fink 0.5.0a and KDE
 

I've installed fink, then xfree86 and KDE, both using fink. I updated the .xinitrc with the startkde command, per the directions from the fink group.

Now, when I attempt to start KDE, I first receive a box stating:

Couldn't start kdeinit. Check your installation.

When I click okay, I then receive:

Couldn't start ksmserver. Check your installation.

I've searched for a solution, but to no avail. As I'm rather new at this, any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks.

cr8tive1,

Make sure your ~/.xinitrc file in your home directory read like this:
If you still have problems starting, change your startkde line in the ~/.xinitrc file to:
and then post here the messages from /tmp/kde.log.


Cheers...

My ~/.xinitrc file reads as you've indicated, but I still receive the same responses, followed by the usual quitting of XDarwin.

Since I'm a bit tired, having just worked 10 hours and finding myself sitting here at 03.00AM, I shall take the easy way out: How do I view the log?

I am very new at this, though I sincerely wish to learn as much as I can...in time ;-)

Robert

cr8tive1,

% cd /temp

% pico kde.log

Please could you run in terminal.app the following:

'sw_vers'

'fink -V'

'fink list -i --section=x11-system'

'fink list -i kdebase3'

or if you installed 'bundle-kde' run:

'fink list -i bundle-kde'

And post here the results. I have seen before the same errors you are getting, but that was before the Fink-0.5.0 release. So I need to know exactly what versions are installed in your system.


Cheers...

sao,

The contents of the log:

_KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
DCOP: register 'anonymous-533' -> number of clients is now 1
DCOPServer up and running.
DCOP: unregister 'anonymous-533'
dyld: kwin can't open library: /sw/lib/libart_lgpl_2.2.dylib (No such file or $
dyld: kpersonalizer can't open library: /sw/lib/libart_lgpl_2.2.dylib (No such$
/sw/bin/startkde: line 137: 537 Trace/BPT trap kwin
/sw/bin/startkde: line 137: 538 Trace/BPT trap kpersonalizer --befor$
dyld: ksplash can't open library: /sw/lib/libart_lgpl_2.2.dylib (No such file $
/sw/bin/startkde: line 144: 547 Trace/BPT trap ksplash
dyld: kdeinit can't open library: /sw/lib/libart_lgpl_2.2.dylib (No such file $
/sw/bin/startkde: line 149: 550 Trace/BPT trap LD_BIND_NOW=true kdei$
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
dyld: ksmserver can't open library: /sw/lib/libart_lgpl_2.2.dylib (No such fil$
/sw/bin/startkde: line 157: 554 Trace/BPT trap kwrapper ksmserver
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
Error: Can't contact kdeinit!

And the versions:

'sw_vers'
6F21 (OSX 10.2.2)

'fink -V'
Package manager version: 0.11.1
Distribution version: 0.5.0a


'fink list -i --section=x11-system'
i xfree86-base 4.2.1.1-3 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-base-sh 4.2.1.1-3 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-rootles 4.2.1.1-3 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-rootles 4.2.1.1-3 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...

'fink list -i kdebase3'
i kdebase3 3.0.7-3 KDE - base system

Hopefully, this offers some assistance with your very welcome troubleshooting efforts.

I seem to be missing a lib, but being new and all.... ;-)

Cheers....

cr8tive1,
You can't use "Cheers..." at the end of your message because that is sao's patented closing.:D

I had thought twice about using "Cheers," but as the caffeine has yet to take affect.... ;-)

Later (any better?)

cr8tive1,

There's a missing dependency in the kde packages.

Please, run:

sudo apt-get install libart2-shlibs libpng3-shlibs

KDE should start well after that.

Cheers...


PS: Everybody one more round, and Cheers... :)

sao,

It worked beautifully! Thanks so much for your time in providing a solution. I've noticed how much effort you expend in assisting others and I'm sure everyone learning UNIX is as appreciative of your efforts as am I.

Now, the real learning process can begin.

Che....ooops, Later ;)

cr8tive1,

Glad it worked.

Cheers...

one step further
 

hey all (especially sao, thanks for the email help)

just another quick question. upon finally getting kde to work with fink under 10.2, i thought it was smooth sailing from there. however, once kde has finished loading, i have a desktop with menus at the top and icons of my 10.2 users desktop (cool)

but

i can't really DO anything. there's no "home base" sort of thing. start-menu-ish if you will. i can run individual commands from the top menu, but i thought kde was to have more than this. do i have something misconfigured? i feel it may be an option that i chose during first setup, but now i do not know how to get back to that setup screen. i'd rather NOT un/re install kde.

any sugguestions?

