10.2.2 is out

retcynnm · 11-11-2002, 05:55 PM

10.2.2 is now available via Software Update. Install on my PBG4 400 went fine (of course, there are no spaces in any of my hard drives names), though optimization seemed to take much longer than usual.

BraindeadMac · 11-11-2002, 06:16 PM

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	Originally posted by retcynnm 10.2.2 is now available via Software Update. Install on my PBG4 400 went fine (of course, there are no spaces in any of my hard drives names), though optimization seemed to take much longer than usual.

Yeap, Mail.app is now broken on my PBG4 550....Crashes right after launch....

alaninabox · 11-11-2002, 07:30 PM

Yeah the optimization did take quite a long time on my PBG4 800. My mail.app works just fine though.

rusto · 11-11-2002, 07:31 PM

Went in fine on my G3/350...

Craig R. Arko · 11-11-2002, 07:35 PM

Is good on my B&W as well; BraindeadMac, had you moved Mail.app from the default location in /Applications?

Rod76 · 11-11-2002, 07:38 PM

Since where on the subject of 10.2.2 is it worth it for non servers to utilize the new journaled file system option or does it require you to format first..... I realize there is a performance hit using it, but as crazy as i am with my box the power button has been my only option more times then I'd care to admit....

Chris...... (sudo reboot is your friend......)

BraindeadMac · 11-11-2002, 07:39 PM

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	Originally posted by Craig R. Arko Is good on my B&W as well; BraindeadMac, had you moved Mail.app from the default location in /Applications?

Nope, I'm not a fan of moving /Applications or anything that goes in it. My /Users is on a separate volume, but that's the case on both machines I've upgraded so far. Installation on dual 1.25 went fine and Mail.app works fine on it....

And for once, it looks like sendmail didn't get trashed!

silicondiode · 11-11-2002, 07:56 PM

on my iBook - 10.2.2 (6F21) i cannot do the following now....

- Remote Login won't start (hangs on starting...)
- Windows File Sharing refuses to start (although smbd and nmbd can be started via SWAT, or so i think...)
- regardless of its on/off setting, everything in the Firewall panel is greyed out. (yes the panel is unlocked - and upon closer inspection, the firewall appears to be ON when OFF and OFF when ON... - no wait, maybe not.... grr...)

yuck.

BraindeadMac · 11-11-2002, 08:01 PM

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	Originally posted by BraindeadMac Nope, I'm not a fan of moving /Applications or anything that goes in it. My /Users is on a separate volume, but that's the case on both machines I've upgraded so far. Installation on dual 1.25 went fine and Mail.app works fine on it.... And for once, it looks like sendmail didn't get trashed!

Fixed this mail.app crash by deleting com.apple.mail.plist in ~/Library/Preferences

BraindeadMac · 11-11-2002, 08:14 PM

Wow, I thought it was bad when I mail.app crashed. Now I can no longer change any Internet settings (System Preferences crashes), can't change any Sharing or Network preferences (the little "click here" lock stays locked and nothing happens when you click it)

In fact it looks like I can't change any System Preferences which require unlocking to change.

Note, this is my Admin account and I never kept any of the settings locked.

Way to go Apple--you've successfully emulated Microsoft!

silicondiode · 11-11-2002, 08:30 PM

i'm running "Verify Disk Permissions" presently and it's not finding a whole hell of a lot wrong with my / partition.

update on SSH - a quick and dirty fix to get it running is to start sshd via command line as root.

NO sharing prefs are saved across reboots. i usually have SSH, SMB, WWW & FTP turned on...

WWW turns on via Sharing Prefs.

BTW - i run my Users folders on a seperate partition and Mail.app runs fine, a little extra peppy, too...

mervTormel · 11-11-2002, 08:45 PM

people, examine your system and console logs to look for clues.

BraindeadMac · 11-11-2002, 09:08 PM

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	Originally posted by mervTormel people, examine your system and console logs to look for clues.

