remote backup (vnc?)

dazchicken · 03-08-2005, 03:04 PM

I'm looking for a straight forward way to backup files from a firewire hardrive in the office to a firewire hardrive at home. I've managed to create a vnc connection (using OSXvnc and Chicken of the VNC) and can control the desktop remotely although I need a way to mount the drive and use backup software to copy the files.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

yellow · 03-08-2005, 03:18 PM

SFTP, AFP, or FTP are all possible ways to do so..

You don't need VNC for any of these..

acme.mail.order · 03-08-2005, 03:24 PM

If you can create a VNC connection then you can also create an Apple File Sharing connection. Log into the work computer using an admin account, mount the external drive, and copy away.

Hope you either a) don't have much to copy or b) have a fast connection. Remember that most $20/month internet connections have vastly different up- and download speeds

yellow · 03-08-2005, 03:57 PM

Ultimately the fastest thing to do would be to carry your FW drive from home to work and hook it up to your computer/other FW drive and copy locally.

dazchicken · 03-08-2005, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acme.mail.order


	If you can create a VNC connection then you can also create an Apple File Sharing connection. Log into the work computer using an admin account, mount the external drive, and copy away. Hope you either a) don't have much to copy or b) have a fast connection. Remember that most $20/month internet connections have vastly different up- and download speeds

Thanks, how do I create an Apple File Sharing connection and connect?

dazchicken · 03-08-2005, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellow


	Ultimately the fastest thing to do would be to carry your FW drive from home to work and hook it up to your computer/other FW drive and copy locally.

True, although this isn't always possible, and I need to make sure the data is copied every day. I'd like to leave this copying overnight.

acme.mail.order · 03-08-2005, 07:27 PM

Quote:


	how do I create an Apple File Sharing connection and connect?

1. Turn on Personal File Sharing.
2. Finder -> Go -> Connect to Server...
3. Enter the IP address of the work computer (just like VNC)
4. Login with your user name and password.
5. Mount the drive. (** you cannot mount volumes unless you log in with an Administrator account. If you are the sole user of your work computer then you are an Administrator)
6. Copy in the usual manner.

Anything you do through the terminal will need some extra attention to the resource forks. The Finder route is drag-and-drop.

dazchicken · 03-09-2005, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acme.mail.order


	1. Turn on Personal File Sharing. 2. Finder -> Go -> Connect to Server... 3. Enter the IP address of the work computer (just like VNC) 4. Login with your user name and password. 5. Mount the drive. (** you cannot mount volumes unless you log in with an Administrator account. If you are the sole user of your work computer then you are an Administrator) 6. Copy in the usual manner. Anything you do through the terminal will need some extra attention to the resource forks. The Finder route is drag-and-drop.

Thanks for your help. I tried this way although it won't connect.
Is this because there is no Display/Port information (5900)?
If so how do I enter this?

yellow · 03-09-2005, 07:10 AM

Turn on "Personal Filesharing" on the Work Mac (Sharing PrefPane).

This will enable port 548, which is used for AFP.

Then connect to it from your home Mac..

dazchicken · 03-09-2005, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellow


	Turn on "Personal Filesharing" on the Work Mac (Sharing PrefPane). This will enable port 548, which is used for AFP. Then connect to it from your home Mac..

Personal File sharing is already on.
You say it will enable port 548? Is this the same port information as I've set up for VNC which is currently 5900? If so I had to configure this through my router and OSXvcn.

yellow · 03-09-2005, 10:33 AM

If you are using 5900 as the port for VNC, then it's only to be used for VNC. You should not reconfigured OSXvnc for 548, as that port should only be used for Apple File Sharing. As you noted, you should set up port forwarding on the work router for 548 to point at your work Mac.

Let's see if I can draw a basic network map..

Home Mac filesharing request -> port 548 on your work router -> should be forwarded to 548 on your work Mac.

dazchicken · 03-10-2005, 03:14 AM

Thanks, it's still not connecting though, can you see were I'm going wrong?