Sounds like a bad install. There should be a bar on the right side of your screen with various applications you can run. I've heard of this not showing up properly when KDE is installed as a binary. I installed via source which, although it took six hours, ran perfectly.

jdhorner,

Did you installed KDE from source or binaries?

Are you starting XDarwin in rootless or fullscreen mode ?

Cheers...

installed as follows:

chose the kde package that installs all of the required components automatically. (the secure one)

exited terminal and restarted terminal

created my ~/.xinitrc

i haven't tried -- -fullscreen. however, i HAVE tried loggin into OSX with the >console login and just running

from that terminal. it produces the same problem as my original post.

Your .xinitrc should end with the line

exec startkde

it does. in fact, the only two lines in my .xinitrc are:

source /sw/bin/init.sh
exec startkde

and that works fine. i mean, kde does load. is there any text file i can edit to check kde startup settings? or am i seriously going to have to fink uninstall and then install directly from source?

ugh.

jdhorner,

It's a FAQ. Please, read here:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/kde.php

<<Tip: To run KDE in rootless mode, disable desktop icons by starting the "Control Center" app, then going to "Desktop" and unchecking "Enable Icons on Desktop".>>

You can try to run from terminal.app with:

startx -- -fullscreen

just to see the difference.


Cheers...

this is an error message i noticed in terminal while kde was loading. could this be a problem? the error shows up more than once.

jdhorner,

You wrote you used the following command to install KDE:
There is not such a command, either is 'sudo dselect' or 'fink install'

Please, be more precise in your explanations, when did that message came out, did kde finally load? etc,etc...

Also, show us the full message-log when you start from terminal.app with startx -- -fullscreen.

'fink -V'


Cheers...

i mistyped when i showed you that command. i in fact used "sudo dselect". my mistake.

since my output in terminal is a few pages long, i thought i'd just post it online as a link for you to read:

Terminal Output
and YES, kde DOES load. i get a desktop and everything. i just don't have anything to DO once it loads. no control panel, no task manager, etc... the only thing there is a mac-like menu at the top with "file, desktop, new.... etc...." and my desktop icons. that's it.

let me know if this helps.

jdhorner,

Please, can you post the result of:

dpkg -l | grep kde

Also, run:

sudo apt-get install libart2-shlibs libpng3-shlibs

Then, start again and let me know.


Cheers...

information as requested.
 

and

jdhorner,

Write in your ~/.xinitrc file:
Start XDarwin and after post the messages from /tmp/kde.log

Cheers...

Results of the requested change to my ~/.xinitrc

any help?

jdhorner,

run:

'fink rebuild dlcompat'

Then 'rehash' or open/close terminal.app and start KDE again.

If still doesn't work, I suggest to write an email to the kde package maintainer, with all the relevant information. (sw_vers, 'fink -V', the temp/kde.log)

Benjamin Reed <ranger@befunk.com>

Let me know the result.

Cheers...

I woke up this message after starting an install of bundle-kde last night. *sigh*

dpkg: error processing /sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl-dev_3.0.7-5_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install):
conflicting packages - not installing kdelibs3-ssl-dev
Errors were encountered while processing:
/sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.0.7-5_darwin-powerpc.deb
/sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl-dev_3.0.7-5_darwin-powerpc.deb
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't batch-install packages: /sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl_3.0.7-5_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/stable/crypto/binary-darwin-powerpc/kdelibs3-ssl-dev_3.0.7-5_darwin-powerpc.deb

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

% sw_vers
ProductName: Mac OS X
ProductVersion: 10.2.2
BuildVersion: 6F21

% fink -V
Package manager version: 0.11.1
Distribution version: 0.5.0a.cvs

% fink list -i --section=x11-system
Information about 1900 packages read in 4 seconds.

i xfree86-base 4.2.1.1-4 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-base-sh 4.2.1.1-4 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-rootles 4.2.1.1-4 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-rootles 4.2.1.1-4 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...

Please don't tell me I have to that whole install again...

EDIT: Also, how do you get a list of available packages (like fink list)?

Justnip,

Please, post again the last 15 lines of the error-log.

Don't you get a list of available packages with 'fink list' ? If you want options try 'fink list --help' or check here:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/index.php


Cheers...

Is there a command to recall the most recent Terminal output?

And what I meant was, is there a command to list the available pre-built packages or whatever (i.e. what you get when you use sudo apt-get) that is like fink list. Fink list works fine.

Justnip,

I don't know of any command to recall the most recent terminal output.

I don't use apt-get very much, so I don't know of a list like 'fink list'. The apt-get command --help shows:
Cheers...

That's everything that comes up when I try to install it again.

Justinp,

It's allright if you can't post again the error messages.

