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Old 09-13-2012, 02:18 PM   #1
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how long before iphone maps (ios maps) start recodring our adress searches.

Hi, how long before iphone maps (ios maps) start recording our address searches?
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:55 PM   #2
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Are you really interested in that as a feature?
Do you mean, for free? Or, would you be willing to pay for it?

Or, is this just a rhetorical question?

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Old 09-13-2012, 03:55 PM   #3
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Eight years, three months, eleven days, six hours, seventeen minutes, and twenty-three seconds after the most recent time you read this.

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Old 09-13-2012, 04:15 PM   #4
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I thought the question was meant more in the manner of, "How soon until Apple is tracking our location searches." If so, the most prudent approach is to assume they'll do it immediately.
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:39 AM   #5
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Eight years, three months, eleven days, six hours, seventeen minutes, and twenty-three seconds after the most recent time you read this. Trevor

This is an incorrect statement , the correct answer should be

Eight years, three months, nine days, six hours, seventeen minutes, and twenty-three seconds after the most recent time you read this.

(You forgot to adjust for the fact that 2016 and 2020 are leap years). If you are going to be a troll , at least be one that can add correctly.


PS: Yes I do mean how long until I/we/you believe that Apple will be going the Google route and logging all of our information including places we search directions too. I was hoping hta tsomeone had an article or something about Apple collecting this information.

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Old 09-14-2012, 06:38 AM   #6
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Yes I do mean how long until I/we/you believe that Apple will be going the Google route and logging all of our information including places we search directions too.

Apple has no reason to collect this information. Google has every reason to.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:08 PM   #7
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This seems like a discussion more than a help request, so I'm moving it to the Coat Room.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:58 PM   #8
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Hi, how long before iphone maps (ios maps) start recording our address searches?

I can fairly confidentially say that no Apple phone will ever record my address searches.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:37 AM   #9
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Hi, Big Brother here.
Information about what you do is not very interesting, useful or profitable.

Information about what people do is very interesting, useful and profitable.

The fact that you went to 26 Acacia Avenue last night is of no interest to companies or government. The fact that 200 people went to a party there is of great interest, as we can sell you a case of Barcadi if you run out, and question you all about crime in the area.

However, between CCTV, ANPR, FaceBook, Google, Location Services, ISP logging, things done "for security purposes" and so much more, you should assume that everything you do online and outside your home is likely to be seen by someone else. And, generally, people behave better when they think people know who they are.

PS: Am I missing something? What's happening in ...err.... 2021 ?

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Old 09-15-2012, 07:17 AM   #10
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I'd wager a guess that it's already being done.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:05 PM   #11
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The fact that you went to 26 Acacia Avenue last night is of no interest to companies or government.

Unless someone got shot there last night - and the government and/or the victim's lawyers are looking for witnesses, "people of interest" or someone to sue - none of which are someone you wish to be identified as.
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:12 AM   #12
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Indeed, as I noted. Though it may also be possible to establish your presence there without technology, or using other technologies. Does the method matter?

Any technological advancement can be used for things you like and things you don't like. Mostly, this is because people (and therefore companies and governments) do things that you like and don't like, rather than any inherent problem with the technology.

Already on FaceBook, I am continually updated with the location of (some of) my friends. How long before such a state of affairs is considered the norm? "Where's Fred?" "Hang on, I'll just find out."
And it's a short step from only my friends having this information to it being publicly available, or until my boss can check I'm really at the conference.

IBM have been working for some time on pattern recognition in CCTV to identify "suspicious behaviour" -- loitering, circuitous paths, timidity, etc, -- and I'd be surprised if such technology wasn't already being used at airports to flag potential trouble to operators.
How much longer before facial recognition through CCTV can track our movements from one camera to the next? (I think I've even seen this on some TV show.)

Now of course, despite any protocols and penalties for mis-use, people with access to the data are going to follow their ex-wives or the object of their obsession, or pass data onto criminals. But "people might mis-use it" is rarely a reason for denying a technological advance.

Should there be safeguards? Yes, of course. Do I think that Apple has unlawful or nefarious plans for the data it has on me, such as my location or phone number? No.
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