Duke Nukem Forever official game preview!
 

http://www.gametrailers.com/remote_wrap.php?mid=36746

LOL. This is the official game trailer being shown at the E3 gaming convention. Probably the worst game trailer ever made. I actually watched through the entire thing.

That is pretty bad...I think I have a headache now! That game was awesome though back in the day.

That's just an advert for the trilogy. Not the mythological "Duke Nukem Forever". But you are correct that the advert was crap.

that game will come out next year.. i hope.

Speaking of games e3 this year was a bit of a crapfest, i mean did you see the nintendo keynote...it was embarrassing, and then M$ just copied miis, and sony well were, the only decent ones. (though after the final fantasy announcement all hell has broken loose in the gaming forums)

Woops, your right. Not Forever, but Trilogy.

I think maybe the trailer was was made as a joke?

BEST TRAILER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND

DUKE IS GOING TO TEAR OFF YOUR HEAD AND CRAP DOWN THE HOLE

ALLLLLLLLLLLLL OUTTA GUM

the mods need to grant me special permission to make all-caps posts

As long as you plan on being our "fanboi designee" I don't see a problem with it.

No.
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...enderer-41.jpg

Blasphemy! Have faith, it has to happen eventually right? Maybe not in your lifetime, but your childrens children will surely know the joys of Duke Nukem...Forever.

actually not too long ago they announced something about it ..... so its still alive

anways im gonna go play some more metal gear solid 4 :)
Geez the beauty bosses are so weird, makes me think all women get to be like that. (youtube it if you dont know :p)

It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of gum!



I remember back when I was a low totem IT tech, and we could actually play LAN games of Duke at work. I used to love to shrink my co-workers and then give them the boot.

Ah, the good old days.

I also remember the spin off game, shadow warrior.

You chop a guy in half with your samurai sword and say, "Ahh, split personality!!!!"

Pure genius!

wow you lot take this game a bit too....... Then again
i change my mind
http://i33.tinypic.com/t97j2f.jpg

Erm...the dashboard redesign? I look WAY forward to that.

Yeah, Microsoft copied Miis (But it's totally optional mind you), but the dashboard redesign is something that I've been waiting for. Also: Netflix.

Sony made things a bit interesting in their presentation...but also fell short. a new PS2? NEW PS2? Think about that. Get yourselves out of the last generation, and focus on supporting the PS3! That just reeks of the whole Motorola-bleeds-the-RAZR-til-it-don't-bleed-no-more thing. Bleeding the PS2 until no-one's buying it anymore.

Also, I hear the 80GB PS2 is going to have crippled backwards compatibility. Considering that is one of the fewer strengths of the PS3, Sony's doing in their own console.

Also, as you said: Final Fantasy 13.

dude its 80gb ps3, they didnt announce a new ps2 lol, its only the 40gb that doesnt have bc :( but theres gonna be an update that allows that eventually.

:eek:did you see the mirrors edge gameplay? looked awesome

I was referencing a newly designed slim PS2, which seems to have the power supply integrated into the PS2 itself, eliminating the brick.

Also...functionality being included in an update? Huh? Why is that? The previous PS3 had backwards compatibility. And yet it has to be rolled into a separate update for the new PS3s? Unless Sony's retooling the compatibility, this isn't excusable.

I'm guessing it's a typo. However:
http://www.betanews.com/article/Sony...n_3/1216152783

I think Sony may be removing BC from the new model...?

let me fill you in. The 60gb is the only ps3 that had full bc, it had the actuall hardware necessary to do it (ps2 games) The 40 gb can only play ps1 games. And the 80gb can play all ps2 and ps1 games, but the ps2 games are played via software emulation. Therefore it would only take a software update for the 40gb to play ps2 games. Though with threedee's post, im not too sure about these new 80gb's. But they did announce that this software emulation update will be made sometime this year.

And sony still focous on the ps2, cuz they have like 100 million + ps2 owners, and they need them to eventually make the leap to ps3. So by making new stuff for them, they remain sony consumers, until the ps3 has some more exclusives, and is a little cheaper

As regards to the new live interface, its just really the ps3 xmb, with coverflow slapped on top (come on you know thats true)

...oh boy I don't feel like getting into a war here.

I won't speak more on the new dash until I've actually played with it. But it looks better than the drab system blades, for sure.

