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tlarkin 04-10-2008 02:33 PM

Dreams...
 
Last night I had a dream, a nightmare of sorts, where I was attacked by a huge snarling black furred rugged dog, possibly a wolf even maybe. I grabbed him by his face and forced his jaws open, not allowing him to bite down. Eventually the struggle ended with me over coming the dogs attack, and the dog submitting and walking off.

It was weird, so I decided to read up on dream analyzing. It seems that over coming danger represents that you will succeed socially, in love, and in your career.

The dog represents my friendships. A big mean tough dog means I have powerful friends. A dog that attacks you means you have unfriendly friends.

So, according to this dream analysis, I will have great success and many powerful un-friendly friends to protect me.

LOL - not that I believe in this stuff, but I guess it is interesting enough though to waste a few minutes.

Thoughts? Dreams?

aehurst 04-10-2008 03:02 PM

Could mean you just became the alpha male of the local pack. :-)

tlarkin 04-10-2008 03:22 PM

Its weird in my dreams I am never violent, I just resist is all. I never tried to fight back, just control the dog.

Except one time when I was prescribed xanex, I had extremely violent dreams where I killed all kinds of zombies, and there was A LOT of them.

Like I said, I don't believe in that hocus pocus dream analysis stuff, but I found it funny and interesting.

Has anyone used that analysis stuff and found it to actually be true? I kind of lump it in with astrology, a mild form of entertainment (if you are into it I guess) and no real science to back it up.

Jay Carr 04-10-2008 03:29 PM

There are theories of dream analysis that do hold some water. Just makes sure that you are getting your info from a scholarly source. There's not much you can get out of a dream, but do remember that your dreams are entirely created by your mind, even if in an entirely random fashion.

tlarkin 04-10-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 463453)
There are theories of dream analysis that do hold some water. Just makes sure that you are getting your info from a scholarly source. There's not much you can get out of a dream, but do remember that your dreams are entirely created by your mind, even if in an entirely random fashion.

Yeah I have read up on how to induce lucid dreaming, and it seems to work and is really fun to do. Even though I can never control it quite right.

Felix_MC 04-10-2008 03:52 PM

Well, in the Romanian folklore of dream analysis, a dog usually represents an enemy. The dog trying to bite you, usually means that the enemy is trying to harm you in some way.. You being able to "defeat" the dog probably means that you stopped your enemy from harming you:p..
But of course I don't believe in that sort of mambo jumbo, even though my grandparents and parents do.. but it's sorta interesting to hear about..
And I know people on this forum come from all over the world.. I wonder what tlarkin's dream symbolizes in other cultures:rolleyes:..

tlarkin 04-10-2008 03:57 PM

I bet in Korea it meant I got my dinner:D:eek:

Jay Carr 04-10-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 463458)
I bet in Korea it meant I got my dinner:D:eek:

If your dinner is trying to eat you...

tlarkin 04-10-2008 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 463466)
If your dinner is trying to eat you...

Well, it was kind of a joke and a Simpsons reference, when home had that dream where a cheeseburger tried to take a bite out of him.

Gnarlodious 04-10-2008 04:30 PM

Dreams don't "mean" anything, they are just chaotic neural activity while you are asleep.

tlarkin 04-10-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnarlodious (Post 463472)
Dreams don't "mean" anything, they are just chaotic neural activity while you are asleep.

Doesn't mean you can't have fun talking about them. I once had a dream that I was fighting a shark, and I was moving in super slow motion. I woke up to myself punching under the blankets, haha found that funny.

Jay Carr 04-10-2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnarlodious (Post 463472)
Dreams don't "mean" anything, they are just chaotic neural activity while you are asleep.

I disagree. But I'm not into the cosmological symbolisms. It's true that dreams are the result of chaotic neural activity. But our minds try to turn those symbols into a cohesive story. And because of that, we can learn a bit about ourselves from our dreams.

Take tlarkins example of all the violent Zombie dreams when he was taking medications. His state of mind changed, so how he reacted to his dreams changed. Plus, the mind change affected a change in the kind of neurological randomness he had (zombies, lots of them), and something can be learned from that as well.

All I'm saying is that you don't have to use cosmological reasoning, there are logical reasons as well.

Gnarlodious 04-10-2008 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 463475)
our minds try to turn those symbols into a cohesive story. And because of that, we can learn a bit about ourselves from our dreams.

The Heisenberg principle explains the fallacy of this assumption. Your brain wants your dreams to "mean something", and yet you admit that dreams are chaotic neural activity. This is why people who try to direct their dreams find it impossible to have lucid dreams. When you interfere with the chaos the mystery dissolves. The only true dream is the shaman's dream, the dream that is uninfluenced by the ego mind.

Jay Carr 04-10-2008 06:04 PM

What you interpret is your reaction to the random stimulus. Sorry if I was unclear.

Gnarlodious 04-10-2008 07:19 PM

No reason to be sorry. I merely make two points:

1) We apply a cultural filter to all stimuli. Pre-Christian irish might have seen leprecauns, while post-Christian Irish might have seen angels.

2) The act of manipulating a dream is inherently frustrating, since it overrides the dream's natural state of chaos.

Hope that makes sense.

aehurst 04-10-2008 08:19 PM

Curiosity got the better of me, so I called a friend and related the dream. My friend is a PhD in neuro-psychology and has built somewhat of a reputation as both psychic and prophet. Her word is golden. Here is her interpretation:

Dreams are always about the individual. The overall theme of the dream is conflict, therefore the episode is about an internal conflict you are experiencing either at work or in your personal life.

