darkpaw, thanks.

Unfortunately, Nokia 7650 is unavailable in USA.

Nokia 3650
 

As soon as Apple released iSync 1.1 and the bluetooth update, I went out and purchased a Nokia 3650 with a T-Mobile plan. The phone works perfectly with with iSync in getting my contacts over to to the phone. One caveat was to open ports 3000-3004 on my firewall for the connection to work.

For further functionality, I installed FExplorer which can be found at http://my-symbian.com. This is a file browser, but it also gives you the ability to send files via bluetooth and IR back to your computer.

So far I've been thrilled with this phone.

Thread resurrection...

Does anyone have info on why the Nokia 6310i is not yet supported by iSync? I'm really eager to get synced here =)

I am trying a Nokia 3650.

It works OK, but syncing is not perfect.

Some fields in the phone's Contacts are not transferred to Address Book.

Vice versa, some fields in Address Book are not transferred to the phone's Contacts.

Bluetooth File Exchange is unable to browse any directories on the phone. Files are exchanged only as messages, in either direction.

Ringing and ringtones are very inconsistent- most are too quiet, there are a few loud ones.

Handset and loudspeaker volumes are also inconsistent- lots of times they seem too quiet.

The volume issues are a major annoyance, I desire a phone that is very clearly audible at loud volumes when necessary.


Nokia PC Suite runs under Virtual PC Windows 2000 under OS 9 but not OS X with USB Bluetooth. Even under OS 9, operation is a little flaky. Backup does not run at all, transferring a large file from the phone was consistently unsuccessful, and the connection randomly gets lost after several minutes.




So far, I like the phone, but there is still much room for improvement.




Yet again, that is why I am STILL


a little peaved!

I should also add: WINDOWS SUCKS!

On Mac OS X, I had the phone and Mac communicating over bluetooth less than fifteen minutes after plugging the bluetooth adapter in the USB port.

Another half hour, and I had a good understanding of how Address Book, iSync and the Nokia 3650 interacted. Within two hours, there was a very thorough workout answering my own questions about the intricacies involved in the data syncing.


On Windows, the same tasks took ten to fifteen hours, and the results were not as conclusive. Using VPC under Mac OS accounts for less than two hours of this. And, that is mostly due to upgrading a number of different versions.

The rest of this enormous suckage of time wasted is dealing with a very, very shoddy operating system called Windows.


The best thing anyone can say about Windows:

The Belkin website provides a support document for using the bluetooth adapter on Windows with the Nokia 3650. Thank goodness, because it describes obscure items such as setting some bluetooth serial connections to "COM" port number 9 or greater. No good reason for that, other than crap Windows programming. I pity the "average user" who has to figure this crap out.

But wait, there's more! Belkin documents another issue with Windows and Nokia. It's frigging unbelievable! Windows reports the connection is made on COM0 (it's not) and also reports that the connection failed! In reality, the connection is good! This garbage is documented as the standard behavior of Windows, and it is typical, that's how crappy Windows is.




If I cared, I would still be:

a little peaved!

Dude, quit it with the "I AM STILL PEAVED" rubbish :rolleyes:

Which fields from the phone are not transferred to Address Book?

Which fields from Address Book are not transferred to the phone?

Are these fields supported by Address Book/your phone?

If you're miffed that your phone chooses to ignore certain fields in a vCard, then contact the manufacturer. If it's definitely iSync that's screwing it up, please raise feedback to Apple and let them fix it.

darkpaw-


Time and again I have indicated that I report feedback to manufacturers, so your suggestions are a little tiresome.

Manufacturers should release better quality, better-designed products without requiring customers to endlessly alpha-test their products at great expense in time.

If you're so keen on manufacturers, perhaps you could ask them your questions.

It would be interesting to hear about what you find from their documentation and support.

Good luck, but I suspect you will start to become "a little peaved" also.

And what do you expect us to tell you to do then? Should we tell you exactly why some fields aren't being transferred, even though we don't know? My suggestion to contact the manufacturers is a damned good one, and if you spent a little more time getting used to your computer and how things work, you might not have to spend so much time typing angry posts in here.

(BTW, your POSTS are a little tiresome.)

And then the consumer will constantly moan that the products aren't being released when they want them.

I don't have the questions, YOU do!!! I'm trying to help you, and quite frankly, you're being an a******e!

I would never turn out to be so cynical as you are.

Another reason why I am...

A LOT CHILLED.

I did not ask you to tell me anything.

I answered some of my own questions, with information that may be useful to other participants on these forums.



WRONG.

Here are darkpaw's questions, quoted from earlier post in this thread:


I appreciate your interest and efforts to help.

However, I also fully understand the technical limitations and product design decisions why these problems exist.


Unfortunately, these problems are not something that you or I can solve here. They are problems that are difficult even for the industry to solve or address properly.

If you are aggravated reading about these problems, then be thankful you are not being aggravated by experiencing these problems personally first-hand yourself.