I've played with the PS3 XMB, and I did like it. It's very minimal. But the 360's dash, new and old, looks NOTHING like the XMB. The old dash functions NOTHING like the XMB, unless of course, you count a ton of options being grouped under different categories. But that sort of functionality exists in every well-designed UI.

Also: Compatibilty info can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3

They didn't just copy it, they ripped it off the look of the Mii completely. I get on people here for bashing Microsoft, but if there's anything they should be ripped on for, it's this. It's really pathetic that they couldn't come up with something unique here, and opted to pull "oh well we'll just make these look exactly like someone else's hard work" instead.

The Dashboard screens/mockups themselves floating around aren't really that good either. Microsoft has had a long time to get the 360 Dashboard right, and still can't come up with something that is really good? Faaaaaaaaaaail.

yaay mikeys on my side!!

Though anti, i am no fanboy, i do play all 3 consoles although i only own the ps3, and i like all of them for different reasons, but im JUST commenting on what came across from E3, and what i said about the new ui being like XMB was confirmed by many sites, like gamespot and gametrailers

Same here. I only own the 360, though. The PS3 has much potential, it's just a crying shame that Sony fouled it up so badly. Especially moreso with their 2nd-rate customer service.

I thought their customer service was great, i reported a problem, and they called me back when they said they would to give me updates etc...maybe its just the US customer service who are a little slack :rolleyes:

Yes, it is.

My PS2 started giving me the dead "Disc Read Error" and I called them up. The console was under warranty, and they claimed that I had dropped the console (How can you tell OVER THE PHONE? Without looking at it?), and as such, my warranty was now void.

I let it go...and got myself a slim PS2 in 2006. It gave me good service, until it mysteriously died. Stopped reading ANY discs, just all around wouldn't work. I phoned Sony, and they wanted $100 to repair it! a $129 console, $100 repair? Not workin' for me.

Binned it and bought a 360. Hasn't failed me.....yet.

The PS3 concept is rubbish. Although, sure with the cell processor you could feasibly not ever have to upgrade it for a long time. However, when the next gen Wiis and 360s come out, what will Sony do then? The PS4?

It is way over priced and its features aren't even being taken advantage of. It is spec'd kind of ridiculous in my views, and there are no ground breaking PS3 only titles out right now. Maybe, MGS4, which I will admit I do want to play since I have played all the other ones, but I can't justify buying a system for just one game.

Mgs4 is all kinds of awesome, got it last week. Well wouldnt it be like the ps2... the 10 year life cycle, i mean thats still getting exclusives. And as far as specs go many games have taken advantage of it to set it apart from the 360, uncharted for example, and there is rumors afoot that Crysis is being ported to the ps3, littlebigplanet. Besides remember that the 360 has a year advantage over the ps3, so its exclusives will be pushing it futher than ps3 exclusives, next year you will see what all that power can do, like with god of war 3 and infamous, uncharted 2, future metal gear titles, and R* exclusives like la noire (and a new R* Ip) , oh and this:
(last 4 paragraphs) http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technolog...nces_back.html

And as far as the price is concerned, remember its also a blu-ray player, which is pretty much future proof so when blu ray gets to 1.4+ you wont need a new ps3, just a software update.

i would like an xbox, but i dont have the cash :(. but online costs which is another major downer, and to be fair pretty much all the exclusives come out for windows anyways. And they didnt show really anything of theres which is coming out next year at e3, all they showed was gears and fable, the rest of the games were all Multi platform, and MS had just shed loads of cash to get them to be timed exclusives, or for some exclusive dlc... really which i think is just bad for gaming, and im sure they are making a HUGE loss from it, Bit like the gta4 dlc they bought for $50 million, even though its comming out for ps3 a year later

Though i feel this thread is becoming a fanboy war, which im sure mikey is loving, and he'll show this with a worthy picture, but until then we can either continue this "debate" or end it? (since i pretty much won :p)

You know what else was future proof?

beta max
VHS
mini disk
CDs
Laser Discs
DVDs


I am not buying it. My brother has one and it doesn't impress me for the price, plus 1080p is 1080p regardless of what media you use. I am not saying I won't ever own one, but I just can't justify owning one right now. Perhaps when the technology is taken advantage of, and actually put to use and the price drops, then I will probably get one.