The fact you do not fight back indicates you believe your opponent to be invincible. You don't give in either, and that implies you believe your enemy to be a manifestation of pure evil. The wolf symbolizes a menacing predator that consumes all in its purview with its grotesque evil.

When I explained what you do for a living and where the dream was related, she was able to further define the meaning. Clearly, the wolf represents Microsoft, the invincible evil of your world. And since all dreams are sexual in nature, the literal interpretation of your dream is your overwhelming desire to scream, "Screw Microsoft."

Okay, it wasn't a neuro psychologist, just a barroom sage at the local watering hole. Gives a whole new meaning to old saying, "The wolf is at the door."

Jay Carr 04-11-2008 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by aehurst (Post 463499)
Curiosity got the better of me, so I called a friend and related the dream. My friend is a PhD in neuro-psychology and has built somewhat of a reputation as both psychic and prophet. Her word is golden. Here is her interpretation:

Dreams are always about the individual. The overall theme of the dream is conflict, therefore the episode is about an internal conflict you are experiencing either at work or in your personal life.

The fact you do not fight back indicates you believe your opponent to be invincible. You don't give in either, and that implies you believe your enemy to be a manifestation of pure evil. The wolf symbolizes a menacing predator that consumes all in its purview with its grotesque evil.

When I explained what you do for a living and where the dream was related, she was able to further define the meaning. Clearly, the wolf represents Microsoft, the invincible evil of your world. And since all dreams are sexual in nature, the literal interpretation of your dream is your overwhelming desire to scream, "Screw Microsoft."

Okay, it wasn't a neuro psychologist, just a barroom sage at the local watering hole. Gives a whole new meaning to old saying, "The wolf is at the door."

Beat...interpretation...ever. I'll be laughing for some time :D.

tlarkin 04-11-2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aehurst (Post 463499)
Curiosity got the better of me, so I called a friend and related the dream. My friend is a PhD in neuro-psychology and has built somewhat of a reputation as both psychic and prophet. Her word is golden. Here is her interpretation:

Dreams are always about the individual. The overall theme of the dream is conflict, therefore the episode is about an internal conflict you are experiencing either at work or in your personal life.

The fact you do not fight back indicates you believe your opponent to be invincible. You don't give in either, and that implies you believe your enemy to be a manifestation of pure evil. The wolf symbolizes a menacing predator that consumes all in its purview with its grotesque evil.

When I explained what you do for a living and where the dream was related, she was able to further define the meaning. Clearly, the wolf represents Microsoft, the invincible evil of your world. And since all dreams are sexual in nature, the literal interpretation of your dream is your overwhelming desire to scream, "Screw Microsoft."

Okay, it wasn't a neuro psychologist, just a barroom sage at the local watering hole. Gives a whole new meaning to old saying, "The wolf is at the door."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Next time give me a warning before you do that, i almost spit coffee on my iMac.

BTW, a bit off topic, but last night I had a discussion with a friend that Microsofts best product is the xbox 360, and it is a damn good one at that!

Jay Carr 04-11-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 463593)
BTW, a bit off topic, but last night I had a discussion with a friend that Microsofts best product is the xbox 360, and it is a damn good one at that!

I dunno, I always felt that Microsofts best products were their vaporware... :D.

Okay okay, you're spot on. I have no problems with the 360, its a good, solid piece of equipment. And a lot of fun too.

kel101 04-11-2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 463598)
I dunno, I always felt that Microsofts best products were their vaporware... :D.

Okay okay, you're spot on. I have no problems with the 360, its a good, solid piece of equipment. And a lot of fun too.

blah, why do you all have 360's? ps3 is much better..... no rrod here, no sir!

ummm, zal, whats vaporware??

J Christopher 04-12-2008 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 463440)
It was weird, so I decided to read up on dream analyzing. It seems that over coming danger represents that you will succeed socially, in love, and in your career.

Out of curiosity, how many different books, etc. gave similar explanations of the symbolism?

J Christopher 04-12-2008 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gnarlodious (Post 463477)
The Heisenberg principle explains the fallacy of this assumption.

The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle deals with the relationship of how much we can know about a particle's position and its velocity simultaneously. Specifically, the more we know about a particle's velocity, the less we can know about its position, and the more we know about its position, the less we can know about its velocity. Thus, there is always some amount of uncertainty, the minimum amount of which can be easily modeled mathematically.

I fail to see how the Uncertainty Principle could relate to dreams.

Felix_MC 04-12-2008 09:11 AM

maybe a bit of topic, but what about wet dreams? :D
Do they work the same way?

Gnarlodious 04-12-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by J Christopher (Post 463771)
I fail to see how the Uncertainty Principle could relate to dreams.

Like this. When you interact with a dream you subtract from its meaning. You can't try to assign a meaning to a dream without affecting its content. This means that the only true dream is the one that has no causality.

kel101 04-12-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Felix_MC (Post 463781)
maybe a bit of topic, but what about wet dreams? :D
Do they work the same way?

*sigh* ....im sure there better forums for that :D

tlarkin 04-12-2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by J Christopher (Post 463769)
Out of curiosity, how many different books, etc. gave similar explanations of the symbolism?

I just google searched a bunch of web sites. Didn't feel like actually buying a book

J Christopher 04-12-2008 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnarlodious (Post 463802)
Like this. When you interact with a dream you subtract from its meaning. You can't try to assign a meaning to a dream without affecting its content. This means that the only true dream is the one that has no causality.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.


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