There's nothing in my system or console logs with any pertinent error message. Actually there aren't any error messages in either!

On the other hand, diskutil is much improved. Apparently you can enable journaling by issuing:

Code:

sudo diskutil enableJournal /

to enable journaling on your / drive. You can change that to the /dev/disk?s? for whichever disk you want to enable journaling. Haven't figured out how to to recover journals yet....

silicondiode · 11-11-2002, 09:11 PM

console reports this for SSH:

/System/Library/StartupItems/SSH/SSH: /etc/hostconfig: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `encoding="UTF-8"?>'
/System/Library/StartupItems/SSH/SSH: /etc/hostconfig: line 1: `<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>'

looking at a hostconfig file from 10.2, those lines shouldn't be there, right? the hostconfig i'm looking at isn't a backup but a stock 10.2 i keep off-world for emergencies. should i drop its hostconfig in and redo my networking?

mervTormel · 11-11-2002, 09:27 PM

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	Originally posted by silicondiode console reports this for SSH: /System/Library/StartupItems/SSH/SSH: /etc/hostconfig: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `encoding="UTF-8"?>' /System/Library/StartupItems/SSH/SSH: /etc/hostconfig: line 1: `<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>' looking at a hostconfig file from 10.2, those lines shouldn't be there, right? the hostconfig i'm looking at isn't a backup but a stock 10.2 i keep off-world for emergencies. should i drop its hostconfig in and redo my networking?

right. aye.

silicondiode · 11-11-2002, 09:42 PM

y'see i check Windows 2000 logs all day long, so when i get home, log files are the last thing i think to look at........

thanks again.

mervTormel · 11-11-2002, 10:04 PM

logs are your friends, often, the only clue. though recondite at times, they're worth noting and reconnoitering.

as for braindead, hmm, did your syslogd blow up? look for syslogd in your process table.

i'm getting disturbing netinfo errors...

Nov 11 19:00:18 gunther nidump: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping

can anyone get this to squawk?

% nidump passwd .

hangs here with above log message

genimac · 11-11-2002, 10:14 PM

Actualization works well on my iMac 400, optimization seems slow as noted but all works well.

silicondiode · 11-11-2002, 10:21 PM

i got the following during the FPC...

2002-11-11 20:20:27 -0500 - Verification of privileges has started
We are using special permissions for the file or directory ./System/Library/Filesystems/hfs.fs/hfs.util. New permissions are 33261
Permissions differ on ./private/etc/hostconfig, should be -r--r--r-- , they are -rw-r--r--
Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Clean, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw-------
Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Store.224, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw-------
Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Store.256, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw-------
Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Store.320, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw-------
Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Store.352, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw-------
Group differs on ./private/var/run/utmp, should be 0, group is 1
User differs on ./usr/libexec/cups/filter, should be 0, owner is 501
Group differs on ./usr/libexec/cups/filter, should be 0, group is 20
Permissions differ on ./Library/Application Support, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
Permissions differ on ./Library/Documentation, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
User differs on ./usr/libexec/cups/filter, should be 0, owner is 501
Group differs on ./usr/libexec/cups/filter, should be 0, group is 20
User differs on ./usr/share/cups/model, should be 0, owner is 501
Group differs on ./usr/share/cups/model, should be 0, group is 20
User differs on ./usr/share/cups, should be 0, owner is 501
Group differs on ./usr/share/cups, should be 0, group is 20
Permissions differ on ./Library/Documentation, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
Permissions differ on ./usr/share/man/man3/DB.3, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -r--r--r--
Permissions differ on ./usr/share/man/man3/DB.3, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -r--r--r--
Permissions differ on ./Library/Documentation, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
Permissions differ on ./Library/Application Support/Adobe/TypeSpt, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
Permissions differ on ./Library/Application Support/Adobe, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
Permissions differ on ./Library/Application Support, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
User differs on ./Library/Documentation/Acrobat Read Me/ReadMe.html, should be 0, owner is 501
Group differs on ./Library/Documentation/Acrobat Read Me/ReadMe.html, should be 80, group is 0
Permissions differ on ./Library/Documentation, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx
2002-11-11 20:43:41 -0500 - The privileges have been verified on the selected volume.