Plus, I hear that the PS3 is a pain to develop for and the dev kits are awfully expensive. Plus what happened to Final fantasy being a Sony exclusive?

Exclusives don't mean much to me in the long run because in the end most things get ported anyway. Metal Gear has been ported to both the original xbox and the gamecube.

Just as a point of order, consoles aren't really about graphical power, their about the games that you have on the system. Granted, a lot of power does help with that, but it's not necessarily essential.

Yeah but a game like metal gear solid 4, would be near impossible to port, unless you wanted something like 10 discs to play it on, (actually more like 14 because of the installs required) And like i said final fantasy was only ported cuz MS threw a shed load of money towards square enix, as a result the ps3 version will be delayed, and ultimately suffer. And even the xbox version of that will be on 5+ disks.

i think your right there, a lot of money seems to be helping ms, and nintendo are able to sell millions of any gimmicky add on to the wii-mote

The Wii is not gimmicky. Nintendo decided to, y'know, innovate on their current-gen console, and that's what they came up with. With games like Twilight Princess, and Metroid Prime 3, the Wii really shines.

We need more games like that for the Wii. But we also have games such as Wii Fit, Wii Sports, etc, that are fun to play.

And the MotionPlus add-on? That was Nintendo's answer to people complaining en-masse about the vast inaccuracy of the wiimote's IR sensor.

And the "money" thing: Sony has a lot of money to kick around, since they take a loss on each PS3 sold. Why don't they throw some of that on getting some exclusives behind the PS3? I know MGS4 is a great game...but a console getting moved by one game such as MGS4 is still pretty...pathetic, so to speak.

But its had more than just that one game, like i said, games like uncharted,(which graphically looks better than mgs4) gran turismo, warhawk, resistance, motorstorm and many more, also there are plenty of exclusives coming like mag resistance 2, heavy rain, killzone 2, littlebigplanet and infamous coming, the fact that you think theres only one real game for the ps3, is pretty narrow minded...so to speak.

When i said the wii was gimicky i meant like all the stupid addons, like a steering wheel attachment, or a golfclub attachment, they dont help in anyway, yet people still buy them cuz they look all nice and shiny. And what games do they have apart from the same over used ips like zelda and mario (even if they are great games) really the only new thing they announced whick looked good was madworld

I'm too tired to compose a riposte, so I'll just refer to one of my quotes.

"Graphics do not make the game."

I ask: Do I need to begin making references to Final Fantasy X-2?

I wouldnt know i dont really care for most rpg's after dungeon keeper, and even though i agree with you, Graphics do help with immersion, like with mgs4, if you play the motorcycle scene you'd know what i mean. For a game to be truly good it needs to excel in all areas, graphics included, though in some cases if the game is that great, graphics can be overlooked if they are below par.

Im gonna go eat now :cool: good talk...

Definitely. I like debates to sharpen my mind.

It's like 3:30 AM here, so I'm going to bed.

lol its 11.45 am here.... you really shouldnt be wasting sleep time talking to me :p

Kel-

Actually, blu ray isn't even being used to it's capacity. With processors getting faster compression technology gets better. DVD9 can store like 15 gigs of data compressed. So, it wouldn't be 15 DVDs.

*gets back from lunch* "oh geez here we go again"
errm ok so it would still be more than 5, since mgs uses the full 50gb's, and installs, and has v.high audio quality, and its 1080p, still you get my point right? Even having 2 discs is annoying, regardless of how great the game is. And surly by your own argument the same would apply to blu-ray. In any case, the next line of sequels are all using the full 50gbs. and if dvd9 could pull of being able to hold 15gb+ why isnt it making a come back, and being used to sell hd movies etc?

I don't think a lot of those games on blu ray use any compression because of the capacity. Granted, with faster hardware and better compression technology. I mean Crysis came on 1 DVD and it was one of the most intensively graphic games of all time. I don't see how blu ray is justified, other than whatever propaganda Sony puts out on it.

granted, but that also had a 12gb install, MGS is justified with the fact that it has epicly long ingame cutscenes. Though im sure mikey knows how and why blu ray is used in gaming better then we do

Rumor has it that the devs for MGS4 were stupid and used uncompressed PCM audio. They could have at least used lossless compression (wavpack, flac, etc.), which keeps 100% of the audio quality unlike lossy compression like mp3, aac, etc.) and reduces the file size by almost half.
http://www.google.com/search?q=MGS4+uncompressed+audio

Video (if any) could also be compressed by using H.264 MPEG4 compression instead of using the old MPEG2 video compression. Both are official Blu-ray supported codecs, so it shouldn't be a problem.

