Xmms

tsugaru · 09-09-2003, 02:51 PM

How do I go abouts installing XMMS on my Mac (OS 10.2.6)?

I have X11 installed already. What files do I download from xmms.org and how do I compile it?

macmath · 09-09-2003, 03:21 PM

I have xmms installed, but I installed it via Fink. Are you interested in using Fink, or would you rather install it yourself (manually)?

A cursory glance at the xmms-info file from my Fink installation says that if you were to do this manually, you'd also need to install

esound, libogg, libvorbis0, libmikmod, glib, gtk+, libxml, dlcompat-dev, gettext-dev, gettext-bin, libiconv-dev

[Edited to take out a question mark at the end of the first sentence and replace it by a period...don't know why I had a question mark there.]

sao · 09-10-2003, 04:27 AM

tsugaru,

Like macmath said, it's probably easier to install xmms with Fink.

tsugaru · 09-10-2003, 10:23 AM

Ok so how do I go abouts installing it with fink?

macmath · 09-10-2003, 10:49 AM

A) If you already have Fink and the Developer's tools.

1) In Terminal type

Code:

fink install xmms

You'll be asked for your password, and then it will ask for your permission to install other packages which are needed for xmms. Then it will take care of the rest itself.

or

2) With FinkCommander instead, type xmms in the field on the upper left corner of the FinkCommander window and select 'Name' on the button to the left of the field. The xmms package should then be visible on the table below. Select xmms and then select 'Install' from the 'Source' menu on the menubar. The rest will be the same as for the instructions from the Terminal.

B) If you don't have Fink, but have the Developer's tools, you can download an installer for Fink and/or FinkCommander and proceed as above.

C) If you don't have the Developer's tools, then perhaps you can install Fink and FinkCommander as in (B) and then do as above in FinkCommander, except choose 'Install' from the 'Binary' menu on the menubar. I'm not sure if you'll need the Developer's tools to do this or not...can someone else please comment about this? To get the Developer's tools, you need only sign up at the ADC and then you'll have access to about 250 MB (compressed) worth of Developer's tools for free download. I hope you have access to something besides a 56k modem.

tsugaru · 09-10-2003, 11:07 AM

I have installed it but I can't get any sound to come out.

I installed it via FinkCommander and I can't get any sound.

If I check the X11 terminal window, it says:
unable to open port `/dev/ttyS1' (No such file or directory)
unable to open port `/dev/ttyS1' (No such file or directory)

Rather cryptic. Did I do something wrong?

sao · 09-10-2003, 11:32 AM

tsugaru,

First, be sure to select the "eSound Output Plugin" in the xmms preferences.

If still doesn't work read the Fink FAQ's on xmms here:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usag...php#xmms-quiet

To check if *esound* is working, run in an xterm:

esd &

if you hear a sound, then it should be working.

If still no sound:

and since xmms forks an esd process the first time you run it, then you'll might have one running as root already, to confirm try:

ps -auxw | grep esd

If the first column is root, hunt that process down and kill it, and restart *esd* from the command line.

Then, start -xmms- from an xterm:

xmms &

tsugaru · 09-10-2003, 11:35 AM

[quicksilver:~] avu% ps -auxw | grep esd
root 321 0.0 2.0 37316 16088 ?? Ss 8:15AM 0:01.97 /System/Librar
y/CoreServices/coreservicesd -preload AEServer
avu 3596 0.0 0.0 1116 4 std R+ 9:34AM 0:00.00 grep esd
[quicksilver:~] avu% esd
using device Built-in audio controller for output:
with sample rate 44100.000000, 2 channels and 32-bit sample
unsupported device.
[quicksilver:~] avu% sudo kill 321
Password:
[quicksilver:~] avu% esd
using device Built-in audio controller for output:
with sample rate 44100.000000, 2 channels and 32-bit sample
unsupported device.
[quicksilver:~] avu% ps -auxw | grep esd
avu 3620 0.0 0.0 1116 4 std R+ 9:34AM 0:00.00 grep esd
[quicksilver:~] avu% sudo kill 3620
kill: 3620: No such process
[quicksilver:~] avu%

sao · 09-10-2003, 11:59 AM

tsugaru,

So, what happens now when you run from an xterm:

xmms &

tsugaru · 09-10-2003, 12:00 PM

[quicksilver:~] avu% xmms &
[1] 4551
[quicksilver:~] avu% unable to open port `/dev/ttyS1' (No such file or directory)
unable to open port `/dev/ttyS1' (No such file or directory)

I am going to reboot my computer as soon as my CDs are done burning, then I will get back to you.

