Applications "broken" by Mac OS X 10.3

Phil St. Romain · 10-24-2003, 04:07 PM

Please list those you've found to either not work or not run as well as in 10.2.x

RideMan · 10-24-2003, 07:24 PM

I have not verified this...I do not have Panther.

Word on the Avid forums is that Avid Xpress DV v3.5.4 will not work on OS X.3. It is unlikely to be patched, as Avid Xpress Pro (the successor to Xpress DV) has been released, and rumor has it that Xpress Pro works fine on X.3.

wayneyoung · 10-24-2003, 07:35 PM

Netzero software does not work.

edit at Yellow's request:
Doesn't work and no Panther update.

yellow · 10-24-2003, 07:50 PM

Err.. don't work and have no Panther update, or don't work without looking for an update?

mervTormel · 10-24-2003, 08:52 PM

PTH{clock,pasteboard,itunesNotifier} are not entirely working well. grep'ing for updates has proved fruitless.

iChatStatus.prefPane
MenuMeters.prefPane

have been misbehaving.

clutter got its head wedged between the iron bars, but a little elbow grease got past its ears.

some may see anomalies with some apps that aren't really broken, just winged.

post those here, too, so we can monitor.

petey · 10-24-2003, 09:53 PM

anyone try QuicKeys on Panther?

i know it's at least slightly broken, but i'd like to find out how broken it really is.

i'm addicted to QK.

Applecore · 10-24-2003, 10:09 PM

Fetchart script for iTunes not working.

Phil St. Romain · 10-25-2003, 12:43 AM

Datebook Conduit for Palm Desktop got totally bumped. I tried copying it from my backup and it wouldn't work. I then tried reinstalling Palm Desktop and it wouldn't install--some error message about the system. I rebooted in my 10.2.8 backup on a firewire drive and reinstalled Palm Desktop on Panther; when I rebooted, everything worked fine.

It could be that the new iSync conduit for Palm had something to do with this problem.

robm · 10-25-2003, 06:55 AM

stopped functioning in Panther

yellow · 10-25-2003, 07:33 AM

Quote:


	Originally posted by Phil St. Romain Datebook Conduit for Palm Desktop got totally bumped. I tried copying it from my backup and it wouldn't work. I then tried reinstalling Palm Desktop and it wouldn't install--some error message about the system. I rebooted in my 10.2.8 backup on a firewire drive and reinstalled Palm Desktop on Panther; when I rebooted, everything worked fine. It could be that the new iSync conduit for Palm had something to do with this problem.

There was a report on the front page of MacFixIt that Palm Desktop 4.1 was broken by Panther. It seems that the work around is to copy the HotSync files from Jaguar. Apparently reinstalling from Jaguar also works. Good find!

Phil St. Romain · 10-25-2003, 11:26 AM

Copying the HotSync files didn't work for me, yellow.

I read the MFI report later and noted, too, that some people had no trouble at all. It seems the problem is widespread enough that Palm is looking into it.

fxt · 10-25-2003, 11:37 AM

copypaste-x 1.6 seems broken. when its activated i cannot type the lowercase letter "c". 100% repeatable on my rig. anyone else see this?

rbrowser 3.2.1 cannot make ssh connections, but the developed will send you version 3.3 , which does work.

and, as already well documented, psync isn't working.

fxt

yellow · 10-25-2003, 11:42 AM

Quote:


	Originally posted by Phil St. Romain Copying the HotSync files didn't work for me, yellow. I read the MFI report later and noted, too, that some people had no trouble at all. It seems the problem is widespread enough that Palm is looking into it.

Weird, I just installed Panther at work and HotSync'd just fine. Guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

bustthis · 10-25-2003, 01:54 PM

i tired to use diskwarrior 3 in 10.3 on a internal ata disk in my g4. i got this weird message saying it wasn't able to replace the directory because of a mac os resource problem and the replace button was greyed out. i had to force quit dw and the drive was unmounted, when i tried to mount it with disk utility i got a kernal panic.

also my pure-ftpd server is broken in 10.3. i followed these instructions http://forums.macosxhints.com/showt...ghlight=proftpd for installing a pure-ftpd server in 10.3 and it's not working anymore. i get:

Connected to bustthis.homeftp.net.
220-FTP server ready.
220 This is a private system - No anonymous login
331 User charlesx OK. Password required
Password:
530 Authentication failed, sorry
ftp: Login failed.

my password is correct, does this not work in 10.3. it worked great in 10.2.8! did i mess things up by installing this in 10.3?

please help!

jiclark · 10-25-2003, 03:05 PM

iKey 1.0.4 -supposedly has Panther support, but I get odd problems when trying to use it's Menu shortcuts.

