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Felix_MC 09-08-2007 08:31 AM

Leopard on PPC's?
 
Prob not the best place to post this, but when Leopard comes out, is it gonna work only on intel based Mac's or will it work on old PPC's eMacs too:o?

Craig R. Arko 09-08-2007 08:58 AM

As far as I have read, it should run on G5 and most G4 systems. It would not surprise me if it was uncomfortably slow on all but the fastest G4, so the eMac may be stretching it.

The recent releases of iLife and iWork 08 probably give good clues about system requirements.

solipsism 09-08-2007 09:26 AM

Let's just say that I heard from a friend that the newest Leopard build is surprising fast on a 1GHz G4 with 768MB RAM.

AHunter3 09-08-2007 12:38 PM

I bet the XPostFacto crowd will be running it on G3 Macs as well.

Felix_MC 09-08-2007 01:26 PM

Well, I have iLife 08, and exept for iMovie, everything else works fine... My mac has 521 RAM and 700 MGHz Processor.. Im prob gonna have to upgrade it as i cannot afford a new one

J Christopher 09-08-2007 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHunter3 (Post 407168)
I bet the XPostFacto crowd will be running it on G3 Macs as well.

I hope G3s are supported, at least unofficially. The newest G3 laptops will be only be 4 years old in (late) October 2007. Forced obsolescence within such a short period would be a move untypical of Apple.

Understandably, certain apps will require at least a G4 or G5 (ie. Garage Band has always required at least a G4 to be installed without any hacks.). It would be unfortunate if the entire Leopard OS was off limits to G3 users, however.

It didn't take very long after Tiger was released for many apps to require Tiger to run. I anticipate the same sort of thing from developers after Leopard's release. I don't have a problem with having to have the latest OS to run the latest software, but I don't think users should have to have the latest hardware to run the latest OS.

I certainly hope that Leopard is not so resource intensive that even lightweight applications require more processing power than the faster G3s can provide, especially considering the fastest G3s are generally faster than early G4s, which are expected to be supported by 10.5, for the majority of applications.

AHunter3 09-08-2007 03:14 PM

a) It hasn't happened so far: any computer than can run the latest MacOS X can run it faster than it can run older versions of OS X. So if you're patient enough to con your G3-upgraded PowerMac 9600 into booting Tiger, there's no advantage in going with Jaguar or Panther instead, they're not faster on older hardware.

b) That's not a hypothetical example. Those folks have Tiger loading on Kangas (first-generation G3 PowerBooks), upgraded 9500s and 9600s, even upgraded PowerComputer clones. I used XPostFacto to get Panther on my WallStreet PB and it totally rocks.

Craig R. Arko 09-08-2007 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHunter3 (Post 407191)
a) It hasn't happened so far: any computer than can run the latest MacOS X can run it faster than it can run older versions of OS X. So if you're patient enough to con your G3-upgraded PowerMac 9600 into booting Tiger, there's no advantage in going with Jaguar or Panther instead, they're not faster on older hardware.

Actually, I believe I have seen situations with G3's and lower amounts of RAM where Panther (10.3.9) was the sweet spot.

Zimmy 09-09-2007 01:59 PM

I do remember a site stating that the minimum for Leopard is a 700mhz G4. Now where does that leave the late iBook G3's, which are still techinally "supported"?

J Christopher 09-19-2007 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zimmy (Post 407344)
I do remember a site stating that the minimum for Leopard is a 700mhz G4. Now where does that leave the late iBook G3's, which are still techinally "supported"?

Officially? Running Tiger. Unofficially? That remains to be seen. If critical aspects of the code rely on Altivec or SSE, then it might run too slowly on a G3, assuming it runs at all, to be practical.

Garagebandboy 09-21-2007 02:24 PM

I'm Ben and i got my hands on a old G3 running Classic OS 9 I looked in the disks that came with my G4 laptop and i installed leopard on it. It worked took 3 minutes to load leopard but once i was in it was not slow or fast. It was normal speeds however garage band and i dvd refused to load. So i guess you need a G4 or higher to make the most out of i life.

ArcticStones 09-21-2007 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garagebandboy (Post 410287)
...I looked in the disks that came with my G4 laptop and i installed leopard on it. It worked took 3 minutes to load leopard but once i was in it was not slow or fast. It was normal speeds however garage band and i dvd refused to load. So i guess you need a G4 or higher to make the most out of i life.

Ben, I am not quite with you here... Leopard (OSX 10.5) is yet to be released from Apple. So if that really is what you’ve installed, it does not sound entirely legit.

How did you acquire it? Or do you mean OSX 10.4 Tiger (not Leopard).

Please clarify.

-- ArcticStones

tlarkin 09-21-2007 05:31 PM

It will require a G3 with built in firewire and 512mb of ram. That is the minimum requirement, I think the recommended is at least a G4 with built in firewire or better.

J Christopher 09-22-2007 12:20 PM

Tiger or Leopard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 410320)
It will require a G3 with built in firewire and 512mb of ram. That is the minimum requirement, I think the recommended is at least a G4 with built in firewire or better.

Are you referring to Tiger or Leopard?

tlarkin 09-22-2007 01:11 PM

Leopard, I know it has to have at least built in firewire and I think 512mb of RAM, and I will bet it will work on last gen G3s.

kel101 09-22-2007 05:46 PM

do you think they will upgrade the iphone with a software update to leopard, or wait to the next gen iphone

tlarkin 09-22-2007 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kel101 (Post 410476)
do you think they will upgrade the iphone with a software update to leopard, or wait to the next gen iphone

I don't see any reason to release a new iphone OS, this one is stable and the bugs are still being worked out. Upgrading it to Leopard would most likely be more headaches than benefits.

cwtnospam 09-22-2007 05:55 PM

I thought that the iPhone OS was based on Leopard. :confused:

tlarkin 09-22-2007 06:15 PM

I believe the iPhone OS is a hybrid OS that of Tiger with some of Leopard's technology put in it. I know that it does use core animation which is a Leopard technology.

Garagebandboy 09-23-2007 11:08 AM

Apple
 
My Uncle Works For Apple

Garagebandboy 09-23-2007 11:09 AM

My Uncle Works For Apple So He got me a beta version cd rom

hayne 09-23-2007 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garagebandboy (Post 410582)
My Uncle Works For Apple So He got me a beta version cd rom

Please tell us your uncle's name so we can inform Apple of the violation of his contract.

Craig R. Arko 09-23-2007 02:06 PM

OK, that's enough. Wait for the official announcement folks. :rolleyes:


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