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Jay Carr 12-05-2008 12:25 AM

Oddly the first thing I noticed when I got to rotten tomato's was the genre:"Foreign Film". That's interesting, basically that means the Moliere, Life is Beautiful, Akira and The Host are all in the same genre here in America...

Now that I've gotten that out of my system: I'll have to give Delicatessen a shot as well, it looks like it could be good.

On another note, why don't we have a "Suggest a Movie" thread on this forum. We have a "Suggest a Song" thread... (I'm not making it, I'll feel silly. For some reason suggesting something and then doing it makes me feel silly... Boy, that could probably use some psycho-analysis as well.)

tlarkin 12-05-2008 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Photek (Post 506557)
fazstp.... Zalister... take 2 hours out and watch A Clockwork Orange... its a seminal Stanley Kubrick movie...

Then take a few days and read the book

fazstp 12-05-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 506792)
Now that I've gotten that out of my system: I'll have to give Delicatessen a shot as well, it looks like it could be good.

Also by the same director The City of the Lost Children and Amélie.

tlarkin 12-05-2008 04:22 PM

The only thing that makes me cringe, and it does it every time with out fail, is when someone scrapes their fingernails against a flat surface, ie a chalkboard....

I get the chills and feel sick in my stomach.

fazstp 12-05-2008 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 506923)
The only thing that makes me cringe, and it does it every time with out fail, is when someone scrapes their fingernails against a flat surface, ie a chalkboard....

That one's a bit like biting on silver foil with your fillings.

blubbernaut 12-07-2008 07:50 PM

Or watching that footage of the weight lifter in the last olympics when his elbow.... eewwe!

I clicked on that video even though it kind of described it in the link, and I couldn't get it out of my head for the rest of the day!

fazstp 12-07-2008 08:23 PM

Don't know if you've seen this video of figure skaters Tatiana Totmianina and Maxim Marinin? You can test your cringe response about two minutes in.

fazstp 12-08-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 506785)
Harold and Maude sounds just a bit strange...

You might like the E-type Hearse


Jay Carr 12-10-2008 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 507422)

That hearse could only be used for *ahem* the vertically challenged. Personally I think that's one of the most depressing things I've seen in some time. If someone wanted to go and ruin a perfectly go E-Type, they could have just given it to me instead! :D

Okay, a bit more seriously, it's pretty clever :).

Hal Itosis 12-10-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Photek (Post 506557)
fazstp.... Zalister... take 2 hours out and watch A Clockwork Orange... its a seminal Stanley Kubrick movie...

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 506800)
Then take a few days and read the book


Welly well well well well... could someone decode the title for me? :confused:
I'm guessing orange is a veiled reference to blood maybe, but clockwork?
The mind maybe?

"A Clockwork Orange" -- meaning what?

fazstp 12-10-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hal Itosis (Post 507829)
"A Clockwork Orange" -- meaning what?

Not much?

fazstp 12-10-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 506653)
I know where I wont be going for movie recommendations in the future.

The Boys. This Aussie movie had some pretty strong performances and a moody soundtrack by The Necks.

Hal Itosis 12-10-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 507855)
Not much?

Perhaps its origin was such. But i decided to don my Google hat and see what else up with one could come:

Quotation from Burgess' Nov. 1986 introduction to "A Clockwork Orange Resucked":
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“…by definition, a human being is endowed with free will. He can use this to choose between good and evil. If he can only perform good or only perform evil, then he is a clockwork orange- meaning that he has the appearance of an organism lovely with colour and juice but is in fact only a clockwork toy to be wound up by God or the Devil or (since this is increasingly replacing both) the Almighty State. It is as inhuman to be totally good as it is to be totally evil. The important thing is moral choice.”

Some Yahoo "Answers" page (somewhere):
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In his essay "Clockwork Oranges", Burgess asserts that "this title would be appropriate for a story about the application of Pavlovian, or mechanical, laws to an organism which, like a fruit, was capable of colour and sweetness". This title alludes to the protagonist's positively conditioned responses to feelings of evil which prevent the exercise of his free will."

