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Jay Carr 04-10-2008 02:25 PM

Simple Ideas -- Big Effects
 
So I recently read this story from Apple Insider. It talks about a new patent, where Apple is thinking of implementing "acoustic separation" in it's iPhones for conference calls. The idea being that if you have your headphones on for a conference call, each individual speaker will be assigned a spot along the stereo spectrum, making it sound like each of them is speaking at you from a different direction.

To me this idea is pretty freaking awesome. It increases conversation clarity in conference calls, and it's a pretty simple system to implement. Thus the title of the thread: Simple Ideas -- Big Effects.

I was wondering what the rest of you thought of this. But, perhaps more importantly, I wondered if any of you could think of other examples where simple ideas have made huge differences for technology. I've become suddenly curious.

aehurst 04-10-2008 04:33 PM

Robert Adler came up with the most useful, simple piece of technology man ever invented for man.... the TV remote control.

johngpt 04-19-2008 11:24 PM

Flint flake, edges which can cut.

styrafome 04-19-2008 11:34 PM

The bread slicer. It was the greatest thing since...........ever.

P.S. That acoustic spatial conference idea rules.

NovaScotian 04-19-2008 11:39 PM

The basic idea that moving a conductor across a magnetic field has had a pretty profound effect on us: We call it Electricity.

johngpt 04-19-2008 11:44 PM

Friction creates heat. Struck objects spark. Both can make fire. Humans survive. :)

ArcticStones 04-20-2008 10:24 AM

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Where would modern civilization be without the zipper?
Thank you Whitcomb L. Judson. :)

aehurst 04-20-2008 10:39 AM

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Where would modern civilization be without the zipper?
Or Velcro, which we got from the Vulcans.

johngpt 04-20-2008 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by aehurst (Post 465299)
Or Velcro, which we got from the Vulcans.

Wasn't it originally called Vulcro?

kel101 04-20-2008 11:07 AM

whoever accidentally lite a marijuana plant... (i kid drugs are bad)

cwtnospam 04-20-2008 11:12 AM

Controlling fire. It beats sliced bread by thousands of years, and it makes bread possible. :D

Felix_MC 04-20-2008 11:32 AM

whomever invented the internet.. how else would we have girl on girl factual information at a click of the mouse?:D

kel101 04-20-2008 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Felix_MC (Post 465318)
whomever invented the internet.. how else would we have girl on girl factual information at the click of the mouse?:D

*face palm*

tw 04-20-2008 03:23 PM

well, you know that as soon as this catches on, someone's going to start playing with it so that the CEO comes across as a booming voice from heaven, and your immediate supervisor always sounds like he's standing right behind you. and then people are going to start worrying about where they are positioned around the virtual acoustic table, and you could even get instant demotions by making someone sound farther away. it's going to make office politics even more horrific than it already is.

Jay Carr 04-20-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 465360)
well, you know that as soon as this catches on, someone's going to start playing with it so that the CEO comes across as a booming voice from heaven, and your immediate supervisor always sounds like he's standing right behind you. and then people are going to start worrying about where they are positioned around the virtual acoustic table, and you could even get instant demotions by making someone sound farther away. it's going to make office politics even more horrific than it already is.

That totally made my day :D. If I'm ever the CEO of a company, this will absolutely be my policy.

aehurst 04-21-2008 10:24 AM

The match..... portable fire.... fire on a stick.

johngpt 04-21-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aehurst (Post 465499)
The match..... portable fire.... fire on a stick.

So we can cook our hot dog on a stick! :D

Felix_MC 04-21-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by aehurst (Post 465499)
The match..... portable fire.... fire on a stick.

Portable fire? Like a flaming arrow used to kill people and set fire to buildings:eek:?

aehurst 04-22-2008 09:43 AM

Gyroscope. First built by Johann Bohnenberger. Without gyroscopes, which are used in missile guidance systems to measure movement (yaw, pitch and roll) around an axis, there would be no satellites. Without satellites, your GPS wouldn't work. Neither would Yahoo! Maps.

