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Comments on the Dual G5 review
Please use this thread to comment on my review of the new 2.0ghz Dual G5 PowerMac.
I've temporarily allowed anonymous posting here, but please, try to keep things civil. I don't mind criticism; I do mind insult hurling and name calling... -rob. |
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Great Review!
I was simply ASTOUNDED at that "Ten in ten on ten" (
) movie. I mean, SHEESH! That even includes things like iMovie and iPhoto! My "lowly" 800 MHz G4 iMac could NEVER pull off such a feat. That seriously is one kick-ass machine. Thanks for the review.One minor error that I did notice in the review, though, is that in the "Rob's Benchmarks" section, the G4 733 actually wins over the G5 in iCab launch time, just by 0.1 second, though you say the G5 has the best result in the test. Not like anyone should ever want to use iCab over Safari, anyway. ![]() The other thing is that TextEdit doesn't really exist on Mac OS 9 -- perhaps you were speaking of SimpleText?
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Good catch on the highlighting error ... and regarding SimpleText/TextEdit -- yes, but I didn't have room for both in the label
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Nice review! Next time I come across $3000 lying in the street I'll know for *sure* what to spend it on :-)
You might have even convinced me to try out Keynote and Jedi Knight - clearly both are impressive apps and produce some nice images. [Just a quick note - on your conclusions page, in the bottom navigation bar, "Photoshop Elements" and "Games" seem to be joined at the hip] |
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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G5 2.0 and Video Cards
I put a Radeon 7000 dual video card in the G5 2.0 for additional displays (I have more than two). Everything was great for a few minutes then I noticed iTunes stutter. Turns out the Radeon 7000 and even older Radeon cards cause the AGP card to overheat for some reason. The odd result is iTunes stutter so bad I can't listen to it.
I'm anxious to hear from anyone that is successfully using any PCI video card in the G5 2.0 |
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My xBench and speedrun scores under 10.3 are quite a bit higher. slightly over 200 for xBench, and over 1100 for speedrun.
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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Stability
I'd like to hear something more about stability anc compatibility with various software.
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Prospect
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Appleton, WI USA
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Great review!
thanx for the great review! I found the benchmark programs you used to be helpful in assessing my own 'puter, an MDD dual 1 gig. Unfortunately, I can't afford to sell what I've got to get what I want (a Dual G5) keep up the great work!
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Stability and compatibility
For the suite of programs I run, the only issue I've run into is a couple of graphical glitches in Tiger Woods. I haven't tried stuff like Retrospect or DiskWarrior yet, though. I haven't heard much about anyone else having issues, outside of VirtualPC and its need to be reworked for the G5.
Regarding stability, it's been just as stable (which is to say rock solid) as my G4, excluding the two KPs I had right after adding the new RAM. Once I swapped the RAM, that was the end of the stability issues. -rob. |
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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so, as far I can see from reading usenet on Internet it seems there aren't serious system incompatibilities, although the platform is totally new.
On the G4 Launch there were lots of problems. thank you for your reply and for the review. |
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Any developers out there who will be getting a dual 2GHz G5 will appreciate this report. Our product (MultiAd Creator) is around 700k lines of code. Doing a full build of the debug target on my dual 800MHz G4 with CodeWarrior 8 takes almost 39 minutes. The G5 takes 14 minutes. It's severly cut into my leisure time.
It also *screams* through SETI@home data units in only a few hours instead of several. Another thing that impressed me was the smoothness of Ghost Recon and Unreal Tournament 2003. The first thing I did was set them to 1280x1024, 32bit, and all the audio and video options to Highest. Even the most complex maps deliver a very high frame rate with no stutters or lags what so ever.
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Triple-A Player
Join Date: Apr 2002
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excellent review, thanks a lot
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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Photoshop elements not quite so fast
The PE 2.0 startup is a little deceptive, in that the icon stops bouncing long before the app is actually ready to do anything. I tried starting it on a dual 2 GHz G5 in my local Apple store, and it still took about 5 seconds to finish starting up. Hardly a scientific test, but it would have been cool if it came up instantly...
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I guess I'm a bit confused by that statement -- I show six seconds to get it running ready to use (after first launch of the day), and I just checked it again. Six seconds after I double click it, I can have a new document open, or it will be ready to edit the image I dropped on it (depending on how big that image is, of course -- load time for the image can be a factor, too).
Are you saying the machine you tested wasn't done loading Elements in six seconds? -rob. |
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No
No, I was referring to the movie of ten apps loading at once - because the PE splash screen is covered, one might think that it was done more quickly than it really was.
But it still beats the heck out of 11-12 secs on my 17" iMac. |
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i would like to thank you for taking the time to write this review.
I found it one of the most informative review on the web. the bad thing is i want a G5 now Christophe. |
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I'm happy to know that THPS 4 runes fine with the dual 2 GHz and radeon 9800 pro. Because it stutteres and lags from time to time with sual 1 GHz and Radeon 9000. Well let's see my dualie should ship on or before 16th.
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"No, I was referring to the movie of ten apps loading at once - because the PE splash screen is covered, one might think that it was done more quickly than it really was."
Ah, now I understand. If you look closely at the movie, Elements (and one other app) are actually already running and are not part of the 10 that launch. They just happened to be running already, so I skipped over them with the mouse to launch the others. -rob. |
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Please fix javascript
Rob,
Unfortunately I have to work on a PC at work, and using IE6 to go to the review puts me in an endless javascript loop and I have to force quit IE to recover. It is complaining about some mouseover image not being defined. Please fix this, I'd love to read your review. -Marc |
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I just got a Powerbook 15" 1.25GHz and it rips CD's at 16x also. I think the limiting factor at that point is the speed of the CD-ROM drive. I'm sure that if you tried converting an AIFF file with that monster that it would eat it for breakfast.
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