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Woodsman 01-12-2010 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by fazstp (Post 568476)
What I'm talking about though are addictions like gambling, shopping, the internet, porn. The object of desire takes on an exaggerated importance and consumes more and more mental resources until you give in. It rarely meets your expectations and then you regret your weakness and hit a bit of a downer until you begin the cycle again. The driving force is the desire and the underlying anxiety that causes. The fact that the object of your addiction failed to satisfy your initial desires is conveniently ignored. You're chasing some sort of mythological ideal that you can never find so your desire can never be quenched.
The big question is whether all our main desires fall into that category.

tw 01-13-2010 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Woodsman (Post 568504)
The big question is whether all our main desires fall into that category.
I think it's a matter of degree, and of reactivity. The buddha said that 'desire is the root of disillusionment'. when you want something, what you want is the mental construct you've imagined, not the thing itself. the greater the difference between your mental constructions and the things that actually exist in the world, the greater your disappointment with what you get, and the greater your craving for what you think you've missed - thus, the more you have to chase after that imaginary mental construction. We all suffer from it to one extent or another.

NovaScotian 01-13-2010 10:20 AM
The cynicism of age helps to moderate expectations (and desire) substantially. One becomes much more a realist.

ArcticStones 01-13-2010 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NovaScotian (Post 568718)
The cynicism of age helps to moderate expectations (and desire) substantially. One becomes much more a realist.
That reminds me of two rather dark jokes:
Q: What’s the difference between a Polish optimist and a Polish pessimist?
A: A Polish pessimist is an experienced optimist.

Q: What’s a Russian brisling?
A: A blue whale that has survived Communism.
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Woodsman 01-14-2010 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 568726)
.Q: What’s the difference between a Polish optimist and a Polish pessimist?
A: A Polish pessimist is an experienced optimist..
"Smile", they said, "Things could be worse".

So I did, and they were.


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