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Old 03-13-2005, 09:30 PM   #1
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zonealarm, for mac?

i've been a believer in internet security apps like zonealarm (on the pc side) where i can control what apps are getting access into my pc and what apps are making connections to the outside world. are there such apps for mac? please recommend and point me to some reviews.. i've not been able to find info online.

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Old 03-13-2005, 09:52 PM   #2
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Old 03-13-2005, 10:14 PM   #3
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i've not been able to find info online.

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Old 03-14-2005, 02:47 AM   #4
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wow, nice site. thanks for the tip!

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Old 03-14-2005, 10:29 AM   #5
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It should also be noted that OS X comes with an excellent firewall built in -- ipfw. It takes a bit to get used to it, but I think it's far better than ZoneAlarm. To start learning about it, open up a Terminal window and enter man ipfw

Of course I should add the disclaimer that I was using the free version of ZoneAlarm, and I kept finding things that it couldn't do. I don't know if the same restrictions apply for the paid version.
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Old 03-14-2005, 03:18 PM   #6
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about Zone Alarm

OS X does have a nice firewall -- and one might argue it is "better" than ZoneAlarm -- but one feature that ZoneAlarm has that OS X's firewall doesn't have, is the ability to apprehend outgoing data.

Sure, Little Snitch will do this -- but Little Snitch costs money, where-as the lite version of ZoneAlarm is free.

Anyway, I liked ZoneAlarm on the PC side because of this feature.

Oh well, no way in hell I'd willingly go back to a PC

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Old 03-14-2005, 10:42 PM   #7
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Er...

ipfw can block outgoing requests:
add rule_number deny tcp from any to any port_number out

If you're overzealous it's quite simple to block your own internet access.
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Old 03-15-2005, 12:00 AM   #8
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Malware authors first to the wall when the revolution came...

The legislator, instead of feeding the copyright-mafia every unreasonable law they fancy to ask for,
would be well advised to prohibit the practice of sending data from the users machine without asking for permission first and stating everything to be transmitted in cleartext.

The unfortunate trend of applications on the Mac platform trying to be as evil as their spyware counterparts on that other OS that shall remain unnamed, is asking for more fine-grained control of what untrusted applications may and may not do on my machine.

Policing the net-access for applications is already there with apps such as FirewalkX and Little Snitch, in the long run, capability-based permissions look like the way to go.

Apple would be well advised to do more than just point fingers at how bad their competitor is doing in that area.
Blunders like the Safari/Help.app-bug show that there is no such thing as good Security-QA at Apple for now.
While they have become a lot better in picking up advisories and bug-fixes for the Darwin part, their own private code seems to be a lot less audited.
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