but i'm not seeing any problems since i got myself back on my feet. i enabled Journaling:

Code:

sudo diskutil enableJournal /

and i've been knocking around for an hour now, waiting for this rumored (FUD if you ask me) 10% performance hit... all seems spiffy.

baryonyx · 11-11-2002, 11:09 PM

Through the years I've come to understand that 10% performance hits/gains aren't particularly noticeable from a human perspective. Seems like we only really notice with 30% or more.

Andy

11-11-2002, 05:55 PM	#1
retcynnm Triple-A Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 244	10.2.2 is out 10.2.2 is now available via Software Update. Install on my PBG4 400 went fine (of course, there are no spaces in any of my hard drives names), though optimization seemed to take much longer than usual.

11-11-2002, 07:30 PM	#3
alaninabox Prospect Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 19	Long optimization time Yeah the optimization did take quite a long time on my PBG4 800. My mail.app works just fine though.

11-11-2002, 07:31 PM	#4
rusto MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,489	Went in fine on my G3/350... __________________ :: 3.4GHz Core i7 iMac 4GB RAM :: Black MacBook SR :: 10.7.2 :: iPhone 4 / iOS 5 ::

11-11-2002, 07:38 PM	#6
Rod76 Triple-A Player Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Irving Tx Posts: 143	Since where on the subject of 10.2.2 is it worth it for non servers to utilize the new journaled file system option or does it require you to format first..... I realize there is a performance hit using it, but as crazy as i am with my box the power button has been my only option more times then I'd care to admit.... Chris...... (sudo reboot is your friend......) __________________ Die First, Then Quit

11-11-2002, 07:56 PM	#8
silicondiode Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 252	Sharing hosed now..... on my iBook - 10.2.2 (6F21) i cannot do the following now.... - Remote Login won't start (hangs on starting...) - Windows File Sharing refuses to start (although smbd and nmbd can be started via SWAT, or so i think...) - regardless of its on/off setting, everything in the Firewall panel is greyed out. (yes the panel is unlocked - and upon closer inspection, the firewall appears to be ON when OFF and OFF when ON... - no wait, maybe not.... grr...) yuck.

11-11-2002, 07:35 PM	#5
Craig R. Arko Site Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,988	Is good on my B&W as well; BraindeadMac, had you moved Mail.app from the default location in /Applications?

11-11-2002, 08:14 PM	#10
BraindeadMac Triple-A Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Little Rock Posts: 147	Holy , Batman Wow, I thought it was bad when I mail.app crashed. Now I can no longer change any Internet settings (System Preferences crashes), can't change any Sharing or Network preferences (the little "click here" lock stays locked and nothing happens when you click it) In fact it looks like I can't change any System Preferences which require unlocking to change. Note, this is my Admin account and I never kept any of the settings locked. Way to go Apple--you've successfully emulated Microsoft!

11-11-2002, 08:30 PM	#11
silicondiode Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 252	Disk permissions check - nada i'm running "Verify Disk Permissions" presently and it's not finding a whole hell of a lot wrong with my / partition. update on SSH - a quick and dirty fix to get it running is to start sshd via command line as root. NO sharing prefs are saved across reboots. i usually have SSH, SMB, WWW & FTP turned on... WWW turns on via Sharing Prefs. BTW - i run my Users folders on a seperate partition and Mail.app runs fine, a little extra peppy, too...

11-11-2002, 08:45 PM	#12
mervTormel League Commissioner Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,536	people, examine your system and console logs to look for clues.

