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pfhannan 01-31-2009 04:35 PM

I need to find & install both OS 9 and OS 10 on my iMac G4/800 Flat panel
 
I need to install both OS 9 and OS 10 on my iMac G4/800 Flat panel, where can I get them, other than eBay?

hayne 01-31-2009 06:53 PM

pfhannan:
As this seems to be the same topic, I have merged your new thread into this existing one. Please don't start new threads when one on the same or similar topic already exists.

You were given a few other (non-eBay) options above.

DeltaMac 01-31-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfhannan (Post 516053)
15- No blessing didn't help
17- I can not boot up OS 9, it says I do not have a system folder.....but I do have one in there.
I have iPhoto installed, it is 7.1.5, and am running on OS X 10.4.11

OK, I'll ask the question -
How does iPhoto 7 affect your need to have Classic (or a bootable OS 9, a different goal, BTW) ? You seem to ask about both, as if they are somehow linked....

pfhannan 01-31-2009 09:57 PM

Ok, I'll back up and try to explain. I bought an iMac G4/800 flat panel to replace my old imac that runs OS 9.2.2. My Old imac has my web site on it in which I have had on line since 1995, using Adobe ------- which is not supported, and I have about 1500 files in it, and is financially supported by my classmates fron 1955. www.dhsclassof55.com (Photoshop 7 was essential to my web page.)
I am concerned that my old iMac will fail, so I bought this new one, in which I can run my web site in OS 9.2.2, and run OS X too. Now...my main machine is/was a iBook G4 running OSX 10.4.11, and I wanted to upgrade so I bought a MacBook pro. In thinking I was to sell my iBook G4 I started deleting files that I thought were personal in nature. I then migrated all the iBook G4 files into my MacBook pro, and to my suprise, my iPhoto does not work. I had used it daily, it was essential to my work. Now I need iPhoto for my MacBook Pro. and my iMac G4/800 flatscreen. I have tried to purchase a install set on ebay twice and lost out. I need to purchase installation discs at any price, I'll even pay more than I paid for the computer, thats how desperate I am. I also need to be able to get iPhoto to work in my MacBook pro, and am purchasing iWork, or iLife, which ever allowes my to reinstall iPhoto. As it stands not my iMac G4/800 does not boot up in OS9 because it tells me that I do not have a OS9 system in there, but I do have one in there. Looking back, those 28 floppy discs to install OS 6 in my old Classic was so simple... I hope you can make sense out of this, I want to end up with 2 machines, One that has OS 9 & X, the other OS10.5.6 with iPhoto that works.
paul

anika123 02-03-2009 10:36 AM

Does the imac boot to 10.4x? Why not just use the classic support built into 10.4 instead of having it boot up. This is what I had to do with my old G4. It would run classic simulated but would never boot it up for some reason.

pfhannan 02-03-2009 10:53 AM

Yes it does boot up in 10.4.11, but OS 9 is not installed, and I do not have it to install.

trevor 02-03-2009 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfhannan (Post 516649)
I then migrated all the iBook G4 files into my MacBook pro, and to my suprise, my iPhoto does not work. I had used it daily, it was essential to my work. Now I need iPhoto for my MacBook Pro.

Do you have iLife? If so, reinstall iLife onto the MacBook Pro. Or, alternatively, do you have the original discs that came with the MacBook Pro? I'm not sure, but they may have iLife on them, which will include iPhoto. Boot to your original discs and do a custom install of just iLife (it may be under something like "Extras", or "Additional Software", or some name like that.)

You could also use the utility Pacifist http://www.charlessoft.com/ to extract just iPhoto's installer and install only that from whatever original media you have that contain iPhoto.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfhannan
and my iMac G4/800 flatscreen. I have tried to purchase a install set on ebay twice and lost out. I need to purchase installation discs at any price, I'll even pay more than I paid for the computer, thats how desperate I am.

If ebay auctions are not going well for you, either search for it on ebay with a "Buy it now" designation, which won't be subject to the chance of losing the auction, or else buy the install set from a third party reseller, such as OWC http://macsales.com , Small Dog http://smalldog.com , or just do a search using Froogle http://froogle.com .

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfhannan
I also need to be able to get iPhoto to work in my MacBook pro, and am purchasing iWork, or iLife, which ever allowes my to reinstall iPhoto. As it stands not my iMac G4/800 does not boot up in OS9 because it tells me that I do not have a OS9 system in there, but I do have one in there.

You may need to bless the System Folder.

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA21672?viewlocale=en_US
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%...ient=firefox-a

Trevor

anika123 02-03-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Yes it does boot up in 10.4.11, but OS 9 is not installed, and I do not have it to install.
All you need for classic emulation under 10.4 is that system folder and the proper blessing. It should work. I think you set up classic in the system preferences. Once you get it to work you should be able to install apps by moving them into the new classic environment.

