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Old 01-20-2013, 01:53 PM   #1
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Excluding "Bookmarks and History" from a Safari search?

How can I exclude "Bookmarks and History" from the dropdown menu during a search in Safari browser?

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:15 PM   #2
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Wait!
You want to prevent your browser from offering you previous results or bookmarks that may be relevant to your search?
That dropdown menu is created dynamically. It's an auto-complete "guess" list that you can choose from to make your search quicker, or that you can choose to ignore completely by continuing to type your search term. If neither your previous history, nor your existing bookmarks are relevant to your search, then Safari won't list them at all.
You can click on the History "Clear History", and then, with all history cleared, only web results, or relevant bookmarks, will appear in the auto-complete list.
I don't know how (or why) you would prevent relevant bookmarks from appearing...
Isn't that part of Searches, to look locally for results, if possible?
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:48 PM   #3
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I'm also going to ask a "why do you want to do this" question.
Is this privacy related? I.e. are you worried that someone else using your computer will see your history or your bookmarks?
If so, the correct solution is to have that other person login using a separate user account - or as a Guest (enabled via the Users and Groups preference panel). This is easy via Fast User Switching.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:03 AM   #4
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Yes, I do find the search feature in Safari obtrusive.

Ideally, I'd like to be able to limit searches (in the main search window), to Google only, for guests. If I want to search my Bookmarks, I simply push Cmmd + F while the Bookmarks are open.

A toggle switch to turn the Bookmark search on/off in the main search box would be nice, but I'll add that to my list of feature requests along with the "hand" disappearing from "Preview" (to pull a page up or down) and the up/down "arrows" disappearing from all apps for moving a page a tad up or down. (It leaves me the option of using my scroll wheel, but drops two other convenient choices.)

Apple's move towards simplifying is sometimes dropping a feature or a hardware item (such as the superdrive and firewire plugin to the new iMacs).

Ahh . . . but that is progress

I'll look into Fast User Switching, which I wasn't familiar with:
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH4012?v...S&locale=en_US

Thank you gentlemen.
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:09 PM   #5
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Ideally, I'd like to be able to limit searches (in the main search window), to Google only, for guests.

People logged in with the special "Guest" account will (of course) see only their own history and bookmarks. And all this (along with all other files created by the guest) automatically gets deleted when the guest logs out.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:16 AM   #6
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And all this (along with all other files created by the guest) automatically gets deleted when the guest logs out.

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Thx Hayne, the files created by the "Guest" don't actually get deleted, do they?

They merely can't be viewed by the main Admin User, correct?

I would check, but my computer's getting a little "long in the tooth" and it takes a while to switch Users

Thank you for the help and suggestions!
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:47 AM   #7
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Thx Hayne, the files created by the "Guest" don't actually get deleted, do they?

They merely can't be viewed by the main Admin User, correct?

Hayne stated exactly what will occur. When the user logs out of the Guest account, everything is deleted. Files created, network passwords that were used, any settings that were adjusted, etc. It's all gone. The Guest account starts fresh every time.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:56 PM   #8
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Thank you gentlemen . . . one more note to those perusing this thread.

As I restarted my iMac, I was giving the option to enter my computer password to save all work/files done on the Guest User account, so their work could be saved if you'd like.

Thanks for all the great suggestions
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:16 AM   #9
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The system's Guest User account, because the account is temporary, deletes any files that are created by the Guest User when the Guest User log out.
That's the great feature of the Guest User - you don't want to keep those files, do you?
If you really want to allow someone to save files and settings, then create a standard user account for that person, and let folks use the Guest User when you don't need them to "leave a trail"
Then, you don't have to wait in the area, in case they decide they want to save something, and need you to type in your password. I hope you wouldn't give someone else your admin password, which would make the Guest User, well, useless.
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:03 PM   #10
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The system's Guest User account, because the account is temporary, deletes any files that are created by the Guest User when the Guest User log out.

Well, actually, it deletes the Guest account's home folder, including (of course) everything within that folder.

It does not delete files the Guest user saved outside their home folder. Use standard Unix permissions to control where else they may save a file.

Thus, if your Guest user, in a fit of creativity, writes the first chapter of what is sure is going to be the next blockbuster, they can (permissions permitting) save it in /Users/Shared and then log out. It'll be waiting for them the next time they come to visit. Or they could save it to a thumb drive without fear that the system will wipe the drive when they log out.

If you don't want them leaving any trace at all, add an ACL denying them list/seach access to directories they might otherwise have access to. For example:

sudo chmod +a "user:Guest deny list,search" /Users/Shared

In a pinch, they could still drop files into your Public/"Drop Box" folder, but they'd need help from you to get them back. For example, you could drag the file up a level, to your Public folder, which they would still have read access to. (Unless you change it.)
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:53 AM   #11
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and the up/down "arrows" disappearing from all apps for moving a page a tad up or down. (It leaves me the option of using my scroll wheel, but drops two other convenient choices.)

Without wishing to take this off on major tangent of subjectivity, Apple's reasons for removing scroll bars is clear. Particularly on large screens, it is far from convenient to have to move the pointer over to the side of the window and manipulate controls to scroll the window, when input devices already have scrolling controls built-in. TrackPads, Magic Mice, Tablets and third-party mice all have scroll controls these days. The "mouse travel" to the arrows and back again is completely unnecessary. You can of course also use the keyboard buttons for scrolling.

As with many things, Apple discourages, and then removes to wean us from the old habit.

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Apple's move towards simplifying is sometimes dropping a feature or a hardware item (such as the superdrive and firewire plugin to the new iMacs). Ahh . . . but that is progress

I bought the MacMini in preference to an iMac, because it has FireWire (and audio in), and I got the Superdrive too.
But yes, the removal of vestigial or optional features is progress. Otherwise, our Macs would still support SCSI, ADB, floppy drives, VGA, NuBus -- as well as backwards compatibility with Mac OS 6. All this would not be without a premium and penalty.

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Old 01-24-2013, 07:28 AM   #12
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… it is far from convenient to have to move the pointer over to the side of the window and manipulate controls to scroll the window, when input devices already have scrolling controls built-in.

While there may be more convenient ways to scroll, the scroll bars also provide a visual indication of where you are in your document and of what proportion of the document fits in one window. If your preferences are set correctly, they also provide an easy, one-click way to jump to any point in the document. If you didn't use those features, you won't miss them, but some of us would.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:56 AM   #13
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the scroll bars also provide a visual indication of where you are in your document and of what proportion of the document fits in one window.

You dont need to move the mouse to the edge of page to make scroll bars appear. Just scrolling fractionally with a mouse or trackpad - wherever the cursor is on the page will make the scroll bars appear automatically.
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Old 01-25-2013, 08:23 PM   #14
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In System Preferences/General
there is a radio button for:
Show scroll bars > always . . . which I keep ticked
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