iPhone 5 startup time

[onceagain]

What is the start-up time for an iPhone 5? I'm talking about the time between being completely off and being ready to use to make a call. What about the shutdown time - as measured from when I tell it to turn off to the time it actually turns off.

I'm wondering about the viability of keeping the phone off until I am ready to make a call, and then turning it back off again.

If the start-up & shutdown time is too long, this becomes impractical.

Thanks,
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[NaOH]

This video gives a clue. Since you didn't have time to do a search, I'll tell you that it showed a startup time of about 18 seconds.

[acme.mail.order]

Why? Definitely not the usual usage pattern. Very few users (of any phone) actually power it down between calls. Don't forget to include network initialization in the waiting period.

And shutdown time would seem to be irrelevant - initiate the shutdown then put it back in your pocket. Not like it needs supervision.

If you are trying to reduce inadvertent network data usage then airplane mode would be much more convenient.

[onceagain]

Quote: Originally Posted by NaOH This video gives a clue. Since you didn't have time to do a search, I'll tell you that it showed a startup time of about 18 seconds.

I did do a search - I looked for 10 minutes, using a variety of different terms! But all I got for results were videos - I didn't want to watch a video and NOT ONE of the links just told you what the time was in some text-based fashion.

If I want to watch videos, I'll watch TV. If I am at the computer, I prefer to consume information in a text-based format. I HATE it when "news" only comes in video format, without a real article to go with it. Besides which, videos are almost always blocked here (at work) anyway, so I couldn't watch them if I wanted to.

Anyway - it appears the answer is 18 seconds. Thanks for that info. I'm surprised it takes so long! My computer takes a lot less time than that. Any word on the iPhone 5 shutdown time?

[NaOH]

Quote: Originally Posted by onceagain I did do a search - I looked for 10 minutes, using a variety of different terms! But all I got for results were videos - I didn't want to watch a video and NOT ONE of the links just told you what the time was in some text-based fashion.

Seems odd to search for 10 minutes when a video like the above linked one is just 41 seconds long. And, no, I didn't watch the whole thing to see the result.

[onceagain]

Quote: Originally Posted by acme.mail.order Why? Definitely not the usual usage pattern.

Yes, I know.

Quote: Very few users (of any phone) actually power it down between calls.

That's because most people today are addicts.

Quote: Don't forget to include network initialization in the waiting period.

Well, I did ask about it being "ready to use"...

Quote: And shutdown time would seem to be irrelevant - initiate the shutdown then put it back in your pocket. Not like it needs supervision.

You would think. However, my experience with Macs has been that there always seems to be some dialog box asking me if I am sure I want to do whatever, or Application XYZ interrupted the shutdown process, etc. You used to be able to easily deal with this but simply resetting the power manager to get an instant shutdown, but now the stupid thing automatically restarts all your applications next time it boots up, thereby eliminating that highly useful feature. ANYWAY - I have learned not to trust technology to do what I tell it to do and find myself having to witness it actually do it, rather than making assumptions.

Quote: If you are trying to reduce inadvertent network data usage

No, I'm simply trying to avoid the phone being on (if I am not using it to make a call).

[NaOH]

Quote: Originally Posted by onceagain However, my experience with Macs has been that there always seems to be some dialog box asking me if I am sure I want to do whatever, or Application XYZ interrupted the shutdown process, etc. ...ANYWAY - I have learned not to trust technology to do what I tell it to do and find myself having to witness it actually do it, rather than making assumptions

In five years of owning an iPhone, and having used every major OS revision, I've never seen a shutdown interruption by a dialog (or anything). Admittedly, I don't shut my phone off as often as you indicate you will, but I would think I'd have seen one by now if it were to occur.

The way it works, if the user simply holds the on/off switch for a few seconds the shutdown begins, as indicated by a spinning gear. The delay of holding the button momentarily is, in essence, the equivalent of the "Are you sure you want to shutdown?" prompt in that it prevents an inadvertent shutdown.

[onceagain]

Quote: Originally Posted by NaOH The way it works, if the user simply holds the on/off switch for a few seconds the shutdown begins, as indicated by a spinning gear. The delay of holding the button momentarily is, in essence, the equivalent of the "Are you sure you want to shutdown?" prompt in that it prevents an inadvertent shutdown.

