Turning off the Sidebar in 10.3

Sharkus · 11-05-2003, 03:02 PM

I like the sidebar, however the Tech Director has just (finally

) upgraded to Panther and he's not keen on the sidebar.

Anyone know if you can remove it?

I know you can slide it over to the left, to hide it, but that only works for the active window, it's there if you open a new window.

Even removing all items from it does not make it go away, it's still visiable, albeit empty.

mclbruce · 11-05-2003, 08:28 PM

Just click on the button in the upper right corner of the window. This gets rid of the sidebar.

chabig · 11-05-2003, 10:54 PM

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	I know you can slide it over to the left, to hide it, but that only works for the active window, it's there if you open a new window.

Open a new window, WITHOUT selecting anything...set up the position, size, view, and sidebar position you like. Then close it. That becomes your default 'new window.'

Chris

JimMueller · 11-05-2003, 11:09 PM

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	Originally posted by chabig Open a new window, WITHOUT selecting anything...set up the position, size, view, and sidebar position you like. Then close it. That becomes your default 'new window.' Chris

Ummmm... nope.

I've now tried it about a dozen times, and all the windows I opened - except for those where I had previously closed the Sidebar - had the Sidebar. I made sure I opened several windows I've never opened before (somewhere deep in the Libraray folders) but they had Sidebars too.

*sigh* I was hoping you had an answer there, Chris.

stetner · 11-06-2003, 12:11 AM

Close ALL finder windows

Open a new one, close side bar, close window

Open a new one. Should be without side bar.

JimMueller · 11-06-2003, 06:57 AM

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	Originally posted by stetner Close ALL finder windows Open a new one, close side bar, close window Open a new one. Should be without side bar.

I should have mentioned in my initial reply that I had thought of that and had made sure all Finder windows were closed.

At least the folders seem to remember their state, so eventually all those I normally visit will have their Sidebar set how I want it.

BraindeadMac · 11-06-2003, 07:23 AM

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	Originally posted by JimMueller I should have mentioned in my initial reply that I had thought of that and had made sure all Finder windows were closed. At least the folders seem to remember their state, so eventually all those I normally visit will have their Sidebar set how I want it.

Actually, this should work the way stetner proposed. Close all your finder windows. Open a new one, click on the little bar to make the Sidebar go away, and then close the finder window without doing anything. This works with the "Always open folders in new window" preference unselected, I don't know about what happens with this selected--that probably uses whatever the default for each folder.

chabig · 11-06-2003, 08:19 AM

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	sigh I was hoping you had an answer there, Chris.

Sorry Jim, I did forget to mention that all windows must be closed first. But this should work. It's been that way since Jaguar. With all windows closed, open a single Finder window, set up the view like you want it, without selecting anything, then close it. That should be the default for new windows.

It's not really intuitive, but it is standard Finder behavior. It worked for me in Jaguar, and it still works in Panther.

Chris

JimMueller · 11-06-2003, 08:20 AM

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	Originally posted by BraindeadMac Actually, this should work the way stetner proposed. Close all your finder windows. Open a new one, click on the little bar to make the Sidebar go away, and then close the finder window without doing anything. This works with the "Always open folders in new window" preference unselected, I don't know about what happens with this selected--that probably uses whatever the default for each folder.

AhHah - that is probably it. It makes sense then, that if all your folders use that same window to display, that they would retain the Sidebar setting.

I do not persoally know anyone who does not have "Always open folders in new window" selected - guess we're all old-school MacHeads....

JimMueller · 11-06-2003, 08:28 AM

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	Originally posted by chabig Sorry Jim, I did forget to mention that all windows must be closed first. But this should work. It's been that way since Jaguar. With all windows closed, open a single Finder window, set up the view like you want it, without selecting anything, then close it. That should be the default for new windows. It's not really intuitive, but it is standard Finder behavior. It worked for me in Jaguar, and it still works in Panther. Chris

I think BraindeadMac had the crucial difference between us and everyone it works with - we have all folders open in new windows and I bet you do not.

This way of setting default preferences has been around for ages - PageMaker 3 is the earliest app I can actually recall where we used it, but OS 6's Finder had a similar trick to select how to sort list view.

chabig · 11-06-2003, 09:09 AM

That must be it. I do not have "Always open folders in a new window" checked. I generally use one Finder window for everything. If I need two windows I just open a new one. They open with my default view every time.

I hadn't thought of that Preference interaction.

Chris

popguru · 11-06-2003, 03:39 PM

I can't verify this myself since I don't have Panther yet (

), but there's probably settings for the default sidebar size or state in the com.apple.finder.plist file in your Preferences folder. If so, you could force your own settings by quitting the Finder, applying your changes to the .plist file, and then restarting the Finder. You'd probably want to make a backup copy of the file first.

stetner · 11-06-2003, 04:59 PM

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	Originally posted by JimMueller I think BraindeadMac had the crucial difference between us and everyone it works with - we have all folders open in new windows and I bet you do not.

Nope, I do not have 'folders open in new windows' and it works for me......

chabig · 11-06-2003, 05:08 PM

To summarize:

"Always open folder in a new window" is CHECKED -- Finder DOES NOT remember window settings.

"Always open folder in a new window" is UNCHECKED -- Finder DOES remember window settings.

Chris

JimMueller · 11-06-2003, 10:11 PM

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	Originally posted by stetner Nope, I do not have 'folders open in new windows' and it works for me......

Sorry Douglas, by "we" I meant my physically local Mac community, not the "we" in this discussion.

I believe Chris summarized it all.

11-05-2003, 03:02 PM	#1
Sharkus Triple-A Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 146	Turning off the Sidebar in 10.3 I like the sidebar, however the Tech Director has just (finally ) upgraded to Panther and he's not keen on the sidebar. Anyone know if you can remove it? I know you can slide it over to the left, to hide it, but that only works for the active window, it's there if you open a new window. Even removing all items from it does not make it go away, it's still visiable, albeit empty.

11-06-2003, 12:11 AM	#5
stetner MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,108	Close ALL finder windows Open a new one, close side bar, close window Open a new one. Should be without side bar. __________________ Douglas G. Stetner UNIX Live Free Or Die

11-06-2003, 03:39 PM	#12
popguru Prospect Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 40	...or just edit the .plist? I can't verify this myself since I don't have Panther yet ( ), but there's probably settings for the default sidebar size or state in the com.apple.finder.plist file in your Preferences folder. If so, you could force your own settings by quitting the Finder, applying your changes to the .plist file, and then restarting the Finder. You'd probably want to make a backup copy of the file first. __________________ . . .

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11-05-2003, 08:28 PM	#2
mclbruce Hall of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,870	Just click on the button in the upper right corner of the window. This gets rid of the sidebar.

11-06-2003, 09:09 AM	#11
chabig Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,932	That must be it. I do not have "Always open folders in a new window" checked. I generally use one Finder window for everything. If I need two windows I just open a new one. They open with my default view every time. I hadn't thought of that Preference interaction. Chris

11-06-2003, 05:08 PM	#14
chabig Hall of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,932	To summarize: "Always open folder in a new window" is CHECKED -- Finder DOES NOT remember window settings. "Always open folder in a new window" is UNCHECKED -- Finder DOES remember window settings. Chris