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Old 09-09-2002, 02:39 PM   #1
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Jaguar News:Upgrading Fink for Mac OS X 10.2

Latest news, please follow the instruccions here:


http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/jaguar.php


Cheers...

PS: If you have questions, let me know.
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Old 09-09-2002, 06:18 PM   #2
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thanks, sao. i really enjoy fink's facility. i even enjoy it when it's broke'd. it gives me a sense of how incredibly intricate these systems are and we should be in awe that they work at all. huzzah, physics!
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Old 09-09-2002, 11:54 PM   #3
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thx for the tip sao - followed the instructions at http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/jaguar.php

(took about 5 hrs) and when I got to the last step - I ran into problems. Do you have any ideas?

Code:
[g4:/finkcvs/fink] root#   fink update-all
Information about 1250 packages read in 2 seconds.


fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The
candidates:

(1)  kdelibs3-ssl-dev: KDE - development headers and libraries for kdelibs3
(2)  kdelibs3-dev: KDE - development headers and libraries for kdelibs3

Pick one: [1] 

fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The
candidates:

(1)  kdebase3-ssl-dev: KDE - base system
(2)  kdebase3-dev: KDE - base system

Pick one: [1] 
Failed: Internal error: node for openssl-shlibs already exists
I also tried select [2] above and got the same error.
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Old 09-10-2002, 01:10 AM   #4
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Bluehz,

Yes, this is the infamous "node for packagename already exists" problem. Fink it is not intelligent enough yet to replace the earlier dependence on an older version by the newer one. This usually happens whenever a lot of packages need updating.

To get out from this problem, first you should run 'fink rebuild openssl'

(and 'fink reinstall openssl-shlibs' if it doesn't do it automatically).

Then, try running again 'fink update-all'.

or

The other way to do it (rather tedious) is by individual fink update commands of all the other packages, as usually it can finally be brought to work again when cutting the number of packages down to a sufficiently small number.

Let me know.


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Old 09-10-2002, 01:17 AM   #5
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MervTormel,

Yes, an incredible amount of dedication and effort is going into Fink and the packages. I have only admiration and a lot of respect for the developers.


Cheers...
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Old 09-10-2002, 02:42 AM   #6
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thx Sao - I'll try that and see what happens.

I am having a great deal of fun accessing my Linux box usin X-Windows that up until now I have only been using via CLI from OS X. I can't exactly say I know what I am doing with X-Windows - but I'm havin a blast and I see lots of promise.

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Old 09-11-2002, 11:24 AM   #7
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sao - took your advice, reinstalled open-ssl then did a fink-update-all. Process started Mon night and JUST finished (wed) - took over 30 hrs. Then the last line says this:

Selecting previously deselected package kdebase3-ssl-dev.
(Reading database ... 45471 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking kdebase3-ssl-dev (from .../kdebase3-ssl-dev_3.0.7-2_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdebase3-ssl-dev_3.0.7-2_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install):
trying to overwrite `/sw/lib/kde3/lockout_panelapplet.so', which is also in package kdebase3-ssl
Preparing to replace kdebase3-ssl 3.0.2-1 (using .../kdebase3-ssl_3.0.7-2_darwin-powerpc.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement kdebase3-ssl ...
Setting up kdebase3-ssl (3.0.7-2) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdebase3-ssl-dev_3.0.7-2_darwin-powerpc.deb
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
[g4:/Users/cposey] root# 3.0.7-2_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdebase3-ssl_3.0.7-2_darwin-powerpc.deb

This is starting to tweak me out! I mean for one thing it taxed my machine for over 30 hrs - then it gives me an error. Please tell me I'm not gonna have to do the 30 hr thing again!
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Old 09-11-2002, 01:00 PM   #8
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Bluehz,

Please don't give up. Just look at the quantity of files Fink handles, is says in your log (Reading database ... 45471 files and directories currently installed).

