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tlarkin 05-08-2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hal Itosis (Post 532151)
Yes yes... but that's so obvious it doesn't even need to be said. What i find wasteful is spending 100% of the time discussing the 15% of the troll bait being served, while acting as if the other 85% has no technical merit at all. Whereas the other 85% does in fact have technical merit, often more so than many other (similar) sites.

Hey, i think Gruber is a bit of a bozo sometimes (versus others who seem to believe he's God's favorite nephew or something). But i'm not gonna start a thread devoted exclusively to Gruber's bozo-ness. I just take whatever useful info he has to offer and chuck the rest away.

We would all "prefer" people to be perfect and polite and all that... but the world seldom works that way.

Well when people start to get unilateral tunnel vision about something, how much accurate can it be?

I can agree with you that some of it has technical merit, but having worked directly with Apple engineers and bringing up such things a lot of these exploits or bugs do end up going no where, while some of them are also pretty damn valid.

I just wish there were more non partisan, non fanboy or anti-fanboy articles out there. I mean when I try to explain the benefits of running a Mac to one of my PC-centric friends they get caught up on some real non issues in my opinion because of that partisan bias people put out about platforms.

I don't think OS X is perfect and I don't think it is the best OS out there. I think it is a good OS and I think that Apple makes a great product but lacking in certain areas. I know that apple script exploit I saw first hand, and well, no more apple script access or automator for that matter either for students. They abuse it, rather than use it.

I do agree with you though that even some of these biased computer people can still put out good information. I do have to stop and think how much of it is egocentric and how much of it qualifies for media attention and how much of it is actually genuine, and then at that point I get bored and go onto something else.

Hal Itosis 05-08-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 532167)
I can agree with you that some of it has technical merit, but having worked directly with Apple engineers and bringing up such things a lot of these exploits or bugs do end up going no where, while some of them are also pretty damn valid.

And sometimes the reply to reported bugs is: "it works as expected".

tlarkin 05-09-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hal Itosis (Post 532171)
And sometimes the reply to reported bugs is: "it works as expected".

I really can't get into my dealings with the engineering side of apple since I am under NDA, but I can tell you that with out proper support (pay for or tier 2 etc) I am pretty sure it is their standard practice to not show defects in a product.

I had so many problems with Work Group Manager and discovered a bug, a major bug, and it was filed for fixing down the road is the answer I got.


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