PTH apps -Clock and Pasteboard specifically; as merv mentions above, they work, but can no longer access their prefs (or any of their menus at all, for that matter) in Panther.

MaxMenus -works, but funky; the 'unused menubar area' menu no longer functions, except (rarely) when you click on something in a pop-up menu that happens to overlap the menubar. Other menus work, but don't have icons and such... Proteron developers seem to have disappeared though; their site hasn't been updated in some time, and the 'lead developer' of MM, Ammon Skidmore, gets email bounced from his account. Bummer, as I rely on MM a LOT!

Spell Catcher X -works, but causes odd dialogs to appear on logout/login... Developer is frantically working on a fix, according to his website.

Just some of what I've discovered....

robJ · 10-25-2003, 03:12 PM

It might be helpful if, when stating that something is broken, you include your method of upgrade to Panther. Some broken things might work fine if they are reinstalled after a Panther upgrade that was done on top of an existing OS X installation.

-- Rob

jiclark · 10-25-2003, 03:16 PM

Okay,

I used Archive and Install. I'm actually tempted to go back and do an Erase and Install. I don't really want to spend several more hours (at least!), but there's a enough weirdness in my system that's it's very tempting.

yellow · 10-25-2003, 03:23 PM

I find the text colors are all screwy in Unreal Tournament 2k3. They've gone from their default yellowish hue to something akin to purplish-pink. Yuck.

Addendum:
A work around is to reset your color setting to 32-bit (or possibly 16 bit, whatever you're running currently). Your colors will be back to normal. This does not survive a quit and restart of the game, however.

Addendum-addendum: *sigh* Once you start a game it goes back to being screwy.

wayneyoung · 10-25-2003, 05:48 PM

Magic Menu of Stuffit Deluxe 7.0.3 does not work - no update available.

The menu extra "Classic Spy" does not work - no update available.

swanksalot · 10-25-2003, 06:19 PM

nowsoftware.com/panther.html seems to verify what I read at MacInTouch, namely, that Now Contact is broken for the near future. Bleh!

10-24-2003, 04:07 PM	#1
Phil St. Romain Site Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 2,350	Applications "broken" by Mac OS X 10.3 Please list those you've found to either not work or not run as well as in 10.2.x

10-24-2003, 07:24 PM	#2
RideMan Triple-A Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 68	Avid Xpress DV 3.5. I have not verified this...I do not have Panther. Word on the Avid forums is that Avid Xpress DV v3.5.4 will not work on OS X.3. It is unlikely to be patched, as Avid Xpress Pro (the successor to Xpress DV) has been released, and rumor has it that Xpress Pro works fine on X.3.

10-24-2003, 07:35 PM	#3
wayneyoung Triple-A Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 216	Netzero software does not work. edit at Yellow's request: Doesn't work and no Panther update. Last edited by wayneyoung; 10-24-2003 at 11:16 PM.

10-24-2003, 07:50 PM	#4
yellow Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,677	Clarification please.. Err.. don't work and have no Panther update, or don't work without looking for an update?

10-24-2003, 08:52 PM	#5
mervTormel League Commissioner Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,536	beware PTH{clock,pasteboard,itunesNotifier} are not entirely working well. grep'ing for updates has proved fruitless. iChatStatus.prefPane MenuMeters.prefPane have been misbehaving. clutter got its head wedged between the iron bars, but a little elbow grease got past its ears. some may see anomalies with some apps that aren't really broken, just winged. post those here, too, so we can monitor.

10-24-2003, 09:53 PM	#6
petey All Star Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: peteyville Posts: 794	anyone try QuicKeys on Panther? i know it's at least slightly broken, but i'd like to find out how broken it really is. i'm addicted to QK.

10-24-2003, 10:09 PM	#7
Applecore Prospect Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2	Fetchart script for iTunes not working. __________________ G4 400 AGP 1 gig ram/80 gig hd

10-25-2003, 12:43 AM	#8
Phil St. Romain Site Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 2,350	Datebook Conduit for Palm Desktop got totally bumped. I tried copying it from my backup and it wouldn't work. I then tried reinstalling Palm Desktop and it wouldn't install--some error message about the system. I rebooted in my 10.2.8 backup on a firewire drive and reinstalled Palm Desktop on Panther; when I rebooted, everything worked fine. It could be that the new iSync conduit for Palm had something to do with this problem.