Jay Carr 04-22-2008 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aehurst (Post 465678)
Gyroscope. First built by Johann Bohnenberger. Without gyroscopes, which are used in missile guidance systems to measure movement (yaw, pitch and roll) around an axis, there would be no satellites. Without satellites, your GPS wouldn't work. Neither would Yahoo! Maps.

Or flight for that matter. Every plane in the world uses a gyro for it's attitude indicator. Without that instrument it's impossible to tell if you are flying straight and level in low visibility.

Good pick aehurst.

schneb 04-22-2008 12:58 PM

In my book, GPS-- creates so much technological possibilities.

However, historically, the semi-conductor has to be one of the greatest.

nikopolidis 04-23-2008 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 463439)
I wondered if any of you could think of other examples where simple ideas have made huge differences for technology. I've become suddenly curious.

I have a classic example... :)
Very simple idea - wheel.
Greatly changed technology and our lives.. ;)

trumpet_999 04-23-2008 09:25 AM

Steel - probably once quite a simple idea, but has gone on to become indispensable.

aehurst 04-23-2008 09:52 AM

The pill......

Jay Carr 04-23-2008 01:42 PM

Cool. We are coming up with a lot of interesting inventions that have been created. And various discoveries. But what about new ways of using existing technology? Using something that's already there in a way no one had thought to use it before. Because I think that's what was so interesting about the original article. It wasn't a "breakthrough", stereo sound already existed as did headphones, but the re-application of the technology through a simple idea--it could really change how we use cell phones from now on.

Mobile phones themselves are a good example of what I mean. We already had phones, we even had wirless phones that we could haul around the house if we wanted. But then someone figured out a way to use radio waves (also already in use for other things) to communicate with a phone. Suddenly you can take your phone anywhere you want, and the way we interact with people really changed as a result.

Examples like that are more what I was looking for.

tw 04-23-2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 465901)
Cool. We are coming up with a lot of interesting inventions that have been created. And various discoveries. But what about new ways of using existing technology? Using something that's already there in a way no one had thought to use it before.

hmmm... that's almost the entire history of technology. I mean, a nuclear power plant is just a steam engine powered by a carefully controlled atom bomb, and a steam engine is just a hydraulics system driven by boiling water, and hydraulics systems are just reinterpretations of the wheel (using rotation to translate and redirect force...).

aehurst 04-23-2008 03:28 PM

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Mobile phones themselves are a good example of what I mean
I'm on a survey list for AT&T. One of the things they are looking at (based on their questions) is an arrangement where Mom could take her cell phone to a basketball game and stream the video of little Johnny playing from her cell phone to Dad's cell phone while he's out of town... all live. Couldn't tell from the questions how it would work. May be streaming to and then down from a web page, or it might be directly from phone to phone.

Interesting idea.... what you pay for that service?

Jay Carr 04-23-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 465909)
hmmm... that's almost the entire history of technology. I mean, a nuclear power plant is just a steam engine powered by a carefully controlled atom bomb, and a steam engine is just a hydraulics system driven by boiling water, and hydraulics systems are just reinterpretations of the wheel (using rotation to translate and redirect force...).

In a lot of ways, yes. I'm just looking for some of the better stories. But, perhaps I'm asking a bit much. I have an odd fondness for minutia (comes with being a historian). Anyway, the thread is still open to whatever anyone wants to put on here. I'm just trying to mold the conversation a bit, that's all ;).

@aehurst. I would assume that will be possible when the finally get broad band going in between phones. I mean, we already do it with computers, we just call it video conferencing. Before too long I would assume that every camera will have a "stream" option, so that you can send the video to someone else live.

fazstp 04-23-2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 465915)
I have an odd fondness for minutia

Hmmm, sounds interesting but useless to me. I knew you were holding out on us :D

johngpt 04-23-2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 465935)
Hmmm, sounds interesting but useless to me. I knew you were holding out on us :D

Interesting but useless is almost my middle name!

cwtnospam 04-23-2008 07:16 PM

The GUI, and of course, adding multi touch to it!

fazstp 04-28-2008 10:26 PM

SQL Databases

ThreeDee 04-28-2008 10:31 PM

This reminds me of something from a while ago:
http://gprime.net/flash.php/soundimmersion

It's a good example of faux surround sound with plain stereo headphones. Even works pretty well with regular speakers too.

