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ArcticStones 08-14-2008 06:47 AM

Bigfoot
 
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Elvis lives – but Bigfoot (or one of them) is supposedly dead.
Time will tell. There is supposed to be a news conference tomorrow. Despite photographic evidence I’m not holding my breath...

Felix_MC 08-14-2008 09:15 AM

The site of the people who 'captured' it sure had many visitors lately.
It exceeded it's bandwidth limit.
http://www.searchingforbigfoot.com/

Whatever happened to those Chupacapras they found in Texas last year? :p

ArcticStones 08-14-2008 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix_MC (Post 488278)
Whatever happened to those Chupacapras they found in Texas last year?

I heard rumours they got elected.

joraamn 08-14-2008 11:47 AM

The chupacabra was recently filmed by some deputies :eek:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a13_1218564871

kel101 08-14-2008 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 488265)
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Elvis lives – but Bigfoot (or one of them) is supposedly dead.
Time will tell. There is supposed to be a news conference tomorrow. Despite photographic evidence I’m not holding my breath...

that second link is dead :(, oh well i have my own big feet to start at :D

ArcticStones 08-14-2008 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kel101 (Post 488347)
that second link is dead

No, but I think Cryptomundo’s server is down, having trouble tackling the traffic.

trevor 08-14-2008 06:20 PM

Here's the story on timesonline.co.uk, complete with picture: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4531119.ece

Trevor

trevor 08-14-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joraamn (Post 488291)
The chupacabra was recently filmed by some deputies :eek:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a13_1218564871

Why would anyone think that's anything other than a dog?

Trevor

aehurst 08-14-2008 08:29 PM

Hmmmm. Seven feet, seven inches, 500 lbs.... in Georgia, USA. I guess the relevant questions are: Are there more? Are they American citizens? Can they be be taught to play basketball?

cwtnospam 08-14-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aehurst (Post 488384)
Are they American citizens?

Doesn't matter. If they'll work cheap, they can get H1B visas. :eek:

Felix_MC 08-14-2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevor (Post 488369)
Why would anyone think that's anything other than a dog?

Trevor

Maybe because of this?
And all the other ones.. :D

kel101 08-15-2008 06:42 AM

why the hell arnt there any full photos...makes me think this is all bs

tw 08-15-2008 11:20 PM

of course it's BS. you'd need at least several thousand of these creatures to maintain a viable breeding population, and at 500 lbs per creature, that's a hell of a lot of forage area required. not to mention that as primates, it would be far more likely to encounter them in small clan groups than traveling alone. it makes no biological or primatological sense.

and having said that (of course) I'll probably have to eat my words. I swear, would go out of its way to create bigfoot just to make me sound like an idjit. :D

NovaScotian 08-16-2008 10:51 AM

I like tw's take -- the notion that an undiscovered "population" of such beings exists in the USA is right in there with UFOs -- perhaps they're aliens?? :eek:

ArcticStones 08-16-2008 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaScotian (Post 488670)
-- perhaps they're aliens?? :eek:

Illegal aliens! :mad:

NovaScotian 08-16-2008 03:07 PM

Certainly puts paid to the notion that UFOs are piloted by "little green men", doesn't it? :confused:

tw 08-16-2008 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaScotian (Post 488698)
Certainly puts paid to the notion that UFOs are piloted by "little green men", doesn't it? :confused:

unfortunately, no. the little green men probably come from a much warmer planet, and need thick hairy bigfoot suits to keep from freezing to death on earth.

NovaScotian 08-16-2008 05:24 PM

Ahh, tw; hadn't thought of that: hairy environmental suits.

kel101 08-16-2008 06:36 PM

wow this thread has gotten real stupid real fast haha

oh well when in rome
http://www.swapmeetdave.com/Humor/Cats/CatLaugh.jpg

tw 08-16-2008 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kel101 (Post 488719)
wow this thread has gotten real stupid real fast haha

what, you expected this thread to get smart???? :D

kel101 08-17-2008 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 488728)
what, you expected this thread to get smart???? :D

*massive sigh of disappointment*

Jay Carr 08-17-2008 09:45 AM

For some odd reason I spent a bunch of time last night looking up theories on Bigfoot. It was some pretty interesting stuff. There were a few who claimed that up to 2000 could be living in North America. Their explanation as to why we don't see them much is that their ancestors were hunted to near extinction by homo erectus. Thus, those Bigfoots that survived became nocturnal, hide during the day and now avoid humans out of habit, thus allowing them to survive. My friend Andy, a paleontologist, tells me that this kind of rapid evolution squares nicely with the evolutionary theory called Punctuated Equilibrium. Which states that evolution is not so much "survival of the fittest" but is rather "those who survive the major disasters breed". On top of all this, Jane Goodall actually believes in Bigfoot based on the evidence that she has seen. And considering her years of experience with primates...

