opened whatever I could (there is also a link at howards about nuclearelephant's site and getting free pix server connect and mod the web browser to your own choice for home page...ie Google or MacOsxHints

What I had a problem with (so stupido!) is that I didn't enable the Bluetooth prefs pane on the Mac side (allow file exchange...). So make sure, under the SystemPrefs/Bluetooth/Sharing tab, you enable the boxes (I also checked off Paired Security) Once I did that, I was able to add the E815 to iSync. And sync it did!

Cheers!

07-13-2005, 01:34 PM	#22
CPYCGerry Triple-A Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 81	Arggh! Latest attempt failed First, finding the PST_7.1.1 is not so easy. I found a site that uses BitTorrent. But the target site is down. Then I found another place. Tried to load it on my PC running WindowsXP SP2 and the PST installer says that it can not install on SP2. This is after spending $30 on the Motorola Mobile Phone Tool. I may just be satidfied with being able to sync.

07-13-2005, 05:10 PM	#25
CPYCGerry Triple-A Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 81	Whoo-Hoo! I have Bluetooth Synching working with iSync 2.1. I discovered that the link above to howardforums was close. The version of the Motorola tool to search for is PST_7.2.3. Once I got that, it worked with WindowsXP SP2. NOTES: 1) Remember to remove your USB device before trying to add the modified phone. The bad side is that you can NOT sync with both the USB or Bluetooth. You have to choose one or the other. 2) I haven't got the multimedia file transfer working yet. Maybe tomorrow.

07-15-2005, 10:21 AM	#29
Skybolt Triple-A Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 249	To respond to an earlier post -- I got my phone in TN, shipped, I think from TX. I have been able to surf the internet on my PB with the e815, and after the iSync update, I was able to sync my calendar without hitch via bluetooth. I have never tried with the data cable, just bluetooth. I did not want to sync my contacts, just my calendar, and it is working perfectly. Just got a notification of an appointment moments ago, actually! Have not done the OBEX thing, just seems a bit over my head! Have tried to do the bluetooth file transfer from computer to phone, but was unsuccessful -- will have to work on that. Maybe that is why I should enable OBEX? __________________ Mary

07-15-2005, 04:22 PM	#34
hondahirny Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1	CA VZW customer Just bought my e815 from the Verizon store at my local Circuit City in San Jose. I couldn't get it to sync with isync 2.0, but it works fine with 2.1 I haven't tried transferring files, but i am able to download addresses, as well as use the phone to access the internet thru dialup. I haven't tried the dialup, but the phone sync rocks. My only complaint is that instead of creating one person in my phone addressbook with 2 or 3 phone numbers, i get 2 of the same name, each with a different number. Since i use the voice command anyhow, i don't really care, but it makes the phonebook look pretty cluttered when i do flip thru it. BTW, my phone is SW version 8720_01.17.03 Hope this helps some people out. It was because of this forum that i discovered hope existed for my new BT phone Have a great weekend everyone...

07-15-2005, 05:24 PM	#35
Skybolt Triple-A Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 249	Seidberg -- I paired the phone as you did, normally. Not sure what the internet and contact prompts were that were given at the time. When I go back to the setup, it says I can access the internet and calendar, but not contacts. In the start of this, I upgraded iSync, set preferences to only update my calendar and that works just fine. I enabled DUN by typing into my phone ##DIALUP. Got a prompt that it was enabled, I then went to Internet Connect and set up the bluetooth therein to use on the internet. Works great! Don't know why you are getting the error message that the device cannot be used. Have you tried un-pairing and re-pairing? Cannot use Bluetooth file transfer, does not see the phone contents, so guess I need the seem edit for that, and I'm not secure enough in my "hacking" ability to try that! Wish there were someone in my town that could do it for me! BTW I am using 10.4.2 now, though when I set this up I was still 10.4.1 and everything held -- I just tested it. Good luck! __________________ Mary

07-13-2005, 02:10 PM	#23
CPYCGerry Triple-A Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 81	Obex is the Object Exchange protocol that is used by Bluetooth enabled devices There is a file "seem" on the phone that determines what features of the Obex protocol are enabled/disabled. Motorola has disabled them all iSync 2.1 has support for both the USB cable and Bluetooth for synching. But until you hack the Verizon phone to enable Obex, you will only be able to sync with the USB cable. AND you can not move photos or use DUN until it is hacked. DUN allows you to connect to the phone via Bluetooth from your CPU (read laptop) and get Internet connectivity anywhere there is a cellphone signal. If you happen to be in an EvDo area, ynou can get close to T1 rates.

07-13-2005, 03:05 PM	#24
MBHockey MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,211	Ah...thanks for that Gerry. How hard is it to "hack the phone" to enable OBEX...i'd like to do wireless syncing via bluetooth with it. Does the phone come with a cable that hooks up to my computer, and i have to upload some kind of hacked version of a file to it or something?

