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Old 02-11-2010, 07:06 PM   #1
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Help with Mac Mail (moved from Eudora)

I finally got rid of Eudora and have questions about Mac Mail:

1. How do I manage the mailboxes--for instance, I want to read and delete but that putting delete moves it to a folder I have created called "read mail" (as in past participle, mail that I have read that I do not wish to dump)

2. imap vs pop? does this help with the creation of mailboxes?

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Old 02-11-2010, 07:40 PM   #2
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1. Why not just create a couple of Smart mailboxes? See pics.

2. Huh?
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:44 PM   #3
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Yes, I was trying this,...but how do I set it up that my mail will automatically go to the Unread box when I hit delete on a message? And not go to the trash? Or must I drag it?

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Old 02-11-2010, 07:48 PM   #4
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You don't hit delete unless you want to send it to the trash. If you set up the two smart mailboxes, then when you select (read) a message in the unread mailbox it will automatically go to the read mailbox. To move one to the Unread smart mailbox, mark it as unread, either in the smart mailbox "Read" or in the account's main inbox.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:50 PM   #5
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How do I select "read"--I have been trying to figure this out. I know it might seem obvious to those who know mail, but it is not so obvioius to me

Also, I was hoping that Mail offered a macro for the delete key...

Thanks again.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:52 PM   #6
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You're not making sense. Have you looked at Smart mailboxes or the images I posted? Why would you need a macro for the delete key? It works as it should.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:56 PM   #7
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Yes, I did. Sorry, I am laughing because I hear your frustration and the funny thing I know a lot about computers. But I have this program in French and there is a problem with the way Mail translated things here. They use the term "BAL" which I have absolutely no idea what it is...

I have done what you said/showed...and the fact is that this BAL thing is part of it... I speak French and have no clue what it is.
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Old 02-11-2010, 07:59 PM   #8
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And I figured it out ...

For the READ box I had to put

"le message ne se trouve pas dans le BAL" and Inbox

then for the UNREAD box:

Le message se trouve dans le BAL and pull down the Read box

So in French the syntax is the opposite (via language).

Thanks so much!
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:01 PM   #9
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Ok, now I have the boxes set up but the mail stays my mail servers' mailboxes adn doesn't come to the UNREAD or READ boxes?
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:38 PM   #10
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Does it come to the inbox? The smart mailboxes work on the inbox messages.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:14 PM   #11
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Yes it comes to the inboxes. But I have two different email mail accounts...so it remains in the email accounts and not the read - unread boxes.

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Old 02-11-2010, 11:51 PM   #12
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Ok, I had one box incorreclty checked. All is well.

Thanks for your help!
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:47 AM   #13
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I have started to use this configuration and my messages that I have read are not kept in the READ box. They are just gone. I have all the mail that I imported from Eudora but I have tested with new mail and there is no mail in the software saved. Nothing in the garbage--nothing!

Please help.

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Old 02-12-2010, 10:20 AM   #14
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There really isn't a Read box. The messages it contains are really just links to the messages it finds that meet its criteria. If it isn't finding your read messages, then it's because you've either removed them from your inbox or you've set the wrong criteria. The criteria for the Read smart mailbox is that the message is not in the Unread smart mailbox, which first must find only unread messages.
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Old 02-12-2010, 11:02 AM   #15
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If you're interested in maintaining a Eudora-like look and feel to Mac Mail then create one smart mailbox (mine is called "To Read") with the following rule:
"Message is unread" and below that, "Message is in Mailbox Inbox". That way, no matter how many accounts you have in your inbox, the mail you haven't read will appear in the smart folder.

I'm not happy with the IMAP plan my ISP offers, so I use POP for my accounts.
I've created a set of "dumb" folders in the "On my Mac" section of the left hand column of Mail and I've added a bunch of filters in my Mail Preferences that target those folders; e.g., I have a folder called NetTalk with this rule:

"if any of the following conditions are met:
To or From or CC or Bcc Contains NetTalk
Perform the following actions:
Move Message to mailbox NetTalk"

That sorts my mail as it was sorted in Eudora before I switched. That way, I have all my untrashed emails on my own machine and POP deletes them from the server. The downside of that, of course, is that I can only reread them on my own machine and so have to use screen sharing to access them from away.
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Old 02-12-2010, 01:55 PM   #16
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Thanks so much! Actually that was the problem--the read box has to have the "inbox" and not the "unread" box checked. That makes all the difference.

Thanks again!
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