Now, I realize that all of this sounds extremely reasonable, and I worry that my being reasonable is going to screw this thread up pretty bad. So, one other theory that I read last night is that Bigfoot is actually a trans-dimensional being who can go in between our world and any other dimension at will. If only the things I smoked were actually that good...

NovaScotian 08-17-2008 10:14 AM

On this more serious note, Yetis and Bigfoots (Bigfeet?) are, to me, in there with UFO sightings based on fuzzy reports and photographs. Clearly punctuated equilibrium makes sense (I have read that all living Cheetahs descend from only a dozen or so from a ten to twelve thousand year ago near extinction and yet still barely hang on (endangered by a defective sperm gene and too closely related)), but it's tw's point that there would have been at least one killed by a hunter by now and brought forward for examination, or the remains of one discovered somewhere.

To really spoil any latent belief, read "Ten Reasons Why Bigfoot's a Bust"

tw 08-17-2008 06:49 PM

there are all sorts of perfectly reasonable theories to go along with the perfectly unreasonable ones. for instance, a Jungian approach would be to say that Bigfoot is an unconscious archetype derived from proto-human experience - we come out of the womb with a 'wild man' image in our heads the way that chickens come out of the egg with an instinctive recognition of the silhouette of a hawk. or a cultural anthropological approach would be to say that bigfoot is a persistent story handed down from pre-cultural experiences with neanderthals (I've heard similar explanations of UFOs, incidentally - UFOs are simply the modernistic manifestation of the same thing that made older cultures see angels, demons, afreet, etc.). until there's some reasonable evidence that people are actually seeing something concrete, we have to consider the possibility that people are seeing something that we are all predisposed to see, even when it's not actually there. a kind of complex optical illusion...

you can distinguish reasonable theories from stupid theories on the grounds of logic, but to distinguish which of several good theories is correct, you need evidence. otherwise it's just a matter of belief. Bigfoot as an as-yet unseen species is not a stupid theory by any means, but I would have expected some evidence given the interest in the subject (corpses, hair detritus, scat, telltale foraging marks, refuse heaps).

Jay Carr 08-18-2008 02:58 AM

Well, my personal take on it is this. I don't believe bigfoots exist because there is no evidence to support the claim. But, I don't believe they don't exist either, because I've seen enough circumstantial evidence to leave a reasonable doubt in my mind as to his lack of existence... If that makes sense. Basically I'm a bigfoot agnostic :D.

I personally don't buy into the idea that we would have seen substantial evidence by now if these guys existed. First off, we may have said evidence already (who knows, maybe one of those videos is the real thing), but no one will believe it because we all think it's a hoax. As for collecting evidence... Well, the only people who are willing don't have the credentials that would make any of us believe them. And, sadly, no one with the credentials is likely to try. Why? Because they would be laughed right out of the academic community, possibly lose funding for projects they are working on, etc etc. No sane person, with a family and career to support, would jeopardize themselves like that.

Anyway, my hope is that some day someone will make a serious investigation into the matter. Perhaps get some funding so they can go do infrared scans of deep woodland areas during the night. See if they find anything interesting. I personally won't be convinced that bigfoot (feet?) don't exist until someone (with credentials and funding) has made a serious effort to try to prove that they exist, and failed.

kel101 08-18-2008 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 488887)
Well, my personal take on it is this. I don't believe bigfoots exist because there is no evidence to support the claim. But, I don't believe they don't exist either, because I've seen enough circumstantial evidence to leave a reasonable doubt in my mind as to his lack of existence... If that makes sense. Basically I'm a bigfoot agnostic :D.