07-13-2005, 09:54 PM	#26
CPYCGerry Triple-A Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 81	I now have EVERYTHING working. Tomorrow I'll document the whole process in a new thread.

07-15-2005, 10:29 AM	#30
seidberg Prospect Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4	Skybolt- how did you pair the devices. I can sync at home using the cable. At work I decided to play to see if I could do what you have done- I pair the phone with the computer using the bluetooth set up assistant (from Bluetooth menubar item: "Set up a Bluetooth Device.."). It asks for a device type- I choose "cellphone". It (my mac) pairs but claims that services are not available to sync or use the cellphone to connect to the internet. I am in NY an bought the phone locally.

07-15-2005, 12:34 PM	#31
MBHockey MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 2,211	So no hack is needed to get it to sync via bluetooth, and use dial-up internet access through the phone if you have 10.4.2 and the latest iSync?

07-15-2005, 01:41 PM	#32
CPYCGerry Triple-A Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 81	You may have luck with iSync 2.1. From reading all the posts, it seems that buit-in bluetooth support seems to work. BUT to get "Bluetooth File Exchange" and DUN (Dial Up Networking) you have to do the hack.

07-15-2005, 01:51 PM	#33
seidberg Prospect Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4	I am using 10.4.2 with isync 2.1 and builtin bluetooth. I am confused between the posts: some seem to suggest this should work, others suggest the hack is necessary.....

07-16-2005, 10:25 AM	#36
CPYCGerry Triple-A Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 81	HondaHirny, From what I am finding out... 1) IF you have a built-in Bluetooth Mac, you CAN sync the Verizon E815 with iSync 2.1. (2.0 was missing the phone's profile - I published a hack for that). 2) To get Bluetooth File Transfer and DUN (Dial Up Networking) you need to do the seem hack. To get only one number per name a) Go to Contacts b) Press the Menu key c) go up one selection to "Setup" - Select d) Change "View" to "Primary Contacts". Then you will get only one entry per name. You can go into each contact and select the primary number.

07-28-2005, 08:35 AM	#37
imageworx Prospect Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 22	Verizon locks it in PA I just received my E815 lastnight via Fedex, and activated the phone this morning. Using iSync 2.1, I was able to backup my #'s from my T720 prior to activating my E815. I went into E815 tools and Bluetooth and setup it for temp On setting. Then on Mac Mini (10.4.2), I had Bluetooth find device (Mobile phone with #:#:#:#:#:#) and Bluetooth had me enter a 6 digit code on the phone. Well, the phone (Thank you Verizon) is locked of features (all three selections from Mac are greyed out...can't sync Addresses, access internet...) I have the Motorola cable (use your AC charger cord to power it when attached to Mac USB port) and Motorola Phone TOOLs (for PC). And I found (thank you for the URL) the PST_7.1.1 file (via eMule). I'll let you know if I either am succesful getting OBEX going or screwing up my phone. Anyway, Verizon is getting a letter from PUC (Public Utilities Commission) for selling a crippled device sold as a functional one (Their website is clear that its a bluetooth enabled phone. Not a Limited-bluetooth function phone). Lawsuits...weeeee. Anyone know a great law firm?

07-28-2005, 11:15 AM	#38
CPYCGerry Triple-A Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 81	Check out this Thread Elsewhere in this discussion group is the FAQ on getting OBEX to work. Clicky..Clicky

07-28-2005, 04:02 PM	#39
Bat9998 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1	How do I Transfer Music from PC using USB??? All i want to do is transfer MP3's to my E815 with my PC and USB cable. I'm completely new to this. I'm decent with computers but I've never hacked a phone before. I see that you guys have instructions how to do this on here already but I don't understand it. Where do you put this long code in? Somone enlighten me. Can somebody anybody please help me please? What do I need to buy? Where do I buy it? And how do I do this? My phone's just gonna suck if i don't figure this out. Hope to hear from someone soon, thanks guys. -Zach

07-28-2005, 06:13 PM	#40
imageworx Prospect Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 22	Ahh...success! -Yes, I hacked the e815 with PST7.1.1 and SD prog. -Backed up the Seem file -opened whatever I could (there is also a link at howards about nuclearelephant's site and getting free pix server connect and mod the web browser to your own choice for home page...ie Google or MacOsxHints What I had a problem with (so stupido!) is that I didn't enable the Bluetooth prefs pane on the Mac side (allow file exchange...). So make sure, under the SystemPrefs/Bluetooth/Sharing tab, you enable the boxes (I also checked off Paired Security) Once I did that, I was able to add the E815 to iSync. And sync it did! Cheers!