Well im not into rpgs (waste of time imo) but oblivion was very long... and theres fallout 3 coming with like 200 different endings and fable 2

Its because no one wants to play a 50 hour hack an slash game, just gets boring and its hard say for something like GOW to keep the amazing story going for that long

I started playing fallout 1 last night to get me pumped for fallout 3. I used a character editor to make my guy awesome at everything, and I keep doing called shots to enemies groin and eyes......

Then when I get bored I save the game, then run around and kill everyone in town by punching them in the crotch for lots of damage....

Man, I love fallout

I guess id appreciate rpgs like fallout if i had the time to invest in them..


Mikey is it... a long running franchise or a one of game...

Im gonna hazard a guess at a sonic game..

Sorry guys, I ate the cookie this morning on the train to work. This thread is now about how the Wii outsold all of its competitors' consoles, including the PSP, combined for the month of April.

true, but the ps3 has been outselling the 360 for the last couple of months, :)

I think the wii sales will begin to die down (unless they have a new big exclusive announced at e3)

Like dan houser said in an interview F@*& the casual gamer :)

The Wii and DS have proved that innovation beats sheer CPU/GPU grunt, as Sony would like you to believe. :P

random video game related youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wUq8B3HG3c&NR=1

Barely. Still nowhere near the Wii.

People have been saying this since the Wii's launch. You still can't get one at the Nintendo World Store unless you wait in line early.

Why? What's wrong with those gamers? Do they somehow prevent you from playing Call of Duty? Sounds like a pretty stupid thing to say, honestly.

I am a casual gamer. I don't spend hours of my life each day playing games, because to me it is a waste. A good game may suck me in for a few hours in a row here and there, and the occasional long gaming session. Even GTA4, I have maybe played 10 hours total since release. I just lose interest when the it is just a rehash. The game is amazing in many aspects but it can't suck me in.

I go back to classics, like Fallout. There is no other game out there like it. When they remake X-COM I may get excited.

I would much prefer a game I can just pick up and waste an hour playing it and not have to commit my time like it was a second job playing it.

Totally. The DS doesn't actually have a lot of power under the hood, but it's a killer system (and has sold as such) because it's accessible, innovative, and has a ton of really great titles that appeal to all kinds of different gamers. It's basically a license to print money. :)

You can't turn a bad script into a good movie, and a crappy game isn't made good by stronger hardware.

When people say "casual gamer", they typically refer to the casual gaming segment of the market that is comprised of things like Zuma, card games, Cooking Mama, etc. Just FYI for the rest of the discussion. (I'm not sure if you meant to call Fallout or X-COM casual games. You might not have been.)

The rise of the casual gaming market has eclipsed every other corner of gaming. Zuma/Luxor outsells most game shelves combined.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual_game

Ah i see, I don't get all the casual games. The one thing I hate about my Wii is the fact that most of the games are just a bunch of mini games bundled in one game. That i am not really into.

Zelda and Metroid are amazing though. I guess when I say casual is that I maybe only buy and play a dozen or less games per a year (less actually for the most part) where as when I was a teen/early20s I bought a few games per a month.

If fallout 3 sucks I will lose even more faith.

Exactly games like that are bad for the industry, i mean whats the point of investing 4 years and millions of dollars in a game, where you can make 5 or 6 mini game games for a fraction of the cost and sell just as much. It means the games become more and more generic and loose originality

Or they are just the same thing recycled over and over again hence my GTA4 comment....

Sorry, don't buy it. Used to work for a casual game company.

Luxor and Cooking Mama didn't put a dent in Halo 3, Call of Duty 4, Bioshock, any Final Fantasy game in the last 5 years, WoW, or Gears of War. My mother and girlfriend don't care about those games, and wouldn't buy them anyway, regardless of the existence of casual games. Either you end up with two markets that don't cross over, or you have the kinds of people who buy multiple games in a given period of time. And of course, some companies flood the gaming shelves with low-rent crap, but they weren't going to make triple-A titles to begin with.

If anything, casual gaming is good for the games industry as a whole, because it puts more systems out there, demonstrates that gaming isn't just for greasy nerds pretending to be blue female orcs on the Internet with other greasy nerds pretending to be blue female orcs, and helps finance other titles made by companies who also make casual games. (Trust me on this one.)

Everyone deriding the casual game market needs to stop. It's a good thing.

We get it already. You don't think any game is good unless it's a breakthrough of originality. You also hate GTA IV. ;)

No Mikey, I hate it when developers get lazy and add reptitive content. While, I am dogging on GTA4, it is not that it is a bad game, I just personally felt it could have been better.

I still play it.

to be fair though, this was R*'s first go at next gen, hopefully the next version will be more to your liking, more revolutionary, and hopefully a solid frame rate