I'll never buy another Mac if that is true.
I can accept not "sharing" video or music I buy on the internet, but they're not going to tell me when and where I'm allowed to watch it.

My view to a "T". I own several electronic devices that are getting old, but the newer versions sport some form of inbuilt DRM so I'm not upgrading them. To be told what ancillary devices I am permitted to connect to my Mac is outside the pale.

Does seem pretty extreme to restrict the output devices. I'd probably avoid the iTunes content though rather than avoiding buying another Mac if that's the only time this restriction comes up.

Yeah, we are responding to rather scanty info.

The original linked article doesn't sound like it's a problem - it only blocks content with DRM, yes? All the anti-drm folks (seems to be most of the above) won't be bothered by it as their content is clean, and anyone else trying to put their iStore-downloaded movie through a projector will just have to learn about a couple more programs.

I'll buy a new box - I don't have anything with DRM :D

Neither do I, but think about that: it means that folks selling content are missing sales because we won't buy.

You mean that you'll never buy another computer then. Certainly not a Windows box, and I doubt very much that Linux won't end up with some DRM in it if you're ever going to see commercial movies available on the platform.

This is not coming from Apple. If you don't want DRM, you're going to have to apply pressure to the movie industry.

Linux is open source written by the people for the people so to speak and I highly doubt DRM will enter, because DRM can't abide by open source standards to begin with, which is why when I buy a DRM product from company A, I must use company A's preferred method of playing such media, and company A's DRM product won't play in my open source media players nor will it support other formats or can I transfer it to other systems.

DRM will have to change for Linux to adopt it. PC hardware is cheaper than a Mac anyway, you may be doing yourself a favor switching to Linux.

Windows, I can't argue there, there is DRM in it for sure. Then again I don't use any DRM products besides Windows itself on my Windows boxes.

Which means essentially what I wrote. If you don't get the movie industry to abandon DRM, then if you're ever going to see commercial movies available on the platform, either the developer who puts it there will have to agree to the movie industry's demand for DRM, or commercial movies won't be on the platform.

I don't care if I never see commercial movies on my computer if I have to live with ridiculous equipment hobbling to get them. Having said that, I have purchased exactly one iTunes track to test the water but nothing else in my playlists has come from iTunes.

Unfortunately, I think that's the only choice consumers have. If the movie makers aren't pressured, then the hardware/software is going to come with DRM or the platform won't have commercial movies.

It’s the temper of the times, CWT. One crazy tries to light off a shoe bomb on a trans-Atlantic flight and thereafter everyone (in the USA anyway) walks shoeless through airport security. My wife and I used to travel a lot, now restrict ourselves to places we can drive to -- can't bear the hassle of getting on an airplane, with all the restrictions that now apply. The same will apply to electronics -- make it sufficiently inconvenient and I'll stop doing whatever it is. We both still enjoy reading books, rarely watch anything on TV except news programs; the rest is crap.

Proving exactly what again?

I'm approaching 4,000 iTunes purchases (well, some are the freebies they post every week... like
videos from Coldplay, Sia, and others). I gotta say, using the iTunes Store has been an extremely
enjoyable user experience... and i've discovered hundreds of bands i wouldn't have otherwise.

There may be some deep "principle" behind your boycott, but you're actually missing out
on a lot of fun (for what still seems to be incomprehensible or confused reasons).

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As for the new encrypted screens, like cwtnospam pointed out: that's not Apple's idea.
They have to follow suit in order to be allowed to get their equipment to play the stuff
that *other* forces have deemed necessary. Blaming Apple (see subject title) is dumb.

-HI-

And even the news is 90% fluff. Ain't capitalism $grand?

That I'm a cranky old fart who didn't like that I couldn't do anything I wanted to with that purchased sound (and I don't mean post it on Kazaa).

What is it you think can't be done then?
Once burned to CD it's 100% DRM-free.
You could even post it to Kazaa then. ;)

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P.S. - while quite familiar with The Guess Who and Joni Mitchell and Rush and Triumph (as well as B.T.O., Diana Krall, Loverboy, Neil Young, Robbie Robertson, etc.), some Canadian artists who i otherwise probably would not have heard of and purchased music from (were it not for iTunes) include: Amanda Marshall, Amy Millan (Stars), Arcade Fire, Broken Social Scene, Caribou, Chad VanGaalen, Daniel Lanois, Death From Above 1979, Emily Haines & The Soft Skeleton (Metric), Feist, The High Dials, Hot Hot Heat, Immaculate Machine, Jason Collett, The Kings, The Most Serene Republic, The New Pornographers, Pilot Speed, Ron Sexsmith, The Stills, Thousand Foot Krutch, and Vega4.

I'm truly worried that people like Tom Waits (see some of his lyrics above in this thread) might disappear from the shelves.

Although your example lyric sounds a bit like one from Neil Young, and I worry about him too.

Trevor

I didn't buy an iPod until 3rd gen Nanos came out, and while they are great products and I now own an iPod touch, I do hate, no I despise the fact that I am stuck using iTunes and that I can not easily transfer my media from one Mac to my other 4 via my iPod touch.

I would love iTunes a lot more if the sync could copy back and forth from all machines with all media files with out a hitch. While, no one can sit back there and blame apple for this at all, they can blame DRM, the media companies, and everyone else who wants a cut of the money involved in such things.

I jail broke my iPhone and my iPod and I would never use the native software because I don't like being told what I can and can't do with my products.

Apple makes a great end user product that I won't deny and that I will lobby for them. Their ways of telling you how to do sometihng is sometimes ridiculous. Apple has a way of making it really hard to accomplish something outside their scope at times and it is definitely frustrating.

All the while the consumer's options are very limited, and often are forced into a certain market or market type.

Of course my rant is not totally exclusive to DRM and the ITMS, but I think they tie in together. I think that Apple has definitely taken some small steps in the right direction. I would love direct high speed downloads over going out and buying media at a store, since I can instantly get it and it should be cheaper since bandwidth is probably cheaper than manufacturing costs and over head.

However, I digress a bit, that even though the right steps have been taken in my view, it has not been totally in the right direction. Apple has a market for this, and the customers are buying it. They are making money and they have proved it over the years. Apple could pressure the companies to say, hey, look at what we are doing and making money. You want a cut? Well play nice and allow us to give the consumers what they want. It isn't out of the realm for Apple to help pull for the end user.

That being said, I don't use the ITMS because I still buy and collect vinyl records. So, my opinion could be completely non valid to those who use and love the ITMS.

Distorted Loop.com: All majors plot path to iTunes Plus DRM-free - report

Trevor

yes I have heard those rumors too, but it is still a rumor until Apple actually does it.