Text Edit lost it's "zoom" field?

acme · 02-10-2013, 08:42 AM

Used to be, Text Edit would offer a "Zoom" field, IIRC, lower right of a document, with some pre-set percentages for how large you'd like your document to appear, but I think you could also type in a percentage..

This seems to be gone now. Cmd period and Cmd Comma will zoom in and zoom out, but this only gives big boosts or decrements to magnification, and, fussy me, I'd like to dial my own in..

So, is it just me, or is this zoom field gone now in Mt. Lion Text edit?

thank you!

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benwiggy · 02-10-2013, 09:43 AM

Oh, weird. Yes, it's not there. Perhaps a defaults command might bring it back? But I'm guessing it was a vestige of the old Claris apps, and Apple have decided it's had its time.

DeltaMac · 02-10-2013, 10:04 AM

Not sure if I recall that as a feature in TextEdit - ever. It's not available in TextEdit v.1.5 (in Leopard). It IS in the last version AppleWorks that I have here.

jeffshenk · 02-10-2013, 10:59 AM

I have it in TextEdit 1.6 on Snow Leopard.

DeltaMac · 02-10-2013, 11:09 AM

I found what toggles that zoom field.
Format menu - "Wrap to Page"
"Wrap to Window" turns that feature off. I have mine set with that turned off, so didn't see it at first.
The setting is there in Lion TextEdit. I don't currently have a Mac that will run ML, so can't check for myself.

camxe · 02-10-2013, 11:10 AM

Cmd-Shift-W n00bs i kid, i kid.

NaOH · 02-10-2013, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeltaMac


	The setting is there in Lion TextEdit. I don't currently have a Mac that will run ML, so can't check for myself.

The Wrap To Page setting is in Mountain Lion, but it doesn't include the pop-up menu for setting the zoom level. Instead, there's a persistent View menu with Zoom In, Zoom Out, and Actual Size.

benwiggy · 02-11-2013, 02:20 AM

My initial response was similarly "Wrap to Page", until I actually tried it in 10.8. It's gone.

acme · 02-11-2013, 06:59 AM

ok..thank you for the confirmation.

IMHO, that is a crummy move on Apple's part..

macosnoob · 02-11-2013, 07:43 AM

Time was, back with the Developer's tools under Snow Leopard, Apple gave you the source code for TextEdit to modify as you saw fit. Is the TextEdit source code still in the Developer's tools under Mountain Lion? I couldn't begin to say what you would need to do "fix" TextEdit to your liking, but Apple has provided the raw materials.

ganbustein · 02-12-2013, 05:45 PM

Time was, software came on DVDs, which had lots of room, so Apple would routinely throw in all sorts of extras, just in case you were interested. It doesn't cost Apple any more to master a full DVD than a half-full one, and doesn't cost the user anything either.

But now that software is downloaded, it becomes important both for Apple and especially for the end user to keep the download packages lean and mean. The OS X installers no longer automatically include Xcode, X11, the Unix development tools (compilers, linkers, libraries, and their man pages) or anything else that most users will never use. Now, Xcode is a separate download, and even if you download it you have to tell it to explicitly download the command-line developer tools if you want them.

Sample code falls into the same category. If you want it, download it, but Apple's not going to push it onto your computer "just in case". The sample code for TextEdit is here, but it's apparently the 10.7 version of it. (That's probably the one you want, though.)

02-10-2013, 08:42 AM	#1
acme MVP Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,667	Text Edit lost it's "zoom" field? Used to be, Text Edit would offer a "Zoom" field, IIRC, lower right of a document, with some pre-set percentages for how large you'd like your document to appear, but I think you could also type in a percentage.. This seems to be gone now. Cmd period and Cmd Comma will zoom in and zoom out, but this only gives big boosts or decrements to magnification, and, fussy me, I'd like to dial my own in.. So, is it just me, or is this zoom field gone now in Mt. Lion Text edit? thank you! a

02-10-2013, 09:43 AM	#2
benwiggy League Commissioner Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,039	Oh, weird. Yes, it's not there. Perhaps a defaults command might bring it back? But I'm guessing it was a vestige of the old Claris apps, and Apple have decided it's had its time. Last edited by benwiggy; 02-10-2013 at 09:46 AM.

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02-10-2013, 10:04 AM	#3
DeltaMac League Commissioner Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,941	Not sure if I recall that as a feature in TextEdit - ever. It's not available in TextEdit v.1.5 (in Leopard). It IS in the last version AppleWorks that I have here.

02-10-2013, 10:59 AM	#4
jeffshenk Prospect Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 15	I have it in TextEdit 1.6 on Snow Leopard.

02-10-2013, 11:09 AM	#5
DeltaMac League Commissioner Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,941	I found what toggles that zoom field. Format menu - "Wrap to Page" "Wrap to Window" turns that feature off. I have mine set with that turned off, so didn't see it at first. The setting is there in Lion TextEdit. I don't currently have a Mac that will run ML, so can't check for myself.

02-10-2013, 11:10 AM	#6
camxe Prospect Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 15	Cmd-Shift-W n00bs i kid, i kid.

02-11-2013, 02:20 AM	#8
benwiggy League Commissioner Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,039	My initial response was similarly "Wrap to Page", until I actually tried it in 10.8. It's gone.

02-11-2013, 06:59 AM	#9
acme MVP Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,667	ok..thank you for the confirmation. IMHO, that is a crummy move on Apple's part..

02-11-2013, 07:43 AM	#10
macosnoob MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,751	Time was, back with the Developer's tools under Snow Leopard, Apple gave you the source code for TextEdit to modify as you saw fit. Is the TextEdit source code still in the Developer's tools under Mountain Lion? I couldn't begin to say what you would need to do "fix" TextEdit to your liking, but Apple has provided the raw materials.

02-12-2013, 05:45 PM	#11
ganbustein MVP Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Berkeley CA USA Posts: 1,008	Time was, software came on DVDs, which had lots of room, so Apple would routinely throw in all sorts of extras, just in case you were interested. It doesn't cost Apple any more to master a full DVD than a half-full one, and doesn't cost the user anything either. But now that software is downloaded, it becomes important both for Apple and especially for the end user to keep the download packages lean and mean. The OS X installers no longer automatically include Xcode, X11, the Unix development tools (compilers, linkers, libraries, and their man pages) or anything else that most users will never use. Now, Xcode is a separate download, and even if you download it you have to tell it to explicitly download the command-line developer tools if you want them. Sample code falls into the same category. If you want it, download it, but Apple's not going to push it onto your computer "just in case". The sample code for TextEdit is here, but it's apparently the 10.7 version of it. (That's probably the one you want, though.)