Newbie switching to OSX...which resource?

tunanut · 09-10-2002, 04:45 PM

Finally got the nerve up to begin learning unix and unlearning the simplicity of the 'classic' os. can anyone recommend a good site and/or book (pogue's is still on os 10.1) on the nuts and bolts/ ins and outs of moving to 10.2 from 9.2. Much thanks!

thanks/t.

nkuvu · 09-10-2002, 06:15 PM

Actually, I think that this is one of the best sites for what you want.

There's ton to read here, and if you can't find what you're looking for, just ask.

darkpaw · 09-10-2002, 07:04 PM

Check out the Help Center in 10.2. There's loads of getting started info there for you, and the manual that comes with the retail bx is simple enough to help get you started.

Just wanted to add that moving from the Classic Mac OS to OS X 10.2 doesn't necessarily mean you have to un-learn Classic and learn Unix.

Apple have done an excellent job of providing users with the neat and simple front-end (the Aqua interface), which means you may never have to understand the Unix foundations that OS X is built upon.

Sure, there are times when you may need to go into the Terminal, but not for anything major. I only use mine to log into my mates' machines to correct their problems, or to delete a file that I don't have access rights for. Other than that, you stay on the Aqua surface.

The only things you have to un-learn about Classic are:

1. Setting memory bounds for applications;
2. Worrying about crashes that bring your whole system down;
3. Filing your documents and pictures all over the place.

All in all, my install of OS X 10.2 is excellent and I'd vertainly never go back to OS 9.

tunanut · 09-11-2002, 10:00 AM

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	Originally posted by nkuvu Actually, I think that this is one of the best sites for what you want. There's ton to read here, and if you can't find what you're looking for, just ask.

thanks for the nice welcome. my main query to start off with is the first step. a 'genius' at the apple store nearby suggested re initializing hard drive(s) before installing 10.2. is there are reall advantage to this over let say optimzing? i guess since it seem partitioning is the ideal choice of installing 10x that the question is moot, just wondering others thoughts on the two options.

thanks./t

Jacques · 09-11-2002, 11:27 AM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned..

When I was about to jump into the Puma fray, I found an excellent article that thoroughly prepared me for the switch. I can't recommend it enough, keep an eye on it - there may be an update shortly for Jaguar!

Jacques

tunanut · 09-11-2002, 12:03 PM

Looks great, J. Maybe this little gem should be posted at the top of the System heap for newbies to read before running after the spotted kitty.

/t

tunanut · 09-11-2002, 12:05 PM

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	Originally posted by darkpaw snip..... The only things you have to un-learn about Classic are: 1. Setting memory bounds for applications; 2. Worrying about crashes that bring your whole system down; 3. Filing your documents and pictures all over the place. All in all, my install of OS X 10.2 is excellent and I'd vertainly never go back to OS 9.

uh, ok. sounds hopefull. but geez, i STILL feel like i'm learning new things about classic shortcuts, etc.

t/

bassi · 09-11-2002, 12:32 PM

A good book, which will probably be updated soon, is MacOSX Unleashed, by J.Ray and W.Ray.
I'm halfway through playing and learning their Unix section and it's quite good. Enjoy the new OS.

Jacques · 09-11-2002, 02:02 PM

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	Originally posted by bassi A good book, which will probably be updated soon, is MacOSX Unleashed, by J.Ray and W.Ray.

There is no other book that comes even close, it's a thick one though! I just wrote to W.Ray, here's the transcript:

> Thanks for the great work, Unleashed is definitive!

Thanks so much for the kind words - we're rather proud of the book despite problems we had getting it put together.

> Are you working on an update to the book now that Jaguar is here?

Considerably harder than we would like to! Apple has managed to change lots of little details with Jaguar that are making life difficult for us, but we're hoping to have the 2nd edition on shelves by the end of the year.

Will Ray

There you have it, an update should be available soon!

Jacques

09-10-2002, 04:45 PM	#1
tunanut Prospect Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston, CONN Posts: 12	Newbie switching to OSX...which resource? Finally got the nerve up to begin learning unix and unlearning the simplicity of the 'classic' os. can anyone recommend a good site and/or book (pogue's is still on os 10.1) on the nuts and bolts/ ins and outs of moving to 10.2 from 9.2. Much thanks! thanks/t. Last edited by tunanut; 09-10-2002 at 04:55 PM.

09-10-2002, 07:04 PM	#3
darkpaw All Star Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: England Posts: 513	Small learning curve... Check out the Help Center in 10.2. There's loads of getting started info there for you, and the manual that comes with the retail bx is simple enough to help get you started. Just wanted to add that moving from the Classic Mac OS to OS X 10.2 doesn't necessarily mean you have to un-learn Classic and learn Unix. Apple have done an excellent job of providing users with the neat and simple front-end (the Aqua interface), which means you may never have to understand the Unix foundations that OS X is built upon. Sure, there are times when you may need to go into the Terminal, but not for anything major. I only use mine to log into my mates' machines to correct their problems, or to delete a file that I don't have access rights for. Other than that, you stay on the Aqua surface. The only things you have to un-learn about Classic are: 1. Setting memory bounds for applications; 2. Worrying about crashes that bring your whole system down; 3. Filing your documents and pictures all over the place. All in all, my install of OS X 10.2 is excellent and I'd vertainly never go back to OS 9. __________________ http://www.keeponfighting.net - Fighting for animal rights http://www.darkpaw.co.uk http://www.needstuff.co.uk - Recycle your unwanted clutter for FREE! (UK only)

09-11-2002, 11:27 AM	#5
Jacques All Star Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 972	The Guidebook I'm surprised no one has mentioned.. When I was about to jump into the Puma fray, I found an excellent article that thoroughly prepared me for the switch. I can't recommend it enough, keep an eye on it - there may be an update shortly for Jaguar! Jacques

09-10-2002, 06:15 PM	#2
nkuvu MVP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 1,236	Actually, I think that this is one of the best sites for what you want. There's ton to read here, and if you can't find what you're looking for, just ask.

09-11-2002, 12:03 PM	#6
tunanut Prospect Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston, CONN Posts: 12	Looks great, J. Maybe this little gem should be posted at the top of the System heap for newbies to read before running after the spotted kitty. /t

09-11-2002, 12:32 PM	#8
bassi Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Paris, France Posts: 498	A good book, which will probably be updated soon, is MacOSX Unleashed, by J.Ray and W.Ray. I'm halfway through playing and learning their Unix section and it's quite good. Enjoy the new OS.