I personally don't buy into the idea that we would have seen substantial evidence by now if these guys existed. First off, we may have said evidence already (who knows, maybe one of those videos is the real thing), but no one will believe it because we all think it's a hoax. As for collecting evidence... Well, the only people who are willing don't have the credentials that would make any of us believe them. And, sadly, no one with the credentials is likely to try. Why? Because they would be laughed right out of the academic community, possibly lose funding for projects they are working on, etc etc. No sane person, with a family and career to support, would jeopardize themselves like that.

Anyway, my hope is that some day someone will make a serious investigation into the matter. Perhaps get some funding so they can go do infrared scans of deep woodland areas during the night. See if they find anything interesting. I personally won't be convinced that bigfoot (feet?) don't exist until someone (with credentials and funding) has made a serious effort to try to prove that they exist, and failed.



so after a well thought through conclusion,,you came up with maybe?

real intellects we got here

NovaScotian 08-18-2008 09:32 AM

My own take is that the likelihood that Bigfoots (...feet?) exist (along with Yetis, etc.) is about the same as the likelihood that Elvis is alive and well.

kel101 08-18-2008 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaScotian (Post 488927)
My own take is that the likelihood that Bigfoots (...feet?) exist (along with Yetis, etc.) is about the same as the likelihood that Elvis is alive and well.

Well.......


Never mind too easy, :rolleyes:

NovaScotian 08-18-2008 10:37 AM

I knew there'd be one! :D

Jay Carr 08-18-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kel101 (Post 488917)
so after a well thought through conclusion,,you came up with maybe?

real intellects we got here

I think you're confusing "maybe" with "needs more research". And, by the way, you can't compare Elvis and Bigfoots, with Elvis we have a body :D.

wdympcf 08-18-2008 02:46 PM

Quote:

Bigfoot as an as-yet unseen species is not a stupid theory by any means
That's because it's not a theory - at best, it can be labeled a hypothesis!

Quote:

so after a well thought through conclusion,,you came up with maybe?

real intellects we got here
A real intellect only draws a conclusion when there is sufficient evidence to merit one. A 'truly astounding intellect' just sits back and takes cheap shots at the real intellects :p

kel101 08-18-2008 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdympcf (Post 488980)
That's because it's not a theory - at best, it can be labeled a hypothesis!



A real intellect only draws a conclusion when there is sufficient evidence to merit one. A 'truly astounding intellect' just sits back and takes cheap shots at the real intellects :p

whooo im astounding.... though i'll be honest, not the first time ive heard that :p

tw 08-18-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 488887)
Well, my personal take on it is this. I don't believe bigfoots exist because there is no evidence to support the claim. But, I don't believe they don't exist either, because I've seen enough circumstantial evidence to leave a reasonable doubt in my mind as to his lack of existence...

errr... Schrodinger's bigfoot???

tw 08-18-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdympcf (Post 488980)
That's because it's not a theory - at best, it can be labeled a hypothesis!

not even, really. at best it's a speculative assertion. A hypothesis would require fitting bigfoot into the current theoretical framework so that it explains something other then the occasional random bigfoot sighting

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdympcf (Post 488980)
A real intellect only draws a conclusion when there is sufficient evidence to merit one. A 'truly astounding intellect' just sits back and takes cheap shots at the real intellects :p

ah, piffle. :) as I always say, the difference between regular people and scientists is that regular people jump to conclusions, while scientists wait until they trip over them.

kel101 08-18-2008 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 489024)
not even, really. at best it's a speculative assertion. A hypothesis would require fitting bigfoot into the current theoretical framework so that it explains something other then the occasional random bigfoot sighting



ah, piffle. :) as I always say, the difference between regular people and scientists is that regular people jump to conclusions, while scientists wait until they trip over them.

what does that make me

tw 08-18-2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kel101 (Post 489025)
what does that make me

a goon? :D

fazstp 08-18-2008 08:29 PM

For those still doubting the existence of bigfoot here is more evidence of their claim.


Jay Carr 08-18-2008 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 489043)
For those still doubting the existence of bigfoot here is more evidence of their claim.


But he looks nothing like any of the previous photos I've seen!

fazstp 08-19-2008 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 489057)
But he looks nothing like any of the previous photos I've seen!