Anyhow, this is again an unsolved problem with fink's intelligence concerning upgrades. We have to use our own here and help fink by removing kdebase3-ssl first, please try running:


'dpkg -r --force-depends kdebase3-ssl'

and then:

'fink rebuild kdebase3-ssl'

If it was successful then continue with:

'fink update-all', it will go a little faster this time.

Let me know if it works.


Cheers...

Edited: ...oops...I forgot to write the '3' after kdebase-ssl...

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Old 09-11-2002, 05:35 PM   #9
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Naaah - not giving up yet - just discouraged at the error msg. Thought it was a total failure. Then I fired up XWindows and KDE came right up. Quit that and started again - this time accessing remote linux box running KDE - VERY COOL!!!

One question - every time I switch XDarwin fullscreen) to the background - it disappears (not sure if its crashing or what - no dialogs, etc - just disappears) Is that standard or is there a way to fix it so it will stay around

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Old 09-11-2002, 05:50 PM   #10
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A slightly off the track question: what version of fink should be running after doing the manual update they suggest?

Mine comes up as 0.10.0-1, with a full file list of:

pkg base-files version ###
pkg base-files version 1.6-1
pkg bzip2 version ###
pkg bzip2 version 1.0.2-1
pkg debianutils version ###
pkg debianutils version 1.16-1
pkg dpkg version ###
pkg dpkg version 1.9.20-3
pkg fink version ###
pkg fink version 0.10.0-1
pkg gettext version ###
pkg gettext version 0.10.40-3
pkg gzip version ###
pkg gzip version 1.2.4a-6
pkg libiconv version ###
pkg libiconv version 1.7-5
pkg ncurses version ###
pkg ncurses version 5.2-7
pkg tar version ###
pkg tar version 1.13.25-1
pkg apt version ###
pkg apt version 0.5.4-4
pkg apt-shlibs version ###
pkg apt-shlibs version 0.5.4-4
pkg storable-pm version ###
pkg storable-pm version 1.0.14-1

Do these match what other people have?
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Old 09-11-2002, 05:58 PM   #11
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merv- After following sao's instruction for updating all for 10.2 compatibility - I am now showing:

Package manager version: 0.10.0.cvs
Distribution version: 0.4.0.cvs

How did you get the list of installed packages?
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Old 09-11-2002, 06:01 PM   #12
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sao - I tried your suggestion above and here's what I got:

root# dpkg -r --force-depends kdebase-ssl
dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kdebase-ssl which isn't installed.
root# fink rebuild kdebase-ssl
Information about 1250 packages read in 1 seconds.

Failed: no package found for specification 'kdebase-ssl'!
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Old 09-11-2002, 06:31 PM   #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by bluehz
merv- After following sao's instruction for updating all for 10.2 compatibility - I am now showing:

Package manager version: 0.10.0.cvs
Distribution version: 0.4.0.cvs

How did you get the list of installed packages?

Craig, i think bluehz is asking you how you produced that list of pkg's

i, too, would like to know.

$ fink -V
Package manager version: 0.10.0.cvs
Distribution version: 0.4.0.cvs
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Old 09-11-2002, 06:57 PM   #14
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It comes up after running 'fink selfupdate' from cvs in a shell.

It says it's running su <username> -c 'cvs -z3 update -d -P', then shows a list of packages, says what its changing, updates fink if necessary, and prints the list of required fink core packages with versions that I listed in the earlier post, and then says "The core packages have been updated. You should now update the other packages using commands like 'fink update-all'.

Now if you ask me how it got configured this way I'll probably respond "I answered Yes to some question sometime."
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Old 09-11-2002, 08:09 PM   #15
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Will there be a new binary at some point?

Will there be an updated version of the fink binary at some point and an updated installer for 10.2 so one doesn't have to go through all this to get fink working again? Anyone know their plans?
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Old 09-11-2002, 10:19 PM   #16
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Fink version number...

According to what Ben Hines wrote at the fink-lists:

"Fink version number will be a "current cvs" version number, different depending on when you installed it. But much more is changed other than the package manager version, it does a whole upgrade giving you access to new 10.2 tree packages.