This is very frustrating. It's a simple thing.

sao · 09-10-2003, 03:18 PM

tsugaru,

I am not familiar with this error, but ttys1 exists:

Code:

Sao  @ ~  $ ls -l /dev/ttys1
crw-rw-rw-    1 root     wheel      4,  49 Sep 10 11:31 /dev/ttys1

Just for info:

fink -V
gcc -v

When you installed Apple's X11 did you also installed Apple SDK?

Do you get the same message with other X11 apps?

tsugaru · 09-11-2003, 12:52 PM

Yes I installed X11 beta 3 as well as the SDK.

From terminal:

quicksilver:~] avu% ls -l /dev/ttys1
crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 4, 49 Sep 11 10:22 /dev/ttys1
[quicksilver:~] avu% fink -V
Package manager version: 0.13.2
Distribution version: 0.5.3

Copyright (c) 2001 Christoph Pfisterer
Copyright (c) 2001-2003 The Fink Package Manager Team
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
GNU General Public License for more details.
[quicksilver:~] avu% gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.1/specs
Thread model: posix
Apple Computer, Inc. GCC version 1175, based on gcc version 3.1 20020420 (prerelease)
[quicksilver:~] avu%

sao · 09-11-2003, 01:08 PM

tsugaru,

Do you get the same message with other X11 apps?

tsugaru · 09-12-2003, 03:25 PM

What other x11 apps?

sao · 09-12-2003, 03:35 PM

tsugaru,

Install any small application with FinkCommander and test if the same error comes out when you start the application from an xterm.

tsugaru · 09-12-2003, 07:06 PM

I will do that when I get home from class.

Geez.

I don't really care for XMMS anymore. I just wanna be able to get it running.

pete · 10-11-2003, 10:01 AM

I am having the same problems with xmms I just rebuilt my OS X, updating it to 10.2.6, X11 0.3 with SDK, Fink, along with a variety of unix apps including xmms. It again has no output.

I recall this from when I first installed it and there was a simple fix in the pref's IIRC. Can't find that now - although I am still looking!

pete

pete · 10-11-2003, 10:08 AM

What do you know - as soon as I posted my comment, I have sound coming out of xmms. Not what I thought the problem was, but it is now working.

The Graphic Equalizer has two buttons in the uppper left for 'on' and 'auto'. I switched those on and I had sound. Perhaps just running 'esd' (no ampersand) in a Terminal window to get esd up was all that was needed. I did that, then fudged around a bit more.

Just goes to show you - fiddle around enough and you can get what you want!

pete

sao · 10-11-2003, 11:02 AM

Quote:


	pete wrote: Perhaps just running 'esd' (no ampersand) in a Terminal window to get esd up was all that was needed.

Yes, like I wrote above: "first check that *esound* is working, run in an xterm: 'esd &' if you hear a sound, then it should be working".

pete · 10-11-2003, 11:58 AM

I had tried your suggestion of using 'esd &' a couple times but that only crashed the Terminal. Fiddled more - tried 'esd' without ' &' and sound emanated from the speakers. The output was directed to the Terminal window, so adding the ' &' would force it to use its own window - which it doesn't do.

Glad I managed to get it working - now I have to adjust something or other as the sound is somewhat munged.

pete

09-09-2003, 02:51 PM	#1
tsugaru Major Leaguer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Edmonton Posts: 267	Xmms How do I go abouts installing XMMS on my Mac (OS 10.2.6)? I have X11 installed already. What files do I download from xmms.org and how do I compile it?