ArcticStones 04-29-2008 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 465364)
That totally made my day :D. If I'm ever the CEO of a company, this will absolutely be my policy.

Or perhaps put in a 20 second delay (except on their own feedback), making them seem unusually daft and impolite.

fazstp 05-04-2009 09:15 PM

One simple technology I have come to rely on is remote locking. When my battery went flat I panicked for a moment before I remembered you can stick the key in the lock and turn :o.

Jay Carr 05-04-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 466903)
SQL Databases

Why SQL databases?

fazstp 05-04-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Carr (Post 531408)
Why SQL databases?

Well I don't know if I needed to specify SQL. I just mean the ability to store and quickly retrieve and cross reference massive amounts of data. It's a pretty pervasive technology that makes a lot of other things possible.

styrafome 05-04-2009 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 531402)
One simple technology I have come to rely on is remote locking. When my battery went flat I panicked for a moment before I remembered you can stick the key in the lock and turn :o.

Another example of that...

I haven't gotten around to forgetting the manual backdoors because my remote doesn't always work when the car is parked near TV/radio towers. If it won't lock by radio I have to do it the old fashioned way. I even looked up the secret sequence to disable the alarm just in case if I have to turn the key in the lock when the remote won't disarm the alarm.

tw 05-04-2009 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Carr (Post 531408)
Why SQL databases?

I was going to say "because he's a geek", but then I had a Monty Python moment and wanted to say "because he's a witch; BURN him!" but then I got to wondering whether you burn computer witches to CD or DVD, and it just got too confusing.

johngpt 05-04-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 531402)
One simple technology I have come to rely on is remote locking. When my battery went flat I panicked for a moment before I remembered you can stick the key in the lock and turn :o.

Damn, took me three more posts to realize you were talking about an automobile, not a computer!!!!

I was trying to visualise putting some sort of key into an orifice on a mbp!!!

And how that could possibly help its dead battery.

:D:D:D:D:D

Jay Carr 05-05-2009 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 531412)
Well I don't know if I needed to specify SQL. I just mean the ability to store and quickly retrieve and cross reference massive amounts of data. It's a pretty pervasive technology that makes a lot of other things possible.

I'm not even really sure how to respond to that :confused:. What kind of witch are we talking about here anyway? Cause if it's an HD witch, I would think a DVD would be more appropriate than a CD, don't you?

fazstp 05-05-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Carr (Post 531432)
What kind of witch are we talking about here anyway?

Dare I suggest that transistors are sand-witchery? :o



Sorry 'bout that... :p

fazstp 05-05-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 531415)
I was going to say "because he's a geek", but then I had a Monty Python moment and wanted to say "because he's a witch; BURN him!" but then I got to wondering whether you burn computer witches to CD or DVD, and it just got too confusing.

Not to mention the difficulty of weighing a virtual duck.

johngpt 05-05-2009 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 531579)
Not to mention the difficulty of weighing a virtual duck.

Or determining the airspeed of a virtual swallow. :D

tw 05-06-2009 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by johngpt (Post 531592)
Or determining the airspeed of a virtual swallow. :D

Ok, you all knew this had to be coming...

Ni!

ArcticStones 05-06-2009 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 531579)
Not to mention the difficulty of weighing a virtual duck.

What may be more interesting is the energy potential of the duck. :cool:

ArcticStones 05-06-2009 02:44 AM

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...and where would modern civilization be without the zipper?

johngpt 05-06-2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 531610)
What may be more interesting is the energy potential of the duck. :cool:

Does this come unsaltered?

My physician says I need to avoid salt?








{But I don't have to avoid Shrubbery. (for tw)}

fazstp 05-06-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 531593)
Ok, you all knew this had to be coming...

Likewise...


johngpt 05-06-2009 11:38 PM

Run away, run away...


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