Mine is:
pkg fink version 0.10.0.cvs-20020909.0050


The fink 10.2 release is technically not yet "released" which is why you have to check out manually from CVS as the instructions state..."


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Old 09-11-2002, 10:42 PM   #17
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Bluehz,

Yes, my fault, I forgot to write the number '3' after kdebase, it should read kdebase3-ssl (I guess it was late at night).

That's why you got the error messages when you tried the commands (..."kdebase-ssl which isn't installed"...)

But wait !, you say you fired XWindows and KDE came up?

Please could you show me the result of:

'fink list --installed'


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Old 09-11-2002, 10:56 PM   #18
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PimpDaddy,

Probably, at some point they will release the binary packages, but I guess all the new packages will have to get out from unstable first. Testing the packages will help.


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Old 09-11-2002, 10:58 PM   #19
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Yes - KDE fires up with a few quirks. Some windows (mostly those Help info windows you get when you launch an app) show up stretched all the way across the screen and beyond, the TaskBar has 3 of the same widgets (where you normally have one) on the right side that cover up teh clock, and a few other anomalies. But other than that it works. Any idea why my XWindows envirn quits when I switch it to background?

[g4:~] % fink list --installed
Information about 1250 packages read in 2 seconds.

i apt 0.5.4-5 Advanced front-end for dpkg
i apt-shlibs 0.5.4-5 Advanced front-end for dpkg
i arts 1.1.0-2 KDE - analog realtime synthesizer
i arts-dev 1.1.0-2 KDE - static libraries and headers for aRts
i audiofile 0.2.3-4 Audio File Library
i audiofile-bin 0.2.3-4 Audio File Library
i audiofile-shlib 0.2.3-4 Audio File Library
i autoconf25 2.53-1 System for generating configure scripts
i automake 1.6.3-1 Makefile generator
i base-files 1.6-1 Directory infrastructure
(i) bundle-kde-ssl 3.0.7-2 KDE convenience package: KDE 3.1 (SSL sup...
i bzip2 1.0.2-1 Block-sorting file compressor
i cups 1.1.14-1 Cross-platform printing solution
i darwin 6.0-1 [virtual package representing the kernel]
i db3 3.3.11-8 Berkeley DB embedded database
i db3-shlibs 3.3.11-8 Shared Libraries for db3
i debianutils 1.16-1 Misc. utilities specific to Debian (and F...
i dlcompat 20020709-2 Dynamic loading compatibility library
i docbook-dsssl-n 1.77-1 Norman Walsh's DSSSL DocBook stylesheets.
i docbook-dtd 4.1.2-3 DocBook SGML/XML DTDs official releases
i dpkg 1.9.20-4 The Debian package manager
i efax 0.9a-001114 Simple FAX utility
i esound 0.2.28-1 Enlightened Sound Daemon
i esound-bin 0.2.28-1 Enlightened Sound Daemon
i esound-common 0.2.28-1 Enlightened Sound Daemon
i esound-shlibs 0.2.28-1 Enlightened Sound Daemon
i expat 1.95.3-2 C library for parsing XML
i expat-shlibs 1.95.3-2 C library for parsing XML
i fink 0.10.0.cvs- The Fink package manager
i fluxbox 0.1.10-2 Another Window Manager not unlike blackbox.
i freetype2 2.0.8-4 TrueType font rendering library, version 2
i freetype2-shlib 2.0.8-4 TrueType font rendering library, version ...