11-11-2002, 09:11 PM	#14
silicondiode Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 252	and then console reports this for SSH: /System/Library/StartupItems/SSH/SSH: /etc/hostconfig: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `encoding="UTF-8"?>' /System/Library/StartupItems/SSH/SSH: /etc/hostconfig: line 1: `<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>' looking at a hostconfig file from 10.2, those lines shouldn't be there, right? the hostconfig i'm looking at isn't a backup but a stock 10.2 i keep off-world for emergencies. should i drop its hostconfig in and redo my networking? Last edited by silicondiode; 11-11-2002 at 09:20 PM.

11-11-2002, 09:42 PM	#16
silicondiode Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 252	restore hostconfig - all is groovy again y'see i check Windows 2000 logs all day long, so when i get home, log files are the last thing i think to look at........ thanks again.

11-11-2002, 10:04 PM	#17
mervTormel League Commissioner Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,536	logs are your friends, often, the only clue. though recondite at times, they're worth noting and reconnoitering. as for braindead, hmm, did your syslogd blow up? look for syslogd in your process table. i'm getting disturbing netinfo errors... Nov 11 19:00:18 gunther nidump: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping can anyone get this to squawk? % nidump passwd . hangs here with above log message __________________ On a clear disk, you can seek forever.

11-11-2002, 10:14 PM	#18
genimac Prospect Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Barcelona spain Posts: 32	Actualization works well on my iMac 400, optimization seems slow as noted but all works well.

11-11-2002, 10:21 PM	#19
silicondiode Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 252	speaking of netinfo errors... i got the following during the FPC... 2002-11-11 20:20:27 -0500 - Verification of privileges has started We are using special permissions for the file or directory ./System/Library/Filesystems/hfs.fs/hfs.util. New permissions are 33261 Permissions differ on ./private/etc/hostconfig, should be -r--r--r-- , they are -rw-r--r-- Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Clean, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw------- Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Store.224, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw------- Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Store.256, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw------- Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Store.320, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw------- Permissions differ on ./private/var/db/netinfo/local.nidb/Store.352, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -rw------- Group differs on ./private/var/run/utmp, should be 0, group is 1 User differs on ./usr/libexec/cups/filter, should be 0, owner is 501 Group differs on ./usr/libexec/cups/filter, should be 0, group is 20 Permissions differ on ./Library/Application Support, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx Permissions differ on ./Library/Documentation, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx User differs on ./usr/libexec/cups/filter, should be 0, owner is 501 Group differs on ./usr/libexec/cups/filter, should be 0, group is 20 User differs on ./usr/share/cups/model, should be 0, owner is 501 Group differs on ./usr/share/cups/model, should be 0, group is 20 User differs on ./usr/share/cups, should be 0, owner is 501 Group differs on ./usr/share/cups, should be 0, group is 20 Permissions differ on ./Library/Documentation, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx Permissions differ on ./usr/share/man/man3/DB.3, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -r--r--r-- Permissions differ on ./usr/share/man/man3/DB.3, should be -rw-r--r-- , they are -r--r--r-- Permissions differ on ./Library/Documentation, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx Permissions differ on ./Library/Application Support/Adobe/TypeSpt, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx Permissions differ on ./Library/Application Support/Adobe, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx Permissions differ on ./Library/Application Support, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx User differs on ./Library/Documentation/Acrobat Read Me/ReadMe.html, should be 0, owner is 501 Group differs on ./Library/Documentation/Acrobat Read Me/ReadMe.html, should be 80, group is 0 Permissions differ on ./Library/Documentation, should be drwxrwxr-x , they are drwxrwxrwx 2002-11-11 20:43:41 -0500 - The privileges have been verified on the selected volume. but i'm not seeing any problems since i got myself back on my feet. i enabled Journaling: Code: sudo diskutil enableJournal / and i've been knocking around for an hour now, waiting for this rumored (FUD if you ask me) 10% performance hit... all seems spiffy.

11-11-2002, 11:09 PM	#20
baryonyx Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 300	Through the years I've come to understand that 10% performance hits/gains aren't particularly noticeable from a human perspective. Seems like we only really notice with 30% or more. Andy