Please, tell me, which package you where trying to install:

'bundle-kde' or 'bundle-kde-ssl'


Cheers...

justinp,

I got an idea of what's going on.

Can you show me the result of:

'dpkg -l | grep kde'

Cheers...

I tried to install 'bundle-kde'

justinp,

I checked my files and found I had the same problem before when trying to install bundle-kde-ssl.

What I did then, was to run:

'sudo dpkg -r --force-depends kdelibs3 kdelibs3-dev'

Then, I ran individually:

'fink install kdelibs3-ssl'

'fink install kdelibs3-ssl-dev'

And, finally I ran again:

'fink install bundle-kde-ssl'

I took a long time, but it didn't reinstall anything that was already installed from before. And it worked.


Cheers...

fink install kdelibs3-ssl worked just fine, but then...Thanks for the continuing help

justinp,

Sorry, my mistake, that should be:

'fink install kdelibs3-ssl-dev'

Cheers...

sao...

this is what was said to me by the author:

"Well, did you install libpng3? That should fix the library issue you
had, and likely things will start then..."

but again, if you see my earlier posts, this:
is what happens when i try and install the libpng3 files. now as we can see in this above, do you think this has something to do with cvs vs. regular setup or anything? just curious. again, ANY help would be awesome.

also, would any of justinp's problems and solutions help me at all?

thanks!!!

jdhorner,

Please, show me the result of:

'fink list -i --section=x11-system'

Cheers...

I got in trouble quite a few times when mixing binary installs and source installations. Anyhow, you have 0.5.0a.cvs, why don't you try running:

'fink install libpng3-shlibs'

and see what comes out.

Cheers...

Well, 'fink install bundle-kde-ssl' finished sometime early this morning. It works. :)

Thanks again sao

Justinp,

Glad it worked.

Cheers...

sao

here is the output of that:

let me know what you think of that, and then i'll try your newer advice about 'fink install libpng3-shlibs' and such.

thanks again.

jdhorner,

I would try first to run:

'apt-get -f install'

and see what comes out, if that doesn't work, maybe try updating all the xfree86 packages:

'fink update xfree86-base'
'fink update xfree86-rootless'
'fink update xfree86-rootless-shlibs'


Cheers...

of course, at this part, i say no 'cause it wants to UNinstall everything that what i'm trying to install depends on. or should i let it uninstall all of that and then re-install the kde-bundle-ssl-whatever package ?

i'll try your second tip first.

thanks

sao

just a few more quick notes:

1. updating xfree86 stuff went fine.
2. booted kde, same problem.
3. decided to go back to sq. one with fink and visited their page on sf.net
4. found this page: http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/jag-bootstrap.php
5. realized that this is NOT how i installed fink on my fresh install of jaguar a few months ago. i used their binary installer. but their page on the binary installer seems to indicate that the newest verison installs fine on 10.2. the like above, however, does NOT lead to this same conclusion.

finally, does this mean that i should scrap my entire install of fink and start over by following the bootstrapping instructions?

what do you think?

You mean to say that you used the Fink-0.4.1 binary installer in 10.2?

If you did that, I would suggest you to delete your Fink and XFree86 installation and start from scratch again. If you don't know what to delete, let me know.

And then, install again Fink with the Fink 0.5.0a Binary Installer from here:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/index.php


Cheers...

no, no.

i used their most recent binary installer 0.5.0a for my fresh jag install originally. which, according to their install page, is fine.

why then, at THIS page: http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/jag-bootstrap.php do they have THIS text: "Here are the step-by-step instructions to install Fink on Mac OS X 10.2." ?

i mean, why do this bootstrap stuff if the binary installer is supposed to do that?

are we supposed to use the binary install 0.5.0a on OSX 10.2.x ONLY if we're upgrading and use the bootstrap method if we're installing from scratch?

do you see what i mean?

No, the bootstrap method was the way to install Fink from scratch in 10.2, before they released the binary installer.

At the moment, as I understand it, if you want to install Fink from scratch in 10.2 you should use the Fink 0.5.0a Binary Installer.

However, somethings must have gone wrong in your installation, and I would install from scratch again. We can do it together if you want.


Cheers...

jdhorner,

Maybe, if you decide to reinstall you could try installing the Fink source release from here:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/srcdist.php

Let me know.


Cheers...

finally
 

sao (and everyone else)

thanks so much for your help and sorry for such a delayed reply. after running:
'fink install libpng3-shlibs'
and then redoing the compile for KDE worked!

it finally works. everything is there and functional.

of course, now that i have it working, i wish it were a little faster. i do get some improvements if running it under >console instead of via terminal when logged into my OSX account.

anyway, thanks again for all your help.