i gdbm 1.8.0-6 GNU dbm library
i gdbm-shlibs 1.8.0-6 GNU dbm library
i gettext 0.10.40-3 Message localization support
i ghostscript 7.04-1 Interpreter for PostScript and PDF.
i ghostscript-fon 6.0-3 Standard fonts for Ghostscript
i giflib 4.1.0-7 GIF image format handling library, LZW-en...
i giflib-bin 4.1.0-7 GIF image format handling library, LZW-en...
i giflib-shlibs 4.1.0-7 GIF image format handling library, LZW-en...
i glib 1.2.10-8 Common C routines used by Gtk+ and other ...
i glib-shlibs 1.2.10-8 Common C routines used by Gtk+ and other ...
i glib2 2.0.4-1 Handy library of utility functions
i glib2-dev 2.0.4-1 Handy library of utility functions
i glib2-shlibs 2.0.4-1 Handy library of utility functions
i glut 3.7-3 Opengl utility toolkit
i glut-shlibs 3.7-3 Opengl utility toolkit
i gmp 4.1-1 GNU multiple precision arithmetic library
i gmp-shlibs 4.1-1 GNU multiple precision arithmetic library
i gtk+ 1.2.10-12 The Gimp Toolkit
i gtk+-data 1.2.10-12 The Gimp Toolkit
i gtk+-shlibs 1.2.10-12 The Gimp Toolkit
i gtk-doc 0.9-4 GTK+ DocBook Documentation Generator
i gzip 1.2.4a-6 The gzip file compressor
i imlib 1.9.10-9 General image handling library for X11 an...
i imlib-shlibs 1.9.10-9 General image handling library for X11 an...
i iozone 3.94-1 Filesystem benchmark tool.
(i) kdeartwork3 3.0.7-2 KDE - additional artwork
i kdebase3-ssl 3.0.7-2 KDE - base system
i kdebindings3 3.0.2-1 KDE - Language Bindings
(i) kdeedu3 3.0.7-2 KDE - educational software
(i) kdegames3 3.0.7-2 KDE - games
(i) kdegraphics3 3.0.7-2 KDE - graphics
i kdelibs3-ssl 3.0.7-2 KDE - libraries
i kdelibs3-ssl-de 3.0.7-2 KDE - development headers and libraries f...
(i) kdenetwork3 3.0.7-2 KDE - networking
(i) kdetoys3 3.0.7-2 KDE - Toys
(i) kdeutils3 3.0.7-2 KDE - Misc. utilities
(i) kdevelop 2.1.3-2 KDE - Development IDE
(i) koffice 1.2rc1-2 KDE - Office Suite
i lame 3.92-4 MP3 encoder and graphical frame analyzer
i lame-shlibs 3.92-4 MP3 encoder and graphical frame analyzer
i lesstif 0.93.18-7 Free implementation of OSF/Motif
i lesstif-shlibs 0.93.18-7 Free implementation of OSF/Motif
i libart2 2.3.9-1 Library for high-performance 2D graphics
i libart2-shlibs 2.3.9-1 Library for high-performance 2D graphics
i libcapsinetwork 0.1.1-2 C++ daemon development library
i libcapsinetwork 0.1.1-2 static libraries and headers for libCapsi...
i libiconv 1.7-5 Character set conversion library
i libjpeg 6b-5 JPEG image format handling library
i libjpeg-bin 6b-5 JPEG image format handling library
i libjpeg-shlibs 6b-5 JPEG image format handling library
i libmath++ 0.0.3-2 C++ math library
i libmath++-dev 0.0.3-2 libmath++ development headers and libraries.
i libogg 1.0.0-1 Ogg Bitstream Library
i libogg-shlibs 1.0.0-1 Ogg Bitstream Library
i libpng 1.0.12-6 PNG image format handling library
i libpng-shlibs 1.0.12-6 PNG image format handling library
i libpoll 1.1-3 SysV poll(2) Emulation Library
i libpoll-shlibs 1.1-3 SysV poll(2) Emulation Library
i libtiff 3.5.7-7 TIFF image format library and tools
i libtiff-bin 3.5.7-7 TIFF image format library and tools
i libtiff-shlibs 3.5.7-7 TIFF image format library and tools
i libtool14 1.4.2-6 Shared library build helper, v1.4
i libtool14-shlib 1.4.2-6 Shared library build helper, v1.4
