Safari slow and bloated. Why?

vanakaru · 02-26-2013, 02:23 AM

It has gone from bad to worse in a year maybe. Browsing pages is slow, scrolling responds with half second delay. When I look in Activity Monitor Safari takes 120-150%CPU even if I do not touch anything on Facebook. Youtube videos do not play or are jittery, sometimes Tube page does not load properly.
I tried Camino that is slightly better, but rather similar.
Now Opera works really well. CPU is 4-5% idle and 35% max on the same facebook page that raves safary to 150%.
I could happily start using Opera from now on, but I wonder if there is something odd with my system to bloat Safari so bad.
MBP 4.1 2,6ghz 512VRAM 4gbRAM SSD, OS X 10.6.8

arpad · 02-26-2013, 11:03 AM

Try clearing the cache for a start .

ricede · 02-26-2013, 12:06 PM

Have you tried logging into the Guest a/c & trying Safari in that. ( If you want admin access you will have to set up a new separate a/c )

To setup the guest a/c ( if not already done ) - go to System prefs / Accounts. Click the padlock, enter password, click on Guest a/c and enable. Then log out from your a/c & login to Guest a/c.

That will at least will tell you if the problem is in your home user files.

vanakaru · 02-27-2013, 03:34 AM

I do clean with Onyx when I get really frustrated. It does not help.

benwiggy · 02-27-2013, 04:55 AM

I had a problem with Safari, and manually deleting ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari improved matters.
Deleting the caches with Onyx or with Safari's Developer menu didn't work.

trevor · 02-27-2013, 03:11 PM

Quote:


	It has gone from bad to worse in a year maybe. Browsing pages is slow, scrolling responds with half second delay. When I look in Activity Monitor Safari takes 120-150%CPU even if I do not touch anything on Facebook. Youtube videos do not play or are jittery, sometimes Tube page does not load properly.

What Safari plugins are installed? Safari > Help > Installed Plug-ins

Trevor

Jamie.11 · 02-28-2013, 05:22 AM

I think you should try clearing all of your cookies, history, cache, etc. and then restart. See if that works.

vanakaru · 02-28-2013, 05:47 AM

Code:

