Carbon Copy Cloning Intel mac using G4

[acme]

I tried using CCC to clone an intel mac by using a G4 as the machine running CCC. seemed to go fine but when I tried to "proof" my work, the intel mac wouldn't boot to the disk I CCCd to. I used the method where you get "This will be a bootable disk."

Any suggestions? the drive in question onto which I CCC was formatted by a G4...does that harm things?

thanks for any suggestions.

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[NovaScotian]

The G4 is formatted with an Apple Partition Map and the Intel with a GUID Partition Map. Don't know if that's the problem, but it is a difference.

[acme.mail.order]

It's a problem. Intel machines need a GUID drive to boot from. PPC Macs need Apple Partition Map. 10.5's Disk Utility will do both versions but you have to go into Partition -> Options to change the default. Once it's partitioned properly you can clone from any computer.

[acme]

Quote: Originally Posted by acme.mail.order It's a problem. Intel machines need a GUID drive to boot from. PPC Macs need Apple Partition Map. 10.5's Disk Utility will do both versions but you have to go into Partition -> Options to change the default. Once it's partitioned properly you can clone from any computer.

would you mind nutshelling it for me?

you say, re-format the hard drive to receive the clone using the intel mac and changing an option?

I decided to try again after formatting using the macintel, but not sure if I checked the right thing...it's blasting away now..

thanks!

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[acme.mail.order]

I thought I did.

The drive needs a partition map appropriate for the computer it's going to boot. Intel -> GUID, PPC -> Apple Partition Map. The computer you use to create the partiton map doesn't matter but an older Disk Utility won't do GUID.

If you _reformatted_ using the macintel you didn't change the partiton map - stop the clone job, run Disk Utility, select the drive (not the volume) and choose Partiton.

[acme]

OK...I'm going to re-do that part..thank you!

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[Andreas~]

You have step-by-step instructions in the Bombich forums for preparing a target drive and everything else you need to do. Do make use of CCC Help either online or (same docs) offline from CCC's Help menu. Start with B4 U post…. If you need further help just post a question in that forum.

(Moderator forums.bombich.com)

[acme]

OK, fair enough...I have some reading to do.

It does sound like I tried both routes in terms of partition type and both failed..but I see that you have links which may provide a remedy.

At any rate, I'm registered at your forum, so I may be posting there shortly.

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I haven't hacked deeply into the kernel of OS X specifically (I used to do a lot of UNIX programming too), my guess is that it's likely more than one or two modules that are going to have to be swapped out. Among other things, Intel machines use EFI for the firmware and I'm pretty sure the PowerPC kernel does not.

It's up to you, but I think you'll spend far more time trying to get this to work and the likelihood of success is small. The particular place it's hanging is probably just the tip of the iceberg. :-)


Let me know how you choose to proceed, and how things work! Kind regards,

[acme.mail.order]

Quote: Originally Posted by divorce certific I haven't hacked deeply into the kernel of OS X specifically (I used to do a lot of UNIX programming too), my guess is that it's likely more than one or two modules that are going to have to be swapped out.

Why would you even consider swapping kernel modules out?? ??

Quote: Originally Posted by divorce certific It's up to you, but I think you'll spend far more time trying to get this to work and the likelihood of success is small. The particular place it's hanging is probably just the tip of the iceberg. :-)

He has to repartition his external drive and make one clearly labeled choice in the nice GUI application provided for the purpose. Yes, it's hidden behind the 'options' button but the whole job takes under a minute.

[acme]

I think that I get the idea..I did use the nice GUI app and went into "partitions>options" and selected GUID, used CCC and it still failed. is there something bad about how I'm doing it by using a G4 PPC Mac to do the cloning procedure on an intel-based mac?

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[Cheech'i]

Quote: Originally Posted by acme.mail.order It's a problem. Intel machines need a GUID drive to boot from.

I've had my MBP running with an APM disk ever since I upgraded the drive. Things like SMC/firmware updates will tell you that you need a GUID drive, but an Intel mac can be perfectly happy with an APM disk if you choose to do that.

You can clone a source from either (APM or GUID) to either (APM or GUID) using CCC and not have any issues.

[acme]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cheech'i I've had my MBP running with an APM disk ever since I upgraded the drive. Things like SMC/firmware updates will tell you that you need a GUID drive, but an Intel mac can be perfectly happy with an APM disk if you choose to do that. You can clone a source from either (APM or GUID) to either (APM or GUID) using CCC and not have any issues.

well, that's great to hear, Cheech'i..wonder why I am having problems then..

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[Hal Itosis]

Quote: Originally Posted by acme is there something bad about how I'm doing it by using a G4 PPC Mac to do the cloning procedure on an intel-based mac?

Then try the clone from the Intel itself. CCC and other cloners were designed for folks to do "live" cloning. [i.e., to clone the disk from which they're currently booted... because all they have is one Mac and one FW.]

Also, try using Disk Utility ("Restore" panel) instead of CCC. BTW, which version of CCC are you using?

BTW#2, when you say it "wouldn't boot" -- what all does happen?
Are you holding down the option key during all this or what?
Or, is the clone showing in System Prefs --> Startup Disk as the *selected* volume?

[acme]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hal Itosis Then try the clone from the Intel itself. CCC and other cloners were designed for folks to do "live" cloning. [i.e., to clone the disk from which they're currently booted... because all they have is one Mac and one FW.] Also, try using Disk Utility ("Restore" panel) instead of CCC. BTW, which version of CCC are you using? BTW#2, when you say it "wouldn't boot" -- what all does happen? Are holding down the option key during all this or what? Also: is the clone showing in System Prefs --> Startup Disk as the *selected* volume? Details man, details!

by "wouldn't boot" I get a spinning gear and a gray apple, but never a desktop. then after a few mins, the screen goes black, I hear the startup chime and the whole thing starts again.

I have tried starting using both the option key method and the system prefs>choose startup disk method..

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