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Old 01-08-2013, 01:10 PM   #1
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Umlaut j in Word 2011 or TextEdit

Umlauted j?

I want to type a lowercase j surmounted by an umlaut--thus, a j with two dots rather than one. In Mac Word 2011, it doesn't seem possible. In fact, I don't find the character that I need in Character Viewer or in the Unicode tables at http://www.unicode.org/charts/ either. Still, some guy is using it in his name and I'd like to figure out how to type it. Ideas?

I thought I might be able to place an umlaut above Unicode 0237 (lowercase dotless j in the Unicode Latin Extended-B series). No dice, even in TextEdit. Starting from the US keyboard layout, I entered a dead-key umlaut (Opt-u) and then switched keyboards to Unicode Hex Input layout to add the dotless j, but my dead-key umlaut vanished as I changed from one layout to the other.

Sidebar question: Does umlauted j actually exist in some language?
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:02 PM   #2
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Hmmmm, it didn't work correctly for me, but supposedly you should be able to do this with Option-U, then hit j. I get šj which I see as the umlaut adjacent to a normal lowercase j.

J isn't normally umlautted I guess.

Trivia from the link above--the dot above a lowercase i or j is called a tittle.

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Old 01-08-2013, 03:16 PM   #3
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Yes, it seems that the OS has "rules" that prevent an umlaut over a j, probably because they don't really go together, despite the way that Mr. Bjorklund chooses to represent his name. The "rules" made me attempt the Unicode workaround, but apparently that's not possible either.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:15 PM   #4
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That's terrible! How are you supposed to properly represent Spinal Tap's name?

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Old 01-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by macosnoob
despite the way that Mr. Bjorklund chooses to represent his name

I've googled a bit and have found no other mention (image or text) where his name has an umlaut on the J.
His name usually appears with an umlaut on the O. (See e.g. IMDB or Wikipedia pages)

I suspect that the names in the image you supplied were added afterwards by someone else and they did it incorrectly.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:46 PM   #6
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Hayne, you're probably right, but I've figured it out anyway.

"Combining character" is what I'm after. In any Unicode-compliant application, with the Unicode keyboard layout active:

Opt-0237 (to generate dotless j, then . . .)
Opt-0308 (to place the umlaut over the preceding character)

You can type the Unicodes in either order, but the alignment of the upper element over the lower one differs depending on the order. Examples in Word are below: (1) 0237 followed by 0308; (2) 0308 followed by 0237. Some fonts seems to work better than others and some don't appear to work at all.

My editor is going to hate me.
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