EstEID Firefox plug-in
Allows digital signing with Estonian ID cards — from file “esteidfirefoxplugin.bundle”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
application/x-digidoc	EstEID Firefox plug-in	
Flip4Mac Windows Media Plugin 2.2
The Flip4Mac WMV Plugin allows you to view Windows Media content using QuickTime. — from file “Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
application/asx	Windows Media Plugin	
application/x-mplayer2	Windows Media Plugin	
audio/x-ms-wax	Windows Media Playlist	wax
audio/x-ms-wma	Windows Media Audio	wma
video/x-ms-asf	Windows Media Video	asf
video/x-ms-asf-plugin	Windows Media Plugin	
video/x-ms-asx	Windows Media Playlist	asx
video/x-ms-wm	Windows Media Video	wm
video/x-ms-wmp	Windows Media Video	wmp
video/x-ms-wmv	Windows Media Video	wmv
video/x-ms-wmx	Windows Media Playlist	wmx
video/x-ms-wvx	Windows Media Playlist	wvx
iPhotoPhotocast
iPhoto6 — from file “iPhotoPhotocast.plugin”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
application/photo	iPhoto 700	
Java Applet Plug-in
Displays Java applet content, or a placeholder if Java is not installed. — from file “JavaAppletPlugin.plugin”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
application/x-java-applet	Basic Java Applets	javaapplet
application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.6.0_37	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.1	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.2	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.1.3	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.1	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.2.2	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.3.1	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.4.2	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.5	Java applet	
application/x-java-applet;version=1.6	Java applet	
application/x-java-vm	Java applet	
application/x-java-vm-npruntime	Java applet	
QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.6
The QuickTime Plugin allows you to view a wide variety of multimedia content in web pages. For more information, visit the QuickTime Web site. — from file “QuickTime Plugin.plugin”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
application/annodex	Annodex Media	anx
application/ogg	Ogg Multimedia Bitstream	ogg, ogx
application/sdp	SDP stream descriptor	sdp
application/x-annodex	Annodex Media	anx
application/x-mpeg	AMC media	amc
application/x-ogg	Ogg Multimedia Bitstream	ogg, ogx
application/x-rtsp	RTSP stream descriptor	rtsp,rts
application/x-sdp	SDP stream descriptor	sdp
audio/3gpp	3GPP media	3gp,3gpp
audio/3gpp2	3GPP2 media	3g2,3gp2
audio/aac	AAC audio	aac,adts
audio/ac3	AC3 audio	ac3
audio/aiff	AIFF audio	aiff,aif,aifc,cdda
audio/amr	AMR audio	amr
audio/annodex	Annodex Audio	axa
audio/basic	uLaw/AU audio	au,snd,ulw
audio/mid	MIDI	mid,midi,smf,kar
audio/midi	MIDI	mid,midi,smf,kar
audio/mp3	MP3 audio	mp3,swa
audio/mp4	MPEG-4 media	mp4
audio/mpeg	MPEG audio	mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1a,mp2,mpm,mpa,m2a,mp3,swa
audio/mpeg3	MP3 audio	mp3,swa
audio/ogg	Ogg Audio	oga
audio/speex	Ogg Speex audio	spx
audio/vnd.qcelp	QUALCOMM PureVoice audio	qcp,qcp
audio/wav	WAVE audio	wav,bwf
audio/x-aac	AAC audio	aac,adts
audio/x-ac3	AC3 audio	ac3
audio/x-aiff	AIFF audio	aiff,aif,aifc,cdda
audio/x-annodex	Annodex Audio	axa
audio/x-caf	CAF audio	caf
audio/x-gsm	GSM audio	gsm
audio/x-m4a	AAC audio	m4a
audio/x-m4b	AAC audio book	m4b
audio/x-m4p	AAC audio (protected)	m4p
audio/x-midi	MIDI	mid,midi,smf,kar
audio/x-mp3	MP3 audio	mp3,swa
audio/x-mpeg	MPEG audio	mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1a,mp2,mpm,mpa,m2a,mp3,swa
audio/x-mpeg3	MP3 audio	mp3,swa
audio/x-ogg	Ogg Audio	oga
audio/x-speex	Ogg Speex audio	spx
audio/x-tta	True Audio	tta
audio/x-wav	WAVE audio	wav,bwf
image/jp2	JPEG2000 image	jp2
image/jpeg2000	JPEG2000 image	jp2
image/jpeg2000-image	JPEG2000 image	jp2
image/pict	PICT image	pict,pic,pct
image/png	PNG image	png
image/tiff	TIFF image	tif,tiff
image/x-bmp	BMP image	bmp,dib
image/x-jpeg2000-image	JPEG2000 image	jp2
image/x-macpaint	MacPaint image	pntg,pnt,mac
image/x-pict	PICT image	pict,pic,pct
image/x-png	PNG image	png
image/x-quicktime	QuickTime image	qtif,qti
image/x-sgi	SGI image	sgi,rgb
image/x-targa	TGA image	targa,tga
image/x-tiff	TIFF image	tif,tiff
video/3gpp	3GPP media	3gp,3gpp
video/3gpp2	3GPP2 media	3g2,3gp2
video/annodex	Annodex Video	axv
video/avi	Video For Windows (AVI)	avi,vfw,vfw,avi,gvi,divx,vp6
video/flc	AutoDesk Animator (FLC)	flc,fli,cel
video/mp4	MPEG-4 media	mp4
video/mpeg	MPEG media	mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1v,m1a,m75,m15,mp2,mpm,mpv,mpa
video/msvideo	Video For Windows (AVI)	avi,vfw,vfw,avi,gvi,divx,vp6
video/ogg	Ogg Video	ogv
video/quicktime	QuickTime Movie	mov,qt,mqv
video/sd-video	SD video	sdv
video/x-annodex	Annodex Video	axv
video/x-flv	Flash Video	flv
video/x-m4v	Video (protected)	m4v
video/x-mpeg	MPEG media	mpeg,mpg,m1s,m1v,m1a,m75,m15,mp2,mpm,mpv,mpa
video/x-msvideo	Video For Windows (AVI)	avi,vfw,vfw,avi,gvi,divx,vp6
video/x-nuv	NuppelVideo	nuv
video/x-ogg	Ogg Video	ogv
RealPlayer Plugin.plugin
RealPlayer Plugin — from file “RealPlayer Plugin.plugin”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
audio/x-pn-realaudio	RealPlayer Metafile	ram
audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin	RealMedia	rm
Shockwave Flash
Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102 — from file “Flash Player.plugin”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
application/futuresplash	FutureSplash Player	spl
application/x-shockwave-flash	Shockwave Flash	swf
Unity Player
Unity Web Player lets you experience dazzling interactive 3D right in your browser. For more information, visit Unity . — from file “Unity Web Player.plugin”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
application/vnd.unity	Unity Web Player Content	unity3d
Wacom Tablet Plug-In
Allows webpages to support pressure-sensitive drawing on Wacom pen tablets. — from file “WacomNetscape.plugin”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
application/x-wacom-tablet	Wacom tablet data	
WebKit built-in PDF
— from file “”.
MIME Type	Description	Extensions
application/pdf	Portable Document Format	pdf

trevor · 02-28-2013, 11:15 AM

You might want to investigate two things from that list: the ESTEID Firefox plug-in, and the Wacom Tablet Plug-In. Are they up-to-date? Have problems been reported by others? What happens if, as a test, you try uninstalling them--does that fix the issues you are seeing?

Also, you should update the Flip4Mac plugin--version 2.4.4.2 is available and runs well on OS X 10.6.8.

