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louislouis 01-13-2009 02:29 AM

No it's just the thought of doing another thing in iTunes ...

fazstp 01-13-2009 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hal Itosis (Post 512881)
Plus -- as noted above -- a (single) EQ setting can be added to songs as a group.
[sort by EQ... select first... scroll... shift-select last... get info... click, click, done.]

You could set up a smart playlist of songs added in the last day and assign the EQ there.

Hal Itosis 01-13-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 513233)
You could set up a smart playlist of songs added in the last day and assign the EQ there.

Welcome to the party! We are a trio now... enough for a rhythm section.

I think the main thing to take away from all this is: keep good backups
of that (binary/hex/whatever) "iTunes Library" file, so we don't need to
find out if importing the (text/ascii/whatever) "iTunes Music Library.xml"
file works for us or not. Thank God Steve for Time Machine... as those
hourly incremental backups are just what the doctor ordered.

Downgrading iTunes versions isn't the only situation where this could
crop up. It's possible for the "iTunes Library" to get messed up while
we are using (abusing) it with just one iTunes version.

louislouis 05-20-2009 02:05 PM

I wonder if anyone knows if this equalizer problem has been solved yet?

I just popped into the Apple Store on Regent Street in London and tried a Mac with iTunes 8.1.1 which, I think, was released in April 2009.

http://support.apple.com/downloads/iTunes_8_1_1_for_Mac

Guess what - it still has the same problem :(

Hal Itosis 05-20-2009 02:20 PM

The primary hurdle remains: convincing people (Apple mostly) that this falls under a "problem" category (rather than a 'works as intended' scenario).

I find the fact that the Volume tag (Get Info: Options: Volume slider) no longer affects burned CDs far more fundamental and extremely annoying. I had to purchase iVolume 3 (now $30) just to burn some CD mixes with listenable normalization. (Sound Check's default behavior is woefully inadequate).

I agree that iTunes needs work.

louislouis 05-21-2009 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis (Post 534091)
The primary hurdle remains: convincing people (Apple mostly) that this falls under a "problem" category (rather than a 'works as intended' scenario).

It clearly doesn't work as intended, and I'm sure I saw on Apple's support boards that other people have reported the problem to Apple. I'm just surprised they haven't fixed it yet.

Hal Itosis 05-21-2009 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louislouis (Post 534175)
It clearly doesn't work as intended, and I'm sure I saw on Apple's support boards that other people have reported the problem to Apple. I'm just surprised they haven't fixed it yet.

People may have reported what they think is a problem... but that doesn't mean Apple agrees.

You continue to be a little one-sided here. What about those users who want the "None" setting to behave the way it does?
... i.e., "None" == NO CHANGE.

Under your scenario, how could they possibly achieve a 'no change' action?

You (and me) OTOH, can simply and very, VERY easily obtain our desired action... by simply assigning a specific EQ setting. You are trying to equate "None" with "Flat". If you want flat, then set it to flat. It's so easy... as has been articulated many, MANY times already. Just because you're too lazy to set EQ's doesn't mean that *other* users (those who want "None" to mean "no change") should have to suffer.

I suppose Apple could add a specific "No Change" item on that pop-up menu... but -- after all these years -- it isn't really needed. Both goals can be easily attained, as is.

--

In case you haven't noticed: after 5 months, no one else in this forum has stepped up to join your cause.

louislouis 05-21-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hal Itosis (Post 534219)
What about those users who want the "None" setting to behave the way it does?
... i.e., "None" == NO CHANGE.

Under your scenario, how could they possibly achieve a 'no change' action

The program is designed to let you individual EQ settings for each track. It is not meant to 'keep' the EQ setting you set for one track for subsequent tracks. Prior to version 8, it did this just fine. Since version 8 however, there has been this problem. I know there is a 'work-around' by setting all other tracks to 'flat' EQ setting, and making sure that any new tracks have this. But I would also like Apple to fix the bug ;), which would make it much easier for me and many other iTunes users.

Hal Itosis 05-22-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by louislouis (Post 534285)
The program is designed to let you individual EQ settings for each track. It is not meant to 'keep' the EQ setting you set for one track for subsequent tracks.

Actually it does both... you are merely unaware of all the facts, and/or the possible uses of a 'no change' setting. If "None" always forces a flat setting, then no one could ever use the EQ in a live context... get it?


Quote:

Originally Posted by louislouis (Post 534285)
Prior to version 8, it did this just fine.

Not quite factual either. As i informed you (on page 1): i've been using iTunes since version 1.0 and the whole reason i started adding EQ to every song in the first place was that: any song which had no specific assignment would assume the EQ of the song that previously played. [i.e., the very behavior you seek to prevent.] It's been that way all along as far as i recall. If Apple changed it briefly during some version or update, and you happened to come along at that point... well, them's the breaks. It's back to the behavior it had when equalization was introduced (version 2.0?).


Quote:

Originally Posted by louislouis (Post 534285)
Since version 8 however, there has been this problem. I know there is a 'work-around' by setting all other tracks to 'flat' EQ setting, and making sure that any new tracks have this. But I would also like Apple to fix the bug ;), which would make it much easier for me and many other iTunes users.

No bug, no workaround... rather, a lost cause with no hope. [works as intended.]
Just pretend that the "None" menu item says "No Change" and proceed accordingly.

At any rate, no one here can "fix" it for you... so if all you want is the last word go ahead, i'm finished now.

louislouis 05-23-2009 05:57 AM

I remember being very confused by how the equaliser settings applied to songs, so perhaps your memory of how it worked in early iTunes versions is different to how it actually worked? I'm convinced that iTunes is designed to:

1. Let you choose individual EQ settings for particular songs

2. Revert to no EQ for the others (the 'None' setting).

Other people have reported the same problem with iTunes version 8 -

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....sageID=8306498

Hal Itosis 05-23-2009 02:01 PM

[consult my previous posts]


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