09-09-2003, 03:21 PM	#2
macmath MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 1,497	I have xmms installed, but I installed it via Fink. Are you interested in using Fink, or would you rather install it yourself (manually)? A cursory glance at the xmms-info file from my Fink installation says that if you were to do this manually, you'd also need to install esound, libogg, libvorbis0, libmikmod, glib, gtk+, libxml, dlcompat-dev, gettext-dev, gettext-bin, libiconv-dev [Edited to take out a question mark at the end of the first sentence and replace it by a period...don't know why I had a question mark there.] Last edited by macmath; 09-10-2003 at 10:04 AM.

09-10-2003, 10:49 AM	#5
macmath MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 1,497	A) If you already have Fink and the Developer's tools. 1) In Terminal type Code: fink install xmms You'll be asked for your password, and then it will ask for your permission to install other packages which are needed for xmms. Then it will take care of the rest itself. or 2) With FinkCommander instead, type xmms in the field on the upper left corner of the FinkCommander window and select 'Name' on the button to the left of the field. The xmms package should then be visible on the table below. Select xmms and then select 'Install' from the 'Source' menu on the menubar. The rest will be the same as for the instructions from the Terminal. B) If you don't have Fink, but have the Developer's tools, you can download an installer for Fink and/or FinkCommander and proceed as above. C) If you don't have the Developer's tools, then perhaps you can install Fink and FinkCommander as in (B) and then do as above in FinkCommander, except choose 'Install' from the 'Binary' menu on the menubar. I'm not sure if you'll need the Developer's tools to do this or not...can someone else please comment about this? To get the Developer's tools, you need only sign up at the ADC and then you'll have access to about 250 MB (compressed) worth of Developer's tools for free download. I hope you have access to something besides a 56k modem.

09-10-2003, 11:07 AM	#6
tsugaru Major Leaguer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Edmonton Posts: 267	I have installed it but I can't get any sound to come out. I installed it via FinkCommander and I can't get any sound. If I check the X11 terminal window, it says: unable to open port `/dev/ttyS1' (No such file or directory) unable to open port `/dev/ttyS1' (No such file or directory) Rather cryptic. Did I do something wrong? Last edited by tsugaru; 09-10-2003 at 11:24 AM.

09-10-2003, 11:32 AM	#7
sao Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,237	tsugaru, First, be sure to select the "eSound Output Plugin" in the xmms preferences. If still doesn't work read the Fink FAQ's on xmms here: http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usag...php#xmms-quiet To check if esound is working, run in an xterm: esd & if you hear a sound, then it should be working. If still no sound: and since xmms forks an esd process the first time you run it, then you'll might have one running as root already, to confirm try: ps -auxw \| grep esd If the first column is root, hunt that process down and kill it, and restart esd from the command line. Then, start -xmms- from an xterm: xmms & Last edited by sao; 09-10-2003 at 11:36 AM.

09-10-2003, 04:27 AM	#3
sao Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,237	tsugaru, Like macmath said, it's probably easier to install xmms with Fink.

09-10-2003, 10:23 AM	#4
tsugaru Major Leaguer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Edmonton Posts: 267	Ok so how do I go abouts installing it with fink?

09-10-2003, 11:35 AM	#8
tsugaru Major Leaguer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Edmonton Posts: 267	[quicksilver:~] avu% ps -auxw \| grep esd root 321 0.0 2.0 37316 16088 ?? Ss 8:15AM 0:01.97 /System/Librar y/CoreServices/coreservicesd -preload AEServer avu 3596 0.0 0.0 1116 4 std R+ 9:34AM 0:00.00 grep esd [quicksilver:~] avu% esd using device Built-in audio controller for output: with sample rate 44100.000000, 2 channels and 32-bit sample unsupported device. [quicksilver:~] avu% sudo kill 321 Password: [quicksilver:~] avu% esd using device Built-in audio controller for output: with sample rate 44100.000000, 2 channels and 32-bit sample unsupported device. [quicksilver:~] avu% ps -auxw \| grep esd avu 3620 0.0 0.0 1116 4 std R+ 9:34AM 0:00.00 grep esd [quicksilver:~] avu% sudo kill 3620 kill: 3620: No such process [quicksilver:~] avu%