Really though all this for a web site? There are many modern tools that would probably make working with or converting your old site much easier. I would suggest you put more resources into remaking your web site imho.

pfhannan 02-03-2009 02:42 PM

I do not have a "classic emulation under 10.4 is that system folder", where might I find one?

trevor 02-03-2009 02:46 PM

No, what anika said is that all you need for Classic emulation of OS 9 is
1. the System Folder that you already have installed, and
2. the proper blessing

Classic is OS 9 emulation running inside of OS X, while booted to OS X.

I gave links explaining how to bless the OS 9 System Folder a few posts above.

Trevor

NaOH 02-03-2009 05:22 PM

If trevor's System Folder blessing advice doesn't work...

And if my memory serves me correctly...

I had one of these iMacs a few years ago that I bought used which came without the Apple-supplied discs. It wouldn't boot OS 9 (as startup or for Classic mode) even though I'd installed OS 9 using a retail disc. I spoke to an Apple Store Genius who advised me to contact Apple to get the original iMac install discs. I believe the problem was that the last retail version of OS 9 came out before that iMac was released (which Wikipedia confirms) and the iMac install discs had something machine-specific on them which enabled OS 9 and Classic on these machines.

In sum, then, if trevor's advice doesn't work, you may want to contact Apple Support. My understanding is that they can supply these discs and do so for a nominal fee ($10-$20).

pfhannan 02-05-2009 07:14 PM

I can't install OS 9 on my iMac G4/800 flat panel
 
I can't install OS 9 on my iMac G4/800 flat panel. It is capible of running both OS, but I install OS X, but can't install OS 9, i can't get OS 9 to boot. Help

NaOH 02-05-2009 07:23 PM

Potential answers to your question are in this thread:

http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=98093

pfhannan 02-06-2009 08:18 AM

Yes, my previous thread.....here is a comment from another, can you shed more light on it?

OS 9 cannot boot an 800 MHz G4 iMac made after June 2003. *Those models came with Software Restore discs that included a special version of OS 9 to use with the OS X Classic emulator.

paul

trevor 02-06-2009 10:31 AM

Hello Paul,

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfhannan (Post 517653)
Yes, my previous thread

You have already been asked not to start new threads when one on the same topic already exists. Please respect this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pfhannan
.....here is a comment from another, can you shed more light on it?

OS 9 cannot boot an 800 MHz G4 iMac made after June 2003. *Those models came with Software Restore discs that included a special version of OS 9 to use with the OS X Classic emulator.

I'm not sure where this person gets their information, but nothing changed in June 2003. According to MacTracker and LowEndMac (links below), there are two versions of the iMac G4 15" 800 MHz.

The first (eldest) is officially designated as the "iMac (Flat Panel)", but is more commonly just called the 15" iMac G4 700/800 MHz. It will successfully boot OS 9.2.2 with Mac OS ROM 9.0.1, provided on the original discs. It was sold from January 2002 to February 2003. The 800 MHz model shipped with a "Superdrive" (i.e. a DVD burner.)

The second (slightly newer) is officially designated the iMac 15" (Early 2003) but more commonly given a little more information in the name as the iMac 15" G4/800 MHz (Early 2003) and was sold from February 2003 to September 2003. This model will not boot OS 9, but of course can run Classic Emulation of OS 9 when used with OS X 10.1 through 10.4. Classic does not work on any computer with OS X 10.5.

The slightly newer iMac G4 15" 800 MHz shipped with a combo drive, i.e. one that can read and write CDs and read but not write to DVDs.

Trevor

pfhannan 02-06-2009 10:36 AM

I have the 17" flat panel is it any different than the 15"?

trevor 02-06-2009 10:49 AM

Yes, it is different. There's only one version of iMac G4 17" 800 MHz, and it will boot OS 9.2.2 with Mac OS ROM 9.5.1 (which was provided on the original discs that came with the computer). It was sold from July 2002 to February 2003.

Trevor

pfhannan 02-06-2009 11:09 AM

ok, thank you, then that is what I am looking for.

pfhannan 02-06-2009 11:21 AM

One more thing, on the link you gave me "announced at the Macworld Expo on July 17, 2002, the 17" G4 iMac has a wide aspect ratio "cinema" type screen and displays 1440 by 900 pixels ".....I just looked at my display and do not have that 1440 x 900, I just have 1024 x 786, 800x600 & 640x480, does this mean someone has changed this display??

trevor 02-06-2009 11:30 AM

The iMac G4 800MHz 15" models only go to 1024 x 768. Are you sure that you have a 17" and not a 15"?

Trevor


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