Alex speaking in "The 21st chapter of A Clockwork Orange":
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"And so it would itty on to like the end of the world, round and round and round, like some bolshy gigantic like chelloveck, like old Bog Himself (by courtesy of Korova Milkbar) turning and turning and turning a vonny grahzny orange in his gigantic rookers.”

tlarkin 12-10-2008 05:38 PM

Uh, the answer is 42......

Hal Itosis 12-10-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 507891)
Uh, the answer is 42......

If you want to survive out here, you've got to know where your towel is. :D

trevor 12-10-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hal Itosis (Post 507829)
Welly well well well well... could someone decode the title for me? :confused:
I'm guessing orange is a veiled reference to blood maybe, but clockwork?
The mind maybe?

"A Clockwork Orange" -- meaning what?

fazstp has the quote from the author above. But I think it means somewhat more than that--an orange is a natural thing--an organic thing. On the other hand, clockwork is a man-made thing. The lead character of A Clockwork Orange began as a natural thing (a very flawed natural thing), but the aversion therapy that he goes through turns him into a man-made thing unable to make decisions for himself, just going forward doing what the clockwork makes him do. Hence he is no longer natural, even if he may look natural. He is a clockwork orange.

Trevor

trevor 12-10-2008 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hal Itosis, written by Anthony Burgess
meaning that he has the appearance of an organism lovely with colour and juice but is in fact only a clockwork toy to be wound up by God or the Devil or (since this is increasingly replacing both) the Almighty State.

Ah, you beat me to the explanation.

Trevor

fazstp 12-10-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by trevor (Post 507895)
The lead character of A Clockwork Orange began as a natural thing (a very flawed natural thing), but the aversion therapy that he goes through turns him into a man-made thing unable to make decisions for himself, just going forward doing what the clockwork makes him do.

Speaking of people not making decisions for themselves (and rambling thread topics :o), I watched a doco the other night on Jonestown. It's pretty shocking what people will go along with when enthralled by a sociopath.

VirtualTracy 12-11-2008 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 507878)
The Boys. This Aussie movie had some pretty strong performances and a moody soundtrack by The Necks.

I hadn't heard of this film but it looks interesting, I'll have to watch out for it as I love aussie films, well most of 'em ... ;)

I didn't watch the Jonestown doc as I find that stuff too disturbing ...


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"And so it would itty on to like the end of the world, round and round and round, like some bolshy gigantic like chelloveck, like old Bog Himself (by courtesy of Korova Milkbar) turning and turning and turning a vonny grahzny orange in his gigantic rookers.”
Gotta love that Clockwork Orange teen speak :)

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Clockwork Orange Use of slang

The book, narrated by Alex, contains many words in a slang argot which Burgess invented for the book, called Nadsat. It is a mix of modified Slavic words, Polari, Cockney rhyming slang, derived Russian (like "baboochka"), and words invented by Burgess himself. For instance, these terms have the following meanings in Russian - 'droog' means 'friend' ; 'korova' means 'cow'; 'golova' (gulliver) means 'head'; 'malchick' or 'malchickiwick' means 'boy'; 'soomka' means 'sack' or 'bag'; 'Bog' means 'God'; 'khorosho' means good, 'prestoopnick' means 'criminal'; 'rooker' is 'hand', 'cal' is 'crap', 'vec' is 'old man'; 'litso' is 'face'; and so on. One of Alex's doctors explains the language to a colleague as "Odd bits of old rhyming slang; a bit of gypsy talk, too. But most of the roots are Slav propaganda. Subliminal penetration." Some words are not derived from anything, but merely easy to guess, e.g. 'in-out, in-out' or 'the old in-out' means sexual intercourse. 'Cutter', however, means money, because 'cutter' rhymes with 'bread-and-butter'; this is genuine Cockney rhyming slang, which is intended to be impenetrable to outsiders (especially eavesdropping policemen).

trevor 12-11-2008 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 507924)
It's pretty shocking what people will go along with when enthralled by a sociopath.

No sociopath needed. People will go along with shocking stuff if they're told to.

Trevor


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