Work Mac: Personal Filesharing ON
Rounter: Port forwarding 548 to 10.0.0.10 (work Mac)
Outside IP used to connect: 82.152... (this connected with vnc)

Home Mac: Go>Connect to Server>82.152...(as above)

yellow · 03-10-2005, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazchicken


	Thanks, it's still not connecting though, can you see were I'm going wrong? Work Mac: Personal Filesharing ON Rounter: Port forwarding 548 to 10.0.0.10 (work Mac) Outside IP used to connect: 82.152... (this connected with vnc) Home Mac: Go>Connect to Server>82.152...(as above)

Just to make sure.. the router is at your work, right?
Is there a local firewall running on your work mac? Did you remember to poke a hole in it's firewall? Maybe try and put:

afp://82.152..

To force it to use afp?

Otherwise, everything looks good to me. You might have to use the Network Utility to scan the router and see what's actually open for ports.

dazchicken · 03-10-2005, 08:17 AM

Hi, the Router is at work (the mac at home is also behind a router but just for internet connection), it's the work mac I'm trying to connect to.

I've just tried afp:// before the IP address, but no joy.

A port scan of the router reads;
Port Scan has started ...

Port Scanning host: 10.0.0.2

Open Port: 21 ftp
Open Port: 80 http
Port Scan has completed ...

03-08-2005, 03:04 PM	#1
dazchicken Prospect Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7	remote backup (vnc?) I'm looking for a straight forward way to backup files from a firewire hardrive in the office to a firewire hardrive at home. I've managed to create a vnc connection (using OSXvnc and Chicken of the VNC) and can control the desktop remotely although I need a way to mount the drive and use backup software to copy the files. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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03-08-2005, 03:18 PM	#2
yellow Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,677	SFTP, AFP, or FTP are all possible ways to do so.. You don't need VNC for any of these..

03-08-2005, 03:24 PM	#3
acme.mail.order League Commissioner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 6,057	If you can create a VNC connection then you can also create an Apple File Sharing connection. Log into the work computer using an admin account, mount the external drive, and copy away. Hope you either a) don't have much to copy or b) have a fast connection. Remember that most $20/month internet connections have vastly different up- and download speeds

03-08-2005, 03:57 PM	#4
yellow Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,677	Ultimately the fastest thing to do would be to carry your FW drive from home to work and hook it up to your computer/other FW drive and copy locally.

03-09-2005, 07:10 AM	#9
yellow Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,677	Turn on "Personal Filesharing" on the Work Mac (Sharing PrefPane). This will enable port 548, which is used for AFP. Then connect to it from your home Mac..

03-09-2005, 10:33 AM	#11
yellow Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,677	If you are using 5900 as the port for VNC, then it's only to be used for VNC. You should not reconfigured OSXvnc for 548, as that port should only be used for Apple File Sharing. As you noted, you should set up port forwarding on the work router for 548 to point at your work Mac. Let's see if I can draw a basic network map.. Home Mac filesharing request -> port 548 on your work router -> should be forwarded to 548 on your work Mac.

03-10-2005, 03:14 AM	#12
dazchicken Prospect Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7	Thanks, it's still not connecting though, can you see were I'm going wrong? Work Mac: Personal Filesharing ON Rounter: Port forwarding 548 to 10.0.0.10 (work Mac) Outside IP used to connect: 82.152... (this connected with vnc) Home Mac: Go>Connect to Server>82.152...(as above)

03-10-2005, 08:17 AM	#14
dazchicken Prospect Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7	Hi, the Router is at work (the mac at home is also behind a router but just for internet connection), it's the work mac I'm trying to connect to. I've just tried afp:// before the IP address, but no joy. A port scan of the router reads; Port Scan has started ... Port Scanning host: 10.0.0.2 Open Port: 21 ftp Open Port: 80 http Port Scan has completed ...