Trevor

vanakaru · 03-02-2013, 01:24 AM

Thanks, Trevor.
I went through the plugins. Deleted Wacom, that I do not have installed any longer, updated Flip4Mac and ID card software.
It seems to be a bit better.

uzapuca · 03-02-2013, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanakaru

Code:

EstEID Firefox plug-in Allows digital signing with Estonian ID cards — from file “esteidfirefoxplugin.bundle”. MIME Type Description Extensions application/x-digidoc EstEID Firefox plug-in Flip4Mac Windows Media Plugin 2.2........

How do you copy that extensions log? I am having the same problems with Safari. The Beach Ball of death is everytime now.

I will try deleting cache from ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari now.

vanakaru · 03-03-2013, 01:53 AM

Thanks to the suggestions here Safari is better overall. Right now with this page open only the CPU is 1-2%.

I have watched what sites would cause the worst performance. Facebook timeline is the one that raves Safari web content(activity monitor) over 100% immediately. It is somewhat understandable with all the crap people try to show me. But it goes very bad fast, so when I type something the characters will appear in 1/2 to 1 sec delay. Not to talk about scrolling.

vanakaru · 03-03-2013, 12:00 PM

I did careful examination of processes when browsing Facebook. Little Snitch monitor shows me that twitter.adlesse.com is sending/receiving packages every second, maybe more. So after searching for this domain I found it belongs to Cleaner Youtube extension and is a statistics collector. After uninstalling clen.r videos Youtube extension my Facebook does not hang any more.
So go through you Safari extensions as well. Some may be a nasty little buggers under the innocent name.

02-26-2013, 02:23 AM	#1
vanakaru All Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 610	Safari slow and bloated. Why? It has gone from bad to worse in a year maybe. Browsing pages is slow, scrolling responds with half second delay. When I look in Activity Monitor Safari takes 120-150%CPU even if I do not touch anything on Facebook. Youtube videos do not play or are jittery, sometimes Tube page does not load properly. I tried Camino that is slightly better, but rather similar. Now Opera works really well. CPU is 4-5% idle and 35% max on the same facebook page that raves safary to 150%. I could happily start using Opera from now on, but I wonder if there is something odd with my system to bloat Safari so bad. MBP 4.1 2,6ghz 512VRAM 4gbRAM SSD, OS X 10.6.8

02-27-2013, 03:34 AM	#4
vanakaru All Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 610	I do clean with Onyx when I get really frustrated. It does not help. Last edited by vanakaru; 02-27-2013 at 03:52 AM.

02-28-2013, 11:15 AM	#9
trevor Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Boulder, CO USA Posts: 19,549	You might want to investigate two things from that list: the ESTEID Firefox plug-in, and the Wacom Tablet Plug-In. Are they up-to-date? Have problems been reported by others? What happens if, as a test, you try uninstalling them--does that fix the issues you are seeing? Also, you should update the Flip4Mac plugin--version 2.4.4.2 is available and runs well on OS X 10.6.8. Trevor __________________ How to ask questions the smart way

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02-26-2013, 11:03 AM	#2
arpad Prospect Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 40	Try clearing the cache for a start .

02-26-2013, 12:06 PM	#3
ricede All Star Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: India Posts: 505	Have you tried logging into the Guest a/c & trying Safari in that. ( If you want admin access you will have to set up a new separate a/c ) To setup the guest a/c ( if not already done ) - go to System prefs / Accounts. Click the padlock, enter password, click on Guest a/c and enable. Then log out from your a/c & login to Guest a/c. That will at least will tell you if the problem is in your home user files.

02-27-2013, 04:55 AM	#5
benwiggy League Commissioner Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,039	I had a problem with Safari, and manually deleting ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari improved matters. Deleting the caches with Onyx or with Safari's Developer menu didn't work.

02-28-2013, 05:22 AM	#7
Jamie.11 Prospect Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 1	I think you should try clearing all of your cookies, history, cache, etc. and then restart. See if that works.

03-02-2013, 01:24 AM	#10
vanakaru All Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 610	Thanks, Trevor. I went through the plugins. Deleted Wacom, that I do not have installed any longer, updated Flip4Mac and ID card software. It seems to be a bit better.

03-03-2013, 01:53 AM	#12
vanakaru All Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 610	Thanks to the suggestions here Safari is better overall. Right now with this page open only the CPU is 1-2%. I have watched what sites would cause the worst performance. Facebook timeline is the one that raves Safari web content(activity monitor) over 100% immediately. It is somewhat understandable with all the crap people try to show me. But it goes very bad fast, so when I type something the characters will appear in 1/2 to 1 sec delay. Not to talk about scrolling.

03-03-2013, 12:00 PM	#13
vanakaru All Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 610	I did careful examination of processes when browsing Facebook. Little Snitch monitor shows me that twitter.adlesse.com is sending/receiving packages every second, maybe more. So after searching for this domain I found it belongs to Cleaner Youtube extension and is a statistics collector. After uninstalling clen.r videos Youtube extension my Facebook does not hang any more. So go through you Safari extensions as well. Some may be a nasty little buggers under the innocent name.