The best way you, and others, can truly help, is to simply stop accepting mediocre products, flawed software, technology that does not match expectations set by deceitful marketing, and lack of detailed, thorough documentation accurately describing product functionality.

Sailing Clicker
 

Sailing Clicker is another reason to stick to Sony Ericsson phones, this software won the Eighth Annual Apple Design Awards best of show.

Here's the data that does not sync

Phone data, not supported in Address Book:
default phone
voice tag
detail image
custom ring
etc.

Address Book data, not supported in phone:
custom labels on phone numbers

Data supported by both phone and address book, but not exchanged or synced:
Groups!!!
etc.


See also Apple Knowledgebase article re: Nokia 3650 and 7650 phones. The article is not completely accurate, some data is exchanged where it states it is not.



Except for these problems, the syncing works great.

Otherwise, I would be:

VERY PEAVED!



There are other severe problems described above in this thread.

I paid for these products and software, no one paid me to test these items or document my results.



That's why I am:

A Little Peaved!

Re: Sailing Clicker
 

Sailing Clicker on P800 has reduced functionality than supported phones.

I don't have much need for this software. Cool for those who do, though.

What are some things you like/dislike about your Sony Ericsson phone?

Me?

I don't use a cell or beeper. My time away from a wall socket is my unwired time. Living in NYC, there's just too much going on already - it's nice to be able to walk without a phone ringing or some pager knocking around.. :)

I just posted the info for those interested.

---

Who knows? Maybe one day I'll cut back to a mead pad with a fine knife-sharpened #2 pencil! :p

You know, "peaved" (it's peeved, BTW), I started this thread actually quite curious about the replies you might get.

As I continued to read, I realized that you are just quite a jerk.

You honestly need to learn some emotional control. If you blast into every situation where you need help as you did here, you're going to get your hindquarters served to you, every time.

Guys, I think it's best just to ignore some threads as not worth the effort. Some people are appreciative of the efforts of others, and some aren't.

We'll leave it as an exercise for each reader to determine which is which.

But, name calling is still out of bounds here. So don't indulge in it.

Thanks.

aw, man! if "grade-A toolbox" could only work its way in here somehow.

hey "A Little Peaved"
 

If you got the answer to your question earlier than you can deep six this post. I'm just too damn lazy (thus the affinity for technology) to read every friggin rant posted for signs of intelligent life.

I've got both the T68i and 3650 syncing eveything including calendar just fine. I ditched the T68 though as at least in L.A. it's reception sucks, and well, it is supposed to be able to make calls.

Using the 3650 now, bigger, but better OS and the camera/video cam is kinda fun @ "unique" times.

You can shoot me a message if you want any more info. Oh, and the PC Suite for Nokia is just as ****ty as the OS it's designed to run on.

Doof! Those questions were posed to YOU to get the information that we could try and help YOU with. YOU want to know why the phone doesn't support some fields being synced to your computer and vice versa. I tried to help. You just acted idiotic and flayed me for it.

Rest assured that any other "questions" you pose, will not be answered by me, and I suspect, not a lot of other people will help you out either. These are help forums, designed for you to come in, ask a question and wait for an answer or help IF we can give it. We have tried valiantly to accomodate you, but you are unappreciative in everything we do. You simply come in and rant that the world isn't wired the way you want.

Get a life. Get a different phone. Get yourself on an anger-management course too. It might help you. (Oh, and a spelling course, peaved is actually peeved.)

I haven't had any problems with any products I've bought. If I have, I've always either worked around the problem and sorted it another way, or I have chosen a different product. Do your research first. Contact manufacturers and Apple to see if their software works as you require. Apple has a thousand help and support forums where you can get answers from Apple staff. Use them.

Umm.. the new Treo soon coming looks great!

have a great weekend everyone

Jacques

Repeat. INCORRECT. As I stated to you previously, I have no questions about that topic, nor did I ask any.

I cannot be responsible for your misinterpretation or failure to comprehend.


Repeat. As I stated to you previously, I appreciate your efforts. What part of that statement do you fail to understand?

Again, I cannot be responsible for your misinterpretation or failure to comprehend.

There is a great difference between ranting and clearly describing problematic shortcomings that require improvement or better solution.

Again, I cannot be responsible for your failure to discern the difference.




ACTIONS speak louder than words. I have posted assistance to other users on these forums as a direct demonstration of appreciation. A number of times I posted where no other helpful responses were given by anyone else, or where others posted inaccurate information.




Repeat. There currently is NO phone available that is ideal for satisfying all the desired goals, although the technology and market to produce such a product has existed for several years.

You seem to miss the point that my expectations and goals may be quite different from yours.

I am not responsible if you believe that justifies your remarks.



I am truly happy for your satisfaction.




Now, let's hear from others and return to the topic of this thread, and discuss pro's and con's of various phones for use with Mac OS X in search of the best cellular phone for use with Mac OS X.