i libvorbis0 1.0-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compression Codec
i libvorbis0-shli 1.0-1 The Vorbis General Audio Compression Codec
i libxml2 2.4.23-4 XML parsing library, version 2
i libxml2-bin 2.4.23-4 XML parsing library, version 2
i libxml2-shlibs 2.4.23-4 XML parsing library, version 2
i libxslt 1.0.19-1 XML stylesheet transformation library
i libxslt-shlibs 1.0.19-1 XML stylsheet transformation shared libra...
i lynx 2.8.4-2 Console based web browser
i m4 1.4-6 Advanced macro processing language
i macosx 10.2-1 [virtual package representing the system]
i mad 0.14.2b-1 High-quality MPEG audio decoder
i mad-bin 0.14.2b-1 High-quality MPEG audio decoder
i mad-shlibs 0.14.2b-1 High-quality MPEG audio decoder
i ming 0.2a-2 C library to make SWF ("Flash") format mo...
i ming-shlibs 0.2a-2 Shared Libraries for ming
i monopd 0.5.0-3 Monopoly-like game server
i mozilla 1.1.0-2 Web browser and mail reader
i mpg123 pre0.59s-4 Real time MPEG Audio Player for Layer 1,2...
i nano 1.0.9-11 Improved clone of the Pico text editor.
i ncurses 5.2-8 Full-screen ascii drawing library
i netpbm 9.25-1 Graphics manipulation programs and libraries
i netpbm-bin 9.25-1 Graphics manipulation programs and libraries
i netpbm-shlibs 9.25-1 Graphics manipulation programs and libraries
i openjade 1.3.1-3 Implementation of DSSSL
i openssl-dev 0.9.6e-1 Secure Sockets Layer and general crypto l...
i openssl-shlibs 0.9.6e-1 Secure Sockets Layer and general crypto l...
i orbit 0.5.17-2 The CORBA ORB used in GNOME
i orbit-bin 0.5.17-2 The CORBA ORB used in GNOME
i orbit-shlibs 0.5.17-2 The CORBA ORB used in GNOME
i pcre 3.9-2 Perl Compatible Regular Expressions Library
i pcre-bin 3.9-2 Perl Compatible Regular Expressions Library
i pcre-shlibs 3.9-2 Perl Compatible Regular Expressions Library
i pkgconfig 0.12.0-1 System for managing library compile/link ...
i python 2.2.1-8 Interpreted, object-oriented language.
i qt3 3.0.5-5 Cross-Platform GUI application framework.
i qt3-shlibs 3.0.5-5 Cross-Platform GUI application framework.
i readline 4.3-5 Comfortable terminal input library
i readline-shlibs 4.3-5 Comfortable terminal input library
i screen 3.9.11-1 Multiplexes a physical terminal.
i sgml-entities-i 1986-3 SGML standard (ISO 8879) entity sets for ...
i storable-pm 1.0.14-1 Perl module for persistent data structures
i t1lib1 1.3.1-2 Generates bitmaps from Type 1 fonts.

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i t1lib1-shlibs 1.3.1-2 Shared libs for generating Type 1 Font bi...
i tar 1.13.25-1 GNU tar - tape archiver
i tcltk 8.3.4-1 Tool Command Language and the Tk toolkit.
i tcltk-dev 8.3.4-1 Tool Command Language and the Tk toolkit.
i tcltk-shlibs 8.3.4-1 Tool Command Language and the Tk toolkit.
i tidy 20020902-1 Utility to tidy up HTML code.
i type1inst 0.6.1-3 Type 1 PostScript font installation utility
i windowmaker 0.80.1-1 GNUstep (NeXT-like) Window Manager
i windowmaker-shl 0.80.1-1 GNUstep (NeXT-like) Window Manager
i xfree86-base 4.2.0.1-2 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-rootles 4.2.0.1-2 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xpdf 1.01-2 Viewer for Portable Document Format (PDF)...
i zlib 1.1.4-1 Compression library
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