I guess they cleaned him up for the press conference.


wdympcf 08-19-2008 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 489024)
not even, really. at best it's a speculative assertion. A hypothesis would require fitting bigfoot into the current theoretical framework so that it explains something other then the occasional random bigfoot sighting.

Not necessarily true - bigfoot is just one more name in the search for the "missing link". The theoretical framework, as mentioned earlier, is Punctuated Equilibrium. The primary difference between bigfoot nuts and "missing link" proponents (aside from scientific training and socioeconomic background among other things) is the fact that the bigfoot nuts believe the missing link is still alive today.

kel101 08-19-2008 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 489027)
a goon? :D

if im a goon, what does that make the rest of you, cuz of course im the best person here :D

johngpt 08-19-2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 489021)
errr... Schrodinger's bigfoot???

Ooh, that's good.

Sherman Homan 08-19-2008 11:21 AM

Gee, the photo looked so real!
http://www.wzzm13.com/news/watercool...97263&catid=82
Quote:

Over the weekend, the group called Searching for Bigfoot, Incorporated got its hands on what they believed was a frozen Sasquatch. They say they it came from the men who claimed to have found Bigfoot in the woods of northern Georgia.

But as the ice began to thaw, the group discovered that the frozen remains were actually a rubber ape costume.

Searching for Bigfoot is planning to take legal action.
http://macintoshsolutions.com/test/bigfoot.jpg

kel101 08-19-2008 01:09 PM

so what your saying is they failed...big time?

Sherman Homan 08-19-2008 01:11 PM

Epic Bigfoot Fail!

kel101 08-19-2008 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherman Homan (Post 489144)
Epic Bigfoot Fail!

:( theres no "bigfoot fail" pictures on google :(

Felix_MC 08-19-2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kel101 (Post 489152)
:( theres no "bigfoot fail" pictures on google :(

There are on my website :D
http://tgraphicz.890m.com/bigfootfail.png

kel101 08-19-2008 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix_MC (Post 489156)
There are on my website :D
*stupid picture*

thats not funny or in anyway witty....oh times up wheres my beta?

Felix_MC 08-19-2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kel101 (Post 489170)
thats not funny or in anyway witty....oh times up wheres my beta?

Beta's due on Wednesday. Still Tuesday here ;)
No Jamie IM for you :p
I'd better go get started on that beta!:rolleyes:

kel101 08-19-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix_MC (Post 489185)
Beta's due on Wednesday. Still Tuesday here ;)
No Jamie IM for you :p
I'd better go get started on that beta!:rolleyes:

come on aim

im starting to think me and you need our own subforum, where we can talk :p

mods get on it! lool

johngpt 08-19-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kel101 (Post 489190)
come on aim

im starting to think me and you need our own subforum, where we can talk :p

mods get on it! lool

Ah, you guys are way too entertaining to be shunted off somewhere else. :D

tw 08-20-2008 03:50 AM

oh come on, I can't believe no one's said this already...

Looks like they got their bigfoot stuck in their mouth. :D

kel101 08-20-2008 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tw (Post 489282)
oh come on, I can't believe no one's said this already...

Looks like they got their bigfoot stuck in their mouth. :D

it hurts....to read something like that first thing in the morning

johngpt 08-20-2008 09:57 PM

"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry, and that's extra scary to me. There's a large out of focus monster roaming the countryside. Look out, he's fuzzy, let's get out of here."

Mitch Hedberg

ArcticStones 08-24-2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaScotian (Post 488927)
My own take is that the likelihood that Bigfoots (...feet?) exist (along with Yetis, etc.) is about the same as the likelihood that Elvis is alive and well.

Hey! I’ll have you know Mr Costello is alive and well, thank you. ;)

johngpt 08-24-2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 489937)
Hey! I’ll have you know Mr Costello is alive and well, thank you. ;)

Saw him, and Abbott at Starbucks the other day.

biovizier 08-31-2008 05:58 PM

errmm...

# On his copy of OS X on his Mac at home, Mikey-San has Fixed The Fracking Finder. And he has already used it to find bigfoot.

johngpt 08-31-2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biovizier (Post 491189)
errmm...

# On his copy of OS X on his Mac at home, Mikey-San has Fixed The Fracking Finder. And he has already used it to find bigfoot.


Wish we had Smilies for LMAO!


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