Well, that's good to know. I've never used an iPhone, so I dunno how it operates.

Would probably be hard to break a habit though......but I suppose it is possible in the unlikely event I have a positive experience.

[acme.mail.order]

Perhaps a simpler phone would be more to your liking. One without data services or graphical UI. The Motorola StarTac would do nicely.

[onceagain]

Quote: Originally Posted by acme.mail.order Perhaps a simpler phone would be more to your liking.

Yeah, I have one of those now. But I am tired of not having a phone that syncs contacts & calendar with computer in an EASY fashion, or having to use some hack solution that only kinda-sorta works sometimes, etc. Gets to be a pain in the ass, and it is really my only real incentive for something newer.

[NaOH]

Geez, some software like the one linked below sure seems like a much less expensive path than a smartphone with a data package you don't anticipate using (though I could imagine map software being of use in a new locale).

http://www.phonecopy.com/en (note the compatibility link at the top right)

[onceagain]

Quote: Originally Posted by NaOH Geez, some software like the one linked below sure seems like a much less expensive path than a smartphone with a data package you don't anticipate using (though I could imagine map software being of use in a new locale).

Well, I have a GPS already. Bought it for a recent trip eastern Europe. I never imagined how useful it would be - and my wife and joke that we surely would have ended up arguing the whole time if it were not for the GPS (:

Quote: http://www.phonecopy.com/en (note the compatibility link at the top right)

I'll check it out - but I'm skeptical. Nothing I have ever tried in the past has ever worked acceptably. Thanks (:

Update: that phone copy thing doesn't really seem to be what I am after - plus it wants to put my stuff on the web. Would not work for me. But thanks for trying to help.

[NaOH]

Quote: Originally Posted by onceagain I'll check it out - but I'm skeptical. Nothing I have ever tried in the past has ever worked acceptably. Thanks (:

I haven't used it, so it may be poorly done or excellent. I found it on MacUpdate for someone recently. Since there is a free version available, at least it can be tried. It's kind of hidden: At the bottom of the main page, in the footer, is an Apps heading which will take you to the download.

(Indeed, the design of the site isn't an auspicious start.)

[acme.mail.order]

Quote: Originally Posted by onceagain But I am tired of not having a phone that syncs contacts & calendar with computer in an EASY fashion, or having to use some hack solution that only kinda-sorta works sometimes, etc. Gets to be a pain in the ass, and it is really my only real incentive for something newer.

Got the perfect solution for you - immediately ends all technology-related quibbling about how it "doesn't work the way I want it to". Fully cross-platform, completely versatile, reliable, simple backups on demand, always in style ....

[DeltaMac]

I am not "addicted" to my phone - but it's the only phone I have (no wired phone at home at all). If I turn the phone OFF, then no one can call me (maybe that's a good thing, but...)
So, I may recycle the power occasionally (maybe once a month), but it is never off, just on standby. I would say that's typical.
I use data only rarely, maybe once or twice a month. I don't have a clue how to text - weird, eh? It doesn't interest me in the slightest way, so I guess that makes me _not_typical...
So, my phone just mostly sits there. "Startup time" from standby is instant.
Even an amazing iPhone can be - in the end, just a phone.

[onceagain]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeltaMac I am not "addicted" to my phone - but it's the only phone I have (no wired phone at home at all).

Me too.

Quote: If I turn the phone OFF, then no one can call me (maybe that's a good thing, but...)

Well, yeah, that's the idea.

Quote: I don't have a clue how to text - weird, eh? It doesn't interest me in the slightest way, so I guess that makes me _not_typical...

Well, I KNOW how, but I don't have any need. In fact, I had to call AT&T and have them disable text messages for my line so that I would not get incoming messages.

Quote: Even an amazing iPhone can be - in the end, just a phone.

That's how I look at it too - it's just there for MY convenience. If someone wants to reach me, they're better off sending an e-mail.

[DeltaMac]

"..they're better off sending an e-mail"
Well, that implies that you know someone who knows how to use email . My most recent call is from my computer-challenged friend, to help her get her email working (again), which happens once or twice a week (at least it seems like that often)

[onceagain]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeltaMac "..they're better off sending an e-mail" Well, that implies that you know someone who knows how to use email .

Well, it does. If they don't, they can sent it via post.