I find that many games are being sloppily developed so the system requirements go up. If the devs were to optimize games better (Crysis, I'm looking at you), I bet it would still run great on slightly older systems.

Even then you can compress cut scenes since they are pre-rendered and take up a lot less space over all.

How many gigs do you think a Pixar film is? It fits on one dvd.

they are not pre-rendered in mgs, they are all real time, in-game, in engine cut scenes,

Why would they not pre render them? It would take up less space and run better.

Oh well, either way the PS3 is not worth the money regardless and no one is taking full advantage of the hardware other than being sloppy.

I will buy one when the price drops.

*EDIT*

Actually there are some prerendered cut scenes according to a google search, though some of them are in game.

Most of sony's tech is their proprietary response to an established tech standard.

I would say "Think Apple's ADC here", but ADC was actually a clever solution that looked good on paper, but didn't catch on.

Look at the Memory Stick (Battling SD cards), TransferJet (Wireless USB), and the UMD.

Also: Think about this: Microsoft is allowing for games to be copied to the HDD and played from the HDD, to decrease load times. All you have to do is pop the disc in to prove you have the physical game. Think. Hard drive upgrade + Games coming over just install discs or something of the sort = optical disc storage space is a moot point.

Disk I/O from optical won't be as fast as a hard drive, and with solid state becoming cheaper and better I bet we see next gen consoles with solid state. So much for the future proof PS3.....:rolleyes:

you know i doubt solid state will be that cheap and be that big storage wise, to be in consoles, think about it they will all be at least 120gb+ because of downloadable things taking so much space like 1080p movies

SSD prices are falling, and capacities are increasing.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/15/r...-flavors-star/

32GB for $170, 128GB for $537.90. 256GB about to be released soon. All in a small 1.8 inch rectangle.

128GB used to be about a thousand dollars, so it's still a bit pricey, but still a lot lower than before.

still, it will be a while before its 100% main stream and the hardrive is truely dead

Yeah, you are right about that. HDD's are still very common and probably won't be dead for a while.

Plus, supporting my theory (game installers, etc) SSD wouldn't work due to the lower storage space. People who use tons of media as well will also feel the crunch of an SSD.

Once they do obtain parity with HDDs, they'll catch on.

so not until they get to like 1tb?

That and price per GB.

i know i really should leave this thread alone, but i found this, some nerds actually worked out how many dvd's mgs 4 would need to be ported to the 360 and they made this :p made me laugh lol

http://i38.tinypic.com/3eolt.jpg

That is not accurate considering DVD9 and DVD10 can hold a lot more than you think, but I guess funny attempt by the fan boys.

PS3 still not worth it.

The max MGS4 would take up is around 6 DL-DVDs. Using some newer format disks, maybe only around 2-3. A university found a way to cram in even more data, which would make it actually fit one 1 disk, but it's not being mass produced at the moment.

However, although I believe the PS3 is a powerful system, it's don't believe it's being used to it's potential. The devs who made MGS4 could have losslessly compressed the audio, encoded the video as H.264, and saved a ton of space without sacrificing any quality. But they didn't, and ~60% of the disk is filled with uncompressed PCM audio.

*cough* fanboy :rolleyes:

actually that technology for having 45gb dvd's was found to be very unstable, and so is not going to be mass produced. Though before you complain about the game...play it.. i just finished it, and it really is a masterpiece.

Oh and this game is supposed to be announced sometime in august, would something like that make it worth while?

please, I am anything but a fanboy.....I think this is a classic case of the melting pot calling the kettle black.

Here is my biggest problem with the whole, you need blu ray thing with the PS3. The PS3 has a very powerful cell processor in it, which could support ridiculous levels of compression. Since compression technology is dependent on how powerful your hardware is, I am willing to bet that the cell processor could decompress files on the fly very fast. Therefore the bluray storage is a moot technology. It isn't future proof, and it is just a bunch of Sony propaganda.

So, who is the fanboy?

What?

And i doubt its me since your the one who pretty much started all this.

*snaps fingers* :p

haha this is from some e3 awards for best trailer... just watch... the duke is in there http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37602.html