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Old 08-01-2012, 02:27 PM   #1
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Sidebar items from internal drive gone after reboot

Not sure if my internal drive is getting ready to puke on me or not.

I had trouble copying files between disk images (very slow) and heard some noise..chatter...not exactly raspy, but not smooth sounding either.

now after reboot, all the sidebar items (from THAT drive) are now gone!

Past weekend, tried disk warrioring both internals (non-apple-boot drives) and was told this version of the OS is such that data could be erased by using DW to graph/rebuild.

Is this attack of the killer gremlins?

thank you!

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Old 08-01-2012, 03:28 PM   #2
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Sidebar items are customizable (by you, the user).
Are you saying that you now can't position anything in the sidebar (folders, docs, whatever) that exists on an internal drive volume?

Are you seeing an actual message that Disk Warrior provides, telling you that data could be erased? Can you post the verbatim text of that message? Is it listed in the support pages for Disk Warrior?
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:32 PM   #3
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Sidebar items are customizable (by you, the user).
Are you saying that you now can't position anything in the sidebar (folders, docs, whatever) that exists on an internal drive volume?

No. I'm saying that, after rebooting some hour or so ago, all of the sidebar items put there by me were gone. Every one of them.

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Are you seeing an actual message that Disk Warrior provides, telling you that data could be erased? Can you post the verbatim text of that message? Is it listed in the support pages for Disk Warrior?

Yes, I am seeing a message from Disk Warrior... Not clear where your saying I can find this..in DW manual?

Also, I'm still in Lion , 10.74

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Old 08-01-2012, 03:47 PM   #4
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If you are seeing a message from Disk Warrior - what is that message?
Then, is that message listed somewhere in your DW manual (or on the DW web site support)?

If you don't get a comfortable result in Disk Warrior - What do you get when you boot to your Lion Recovery partition, and run your internal drive through Disk Utility/Repair Disk (different from Repair Disk Permissions)?
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Old 08-01-2012, 03:57 PM   #5
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I haven't gotten as far as thinking of Lion recovery partition...
still trying to make sense of all this activity with the drive. I can load DW and jot down the message.

Also, this is happening to my internal, non-boot hard drives, in case that sheds any light..

scrambling here...a bit worried...sorry for the lack of meat.

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Old 08-01-2012, 06:43 PM   #6
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But, your symptoms sound like possible hard drive problems.
Disk Utility would be a first-level test for that, eh?
So, if you are not booted to the drive, then you don't need to boot to the Recovery partition - but that might be a good place to go, and Disk Utility is there, too. And, you can check ALL your drives/partitions from the Lion Recovery partition.
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:46 PM   #7
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DU would be the first thing I'd reach for. When I try to run "Repair" on them, I get a "cannot dismount drive" warning that stops Repair.

If I'm interpreting you correctly, Lion Recovery won't get me any better tools relative to this potentially problematic non-boot drive, correct?

I have 35 minutes to go with backing up my data, then I can see what DW has to say about things...

thank you

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PS: Data copy failed. Reason given: You don't have MySQL panel priveleges"

For some reason, a whole LOT of other data simply didn't get copied over.

Times like this I hear Rosanne Rosannadanna's famous line: It's always something.

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Old 08-01-2012, 06:54 PM   #8
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With Lion Recovery, you will be booted to a different system, and using a different Disk Utility app. I expect that mounting problem won't be an issue then.
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:55 PM   #9
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OK..I'll try that
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Old 08-02-2012, 11:57 AM   #10
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With Lion Recovery, you will be booted to a different system, and using a different Disk Utility app. I expect that mounting problem won't be an issue then.

well you were right..I'm in the Lion Recovery Partition running DU repair on the internal drives and not only do I not get any error messages about not being able to unmount drives, but the drives pass the test with no issues...no repairs needed. I've run it several times on each drive with the same results.

...and I've run it on the 2 internal hitachi non-boot drives AND the western digital boot drive that came with the mac.

Next stop: DW world.

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Old 08-02-2012, 12:06 PM   #11
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You might want to also run a chown in terminal on your user account, to make sure your system agrees that you own all the files in your user account.
sudo chown -R yourusername /Users/yourusername/
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Old 08-02-2012, 12:18 PM   #12
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If you are seeing a message from Disk Warrior - what is that message?
Then, is that message listed somewhere in your DW manual (or on the DW web site support)?

OK...Just tried doing Rebuild on one of the internals (graph worked fine). What it says is:

This disk appears to have a newer version of the Mac OS disk format that this version of Disk Warrior. An attempt to rebuild could result in loss of data. Please contact Alsoft tech support.

I am almost sure I've successfully run Rebuild since installing 10.7.4, which is what I'm on now.

But could there actually be something about 10.7.4 that's so different from 10.7.3 and earlier as to throw a wrench in DW's spokes?

But I just realized...why didn't/don't I get the same error on the BOOT volume, which actually has OS X installed, and surely would also have the most recent of the OS X disc format?

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Old 08-02-2012, 01:44 PM   #13
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You might want to also run a chown in terminal on your user account, to make sure your system agrees that you own all the files in your user account.
sudo chown -R yourusername /Users/yourusername/

Here are the results from my doing your suggestion..FYI, I was in my regular user (Lion) but logged in as Admin; the only way any password would be accepted by terminal:


Code:
Lions-Mac-Pro:~ lion$ sudo chown -R Lion/Users/Lion/
Password:
usage: chown [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] owner[:group] file ...
       chown [-fhv] [-R [-H | -L | -P]] :group file ...
Lions-Mac-Pro:~ lion$
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:13 PM   #14
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Be careful of case. I can see that your user is lion (not Lion), and you are missing a space - so the command should be typed: (notice the space between lion and /Users/lion/
sudo chown -R lion /Users/lion/
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:44 PM   #15
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Be careful of case. I can see that your user is lion (not Lion), and you are missing a space - so the command should be typed: (notice the space between lion and /Users/lion/
sudo chown -R lion /Users/lion/

This time, after entering the corrected string, above, and my password, it waits a few seconds and merely returns the prompt:

Lions-Mac-Pro:~ lion$

is that weird?

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Old 08-02-2012, 04:59 PM   #16
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If it did not return an error message, then the command completed successfully.

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