Pssst! The best MacOS X hint ever!

[daniel3625]

will it work on pc?

[Macaholic G5]

You bet your boot disk! It will run on MacOS X, Windows, and Linux flavors! Check out the team forums for helpful installation software and notes for the best settings. The clients and cores must, however, be downloaded directly from Stanford. Hope to see you around the forums and stats pages! Folding is as folding does!

[MBHockey]

Quote: Originally Posted by Macaholic G5 You bet your boot disk!

hahahah

[daniel3625]

Started folding today

Date of last work unit2005-01-21 07:35:40
Total score69073
Overall rank (if points are combined)4257 of 417222
Active processors (within 50 days)12
Active processors (within 7 days)8

[Macaholic G5]

Sweet! Ebert and Roeper give that two thumbs way up! Thanks for joining the project! Fold if ya got 'em!

[jeffo]

well i started my own team just because i wanted to keep track of which of my computers was doing how much work and that seemed the easiest way. no real reason why i want to keep track of that other then curiousity, but i have completed 2 WU so far and here is my team stats. (I have three computers working on it, but only one has completed any WUs so far.)

Ozzieburn_FAH_on_X

Date of last work unit
2005-01-22 16:16:49

Active CPUs within 50 days
1

Team Id
41990

Grand Score
281 (certificate)

Work Unit Count
2 (certificate)

Team Ranking (incl. aggregate)
10221 of 35863

Home Page
http://www.ozzieburn.com/fah/

[Las_Vegas]

As a member of any group, you can check your personal score at any time. The groups tend to promote a team effort as well as some healthy competition.

[Macaholic G5]

Whatever it takes to get you going, just do it! Those of you wanting to learn more about the future of Folding@home and hear it from Dr. Vijay Pande himself, please check out the exclusive interview conducted by Noah Johnson. Thanks to all of you that have taken the time and effort to join the project. Currently Folding@home has harnessed 180,000+ CPUs donating cycles! Outstanding! More is a good thing!

Where's your critical eye, gents? If you do this you'll be providing free processing power to Stanford's research operation. What do universities do with important results of research? They SELL it to the pharmaceutical industry! So they make money out of YOUR cpu cycles! And what does the pharmaceutical industry do with those research results? They make HUGE profits! On YOUR investment!
Naaah, the distributed computing principle is extremely interesting, but I'm definitely not going to finance Universities OR shareholders for free!

[MBHockey]

Yes, but it isn't costing you anything to do it, and in its most fundamental sense it is helping people. Try not being so cynical!

[vancenase]

unless dr. pande has an agreement or collaboration with a company, the results are not directly given to those in industry. with that said, if he is working from a government grant and publishes his work in scientific journals (which he does), anyone, and i assume anyone can be industry, can use that information, as it is now in the public domain so to speak.

your (and my) tax dollars paid for his research (if the project is funded by the government)

and it is, the NIH and NSF: http://folding.stanford.edu/about.html

i didn't see any mention of pharma's ... but i could have overlooked something on the site.

generally, that only applies to published research ... so things that are ongoing, such as the computations currently clicking away on your computers at this moment, have not been published, so the information is not freely available (at the moment).

... i just wish i there was a distributed computing project for people to help me finish my research!

[susato]

Rokcet Scientist writes

Quote: What do universities do with important results of research? They SELL it to the pharmaceutical industry! So they make money out of YOUR cpu cycles! And what does the pharmaceutical industry do with those research results? They make HUGE profits! On YOUR investment!

That is SO not true! Stanford's Folding@Home results are being published in peer reviewed scientific journals - meaning first that other scientists are looking carefully at the results to make sure they are valid, and second that the results are available for anyone to read and use.

The first 10-12 papers from the project (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandeg...ng/papers.html) are mostly about the Folding@Home method itself, demonstrating its validity. More recent papers explore the interactions of water with model proteins (dissolved in water) to determine the role that water plays in folding. One very recent paper examines the way in which two protein chains come together inside the body to create an active tumor suppressor complex. These papers have long term relevance to development of treatments (and preventive measures) for protein folding related disease states, but have minimal financial value to Big Pharma. If the F@H project was testing the interactions of proteins with specific "drug candidates" (as the Find-a-Drug distributed computing project attempts to do) and looking for patents, then you might have a point - but that is NOT what F@H is doing.

The F@H project is long term research on the rates and mechanisms of protein folding and misfolding. The Pande group, and many of us participating "folders", believe this research to be highly relevant to development of effective treatments and preventive measures for AIDS, cancer, and Alzheimers. Pande and the Folding project are laying the foundations for a better understanding of protein folding. Their results will be equally useful to the pharmaceutical industry AND to practitioners studying alternative (e.g. herbal, dietary) treatments such as turmeric for Alzheimer's. AND the research is likely to bear fruit in many other areas - diagnostics, implants, anti-aging measures, wound healing, prevention of autoimmune disease, design of nanomaterials and protein catalysts for industrial chemical reactions, the list goes on and on.

This project is strong independent basic research, funded by scientific agencies of the US government (National Science Foundation, National Institutes of Health) because of its intrinsic merit and its potential to move scientific knowledge forward. I suggest that you take a look at the project's website (http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/) before making groundless and cynical accusations.

Folding@Home is a fine project. I consider myself privileged to participate in it and to introduce it to other computer owners. Come up with a valid criticism of the project and I'll be glad to debate with you about it - but please, spare us the tired old tape-loop of anti-pharma polemics. Not only is it a lot more complicated than you think it is, it simply doesn't apply here.

[vancenase]

nicely said, susato!

[mkoreiwo]

Now that I've got both cpu's crunching proteins, the only thing I would like is the ability to save an image of the final product! It would be like an art gallery of the work done. But since they are sent back when complete, we have no way to see what we have done...

[sawdust123]

well i just started folding. I think? where do you get that info about points and stuff? I followed the directions so hopefully i did everything correctly

thank you

[cwtnospam]

http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandeg...ing/stats.html

[mkoreiwo]

Here is another stats link....

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=

You can see a lot more here...

Are you using Increase? the Gui client S/W comes with FPD, which allows you to look at your work in progress...

[cpragman]

I've been folding for months (thanks to this thread originally raising my awareness!). I've been using the command line version, and managing it thru InCrease. I had InCrease set the folding to start at boot time (it adds an "@reboot..." command to my cron file). Sweet.

My system was originally 10.2.8, then 10.3.9, and most recently 10.4.4. I've always done an "Upgrade" when installing a new OS version. Turns out this is important, since under 10.4, cron is deprecated in favor of launchd. If you've upgraded from 10.2 or 10.3, cron is kept around for backward compatibility. If you do an Erase & Install or an Archive & Install though, cron support may be dropped, and the command line folding is not activated by cron at bootup anymore.

The other day, I had to do an Archive & Install, and after which realized that my cron tasks weren't running anymore. After doing some reading on launchd, I was able to develop the equivalent launchd scripts to automatically start folding at boot time.

The details of what I did are over at the TeamMacOSX website


...In this thread.

[MarkRHolbrook]

Used to fold back on PCs... But I joined up. Who knows how long it will be before I post a unit.

[Jay Carr]

I remembered this post from forever ago and decided that it needed to sit atop the thread list again. I don't know how many of you know about this... Just read the first post and go download the program, okay?

Edit- So I've been running the software on my new MBP, and I'm noticing that it only takes 100% of 1 processor total. Thus, you can still do quite a few tasks while running the program . Cruising the internet and listening to music is still very functional. I wonder if the new UB version will allow for some controls for that sort of thing. You know, so you can leave a little space for doing small daily tasks...then I Could have it running all the time!