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Old 02-17-2002, 03:03 PM   #1
twalkabout
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Installing OS X without intalling 9 (no classic)

I would like to upgrade two of my friends laptops with OS X. They are both basic computer users and only use common programs -- all of which are available for OS X.

I haven't seen any reference to this -- but is there any problem with installing OS X without a copy of 9? Will some Carbon application installers have a problem?

I see no need to confuse basic users with 2 operating systems at this point. Since 90% of people can do everything they need to do exclusively in X (Microsoft Office w/ Entourage, Internet Browsing, iTunes, iMovie, iPhoto, etc).

Does anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks,
--tom--
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Old 02-18-2002, 02:52 AM   #2
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I had no problems running OS X without OS 9 installed.

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Old 02-18-2002, 03:47 AM   #3
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You should be fine as long as you don't run any Classic Apps

Seriously, I don't have OS 9 installed on my Mac anymore and it runs sweet.
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Old 02-19-2002, 12:57 AM   #4
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Only 1 glitch so far

I'm glad to see there are some other people doing this.

I am amazed to find that every guide book I have read or site I have seen has no reference to installing X without 9. I think it's because everybody writing the books and probably most people reading the books are 'power users' and therefore need to run some apps in Classic.

However, for all those basic users out there (especially the 3-4 that I have convinced to buy a Mac) -- I really don't see the need for OS 9 on their computer. It just makes the Mac very confusing. There is nothing simple about 2 operating systems on a computer (or 3 if you are running Virtual PC, or even 4 if you have partitioned your hard drive).

Honestly, I think Apple should ship computers now without 9 even installed, because although it may be hard for most people on this forum to believe -- I think 90% of people that are buying Macs could probably do just fine exclusively in X. For the more advanced 10% -- it will be pretty easy for them to install OS9 with the included CD. However, for those other 90% -- half of them will probably never delete OS 9 from their computer (speaking of which -- does that simply involve trashing the appropriate folders?)

The only caveat I have so far is that I have had one glitch: While trying to install TextSoap (a very cool program that cleans up text in one click -- you can find it at
http://www.textsoap.com ) -- it did not work because it tries to install both a classic and OS X version. I will write them to let them know -- however, I wonder how many other installers have this difficulty.

--Tom--

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