09-10-2003, 11:59 AM	#9
sao Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,237	tsugaru, So, what happens now when you run from an xterm: xmms &

09-10-2003, 12:00 PM	#10
tsugaru Major Leaguer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Edmonton Posts: 267	[quicksilver:~] avu% xmms & [1] 4551 [quicksilver:~] avu% unable to open port `/dev/ttyS1' (No such file or directory) unable to open port `/dev/ttyS1' (No such file or directory) I am going to reboot my computer as soon as my CDs are done burning, then I will get back to you. This is very frustrating. It's a simple thing.

09-10-2003, 03:18 PM	#11
sao Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,237	tsugaru, I am not familiar with this error, but ttys1 exists: Code: Sao @ ~ $ ls -l /dev/ttys1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 4, 49 Sep 10 11:31 /dev/ttys1 Just for info: fink -V gcc -v When you installed Apple's X11 did you also installed Apple SDK? Do you get the same message with other X11 apps? Last edited by sao; 09-10-2003 at 03:55 PM.

09-11-2003, 12:52 PM	#12
tsugaru Major Leaguer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Edmonton Posts: 267	Yes I installed X11 beta 3 as well as the SDK. From terminal: quicksilver:~] avu% ls -l /dev/ttys1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 4, 49 Sep 11 10:22 /dev/ttys1 [quicksilver:~] avu% fink -V Package manager version: 0.13.2 Distribution version: 0.5.3 Copyright (c) 2001 Christoph Pfisterer Copyright (c) 2001-2003 The Fink Package Manager Team This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. [quicksilver:~] avu% gcc -v Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.1/specs Thread model: posix Apple Computer, Inc. GCC version 1175, based on gcc version 3.1 20020420 (prerelease) [quicksilver:~] avu%

09-11-2003, 01:08 PM	#13
sao Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,237	tsugaru, Do you get the same message with other X11 apps?

09-12-2003, 03:25 PM	#14
tsugaru Major Leaguer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Edmonton Posts: 267	What other x11 apps?

09-12-2003, 03:35 PM	#15
sao Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,237	tsugaru, Install any small application with FinkCommander and test if the same error comes out when you start the application from an xterm.

09-12-2003, 07:06 PM	#16
tsugaru Major Leaguer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Edmonton Posts: 267	I will do that when I get home from class. Geez. I don't really care for XMMS anymore. I just wanna be able to get it running.

10-11-2003, 10:01 AM	#17
pete Prospect Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brighton ON Posts: 46	I am having the same problems with xmms I just rebuilt my OS X, updating it to 10.2.6, X11 0.3 with SDK, Fink, along with a variety of unix apps including xmms. It again has no output. I recall this from when I first installed it and there was a simple fix in the pref's IIRC. Can't find that now - although I am still looking! pete

10-11-2003, 10:08 AM	#18
pete Prospect Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brighton ON Posts: 46	What do you know - as soon as I posted my comment, I have sound coming out of xmms. Not what I thought the problem was, but it is now working. The Graphic Equalizer has two buttons in the uppper left for 'on' and 'auto'. I switched those on and I had sound. Perhaps just running 'esd' (no ampersand) in a Terminal window to get esd up was all that was needed. I did that, then fudged around a bit more. Just goes to show you - fiddle around enough and you can get what you want! pete

10-11-2003, 11:58 AM	#20
pete Prospect Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Brighton ON Posts: 46	I had tried your suggestion of using 'esd &' a couple times but that only crashed the Terminal. Fiddled more - tried 'esd' without ' &' and sound emanated from the speakers. The output was directed to the Terminal window, so adding the ' &' would force it to use its own window - which it doesn't do. Glad I managed to get it working - now I have to adjust something or other as the sound is somewhat munged. pete