10-25-2003, 06:55 AM	#9
robm Prospect Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10	DoubleCommand stopped functioning in Panther

10-25-2003, 11:26 AM	#11
Phil St. Romain Site Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wichita, KS Posts: 2,350	Copying the HotSync files didn't work for me, yellow. I read the MFI report later and noted, too, that some people had no trouble at all. It seems the problem is widespread enough that Palm is looking into it.

10-25-2003, 11:37 AM	#12
fxt Triple-A Player Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: los alamos Posts: 96	copypaste-x 1.6 seems broken. when its activated i cannot type the lowercase letter "c". 100% repeatable on my rig. anyone else see this? rbrowser 3.2.1 cannot make ssh connections, but the developed will send you version 3.3 , which does work. and, as already well documented, psync isn't working. fxt

10-25-2003, 01:54 PM	#14
bustthis Triple-A Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: brooklyn, ny Posts: 203	i tired to use diskwarrior 3 in 10.3 on a internal ata disk in my g4. i got this weird message saying it wasn't able to replace the directory because of a mac os resource problem and the replace button was greyed out. i had to force quit dw and the drive was unmounted, when i tried to mount it with disk utility i got a kernal panic. also my pure-ftpd server is broken in 10.3. i followed these instructions http://forums.macosxhints.com/showt...ghlight=proftpd for installing a pure-ftpd server in 10.3 and it's not working anymore. i get: Connected to bustthis.homeftp.net. 220-FTP server ready. 220 This is a private system - No anonymous login 331 User charlesx OK. Password required Password: 530 Authentication failed, sorry ftp: Login failed. my password is correct, does this not work in 10.3. it worked great in 10.2.8! did i mess things up by installing this in 10.3? please help! __________________ charles

10-25-2003, 03:05 PM	#15
jiclark Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Juan Mts, Colo. Posts: 283	'partially' broken, definitely wonky... iKey 1.0.4 -supposedly has Panther support, but I get odd problems when trying to use it's Menu shortcuts. PTH apps -Clock and Pasteboard specifically; as merv mentions above, they work, but can no longer access their prefs (or any of their menus at all, for that matter) in Panther. MaxMenus -works, but funky; the 'unused menubar area' menu no longer functions, except (rarely) when you click on something in a pop-up menu that happens to overlap the menubar. Other menus work, but don't have icons and such... Proteron developers seem to have disappeared though; their site hasn't been updated in some time, and the 'lead developer' of MM, Ammon Skidmore, gets email bounced from his account. Bummer, as I rely on MM a LOT! Spell Catcher X -works, but causes odd dialogs to appear on logout/login... Developer is frantically working on a fix, according to his website. Just some of what I've discovered....

10-25-2003, 03:12 PM	#16
robJ Major Leaguer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 429	It might be helpful if, when stating that something is broken, you include your method of upgrade to Panther. Some broken things might work fine if they are reinstalled after a Panther upgrade that was done on top of an existing OS X installation. -- Rob

10-25-2003, 03:16 PM	#17
jiclark Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Juan Mts, Colo. Posts: 283	install method... Okay, I used Archive and Install. I'm actually tempted to go back and do an Erase and Install. I don't really want to spend several more hours (at least!), but there's a enough weirdness in my system that's it's very tempting.

10-25-2003, 03:23 PM	#18
yellow Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,677	UT2k3 I find the text colors are all screwy in Unreal Tournament 2k3. They've gone from their default yellowish hue to something akin to purplish-pink. Yuck. Addendum: A work around is to reset your color setting to 32-bit (or possibly 16 bit, whatever you're running currently). Your colors will be back to normal. This does not survive a quit and restart of the game, however. Addendum-addendum: sigh Once you start a game it goes back to being screwy. Last edited by yellow; 10-25-2003 at 05:49 PM.

10-25-2003, 05:48 PM	#19
wayneyoung Triple-A Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 216	Magic Menu of Stuffit Deluxe 7.0.3 does not work - no update available. The menu extra "Classic Spy" does not work - no update available.

10-25-2003, 06:19 PM	#20
swanksalot Triple-A Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 72	Now Contact nowsoftware.com/panther.html seems to verify what I read at MacInTouch, namely, that Now Contact is broken for the near future. Bleh!