Justnip,

Same as ateles, could you show me the result of:

'ls -l /sw/fink/dists'

and also of:

'fink list --section=x11-wm'

Check if you have it at:

/sw/fink/10.2/stable/main/finkinfo/x11-wm/...


Cheers...

Bluehz,

I remember the black cursor problem, the fix then, was to update to XFree86- 4.2.1.1

I don't know why you got it again.

Are you using OroborOSX ?

Maybe you try:

'fink rebuild xfree86-base'
'fink rebuild xfree86-rootless'


Cheers...

sao:

% ls -l /sw/fink/dists
lrwxr-xr-x 1 justinp admin 13 Dec 9 17:42 /sw/fink/dists -> /sw/fink/10.2

% fink list --section=x11-wm
Information about 792 packages read in 1 seconds.

blackbox-rootle 0.62.1-11 Alternate Window Manager, works in XDarwi...
enlightenment 0.16.5-8 Themeable, featureful window manager
fvwm 1.24r-5 X11 window manager with large virtual des...
fvwm-common 2.4.11-1 Common files for versions 1 and 2.xx of fvwm
fvwm-common-ewm 0.7-4 Common files for versions 1 and 2.xx of fvwm
fvwm-common-no- 2.4.11-1 Common files for versions 1 and 2.xx of fvwm
fvwm-ewmh 0.7-4 X11 win. man. w/ lrge virtual desktop, ad...
fvwm-icons 2.4.0-5 Icons for fvwm
fvwm2 2.4.11-1 X11 window manager with large virtual des...
fvwm2-no-gnome 2.4.11-1 X11 wind. man., large virtual desktop, v2...
i icewm 1.2.2-1 X11 window manager - with GNOME support.
icewm-basic 1.2.2-1 X11 window manager - no GNOME support.
sawfish 1.1-2 Themeable and scriptable window manager

And no, it isn't in /sw/fink/10.2/stable/main/finkinfo/x11-wm/... (the rootless version is though.)

thatch:

% fink info blackbox
Information about 792 packages read in 1 seconds.

pkg blackbox version ###
Failed: no version info available for blackbox

IIRC, the last time someone had so few packages in their list, it turned out they didn't have their trees configured correctly in /sw/etc/fink.conf

Mine is exactly the same except for the Trees: and the FetchAltDir

Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto local/bootstrap
Distribution: 10.2
FetchAltDir: /swbackup/src

Does this mean I need to edit that file so that the Trees: line reads the same as yours?

Well, sao is really the fink expert around here and so I defer to him. But I think having the unstable tree is a good thing and it wouldn't hurt to add it and see what happens. The unstable tree is for the cutting edge versions that are to be tested before they are made into stable.

As far as the FetchAltDir: /swbackup/src ...
I don't have that directory on my rig or the listing in my fink.conf. So, I don't know about that.

I wonder, did you do a clean install of fink after you upgraded to 10.2? Or did you upgrade fink after an archive and install? It might be good to read up on the sourceforge site about these ways.

I did a clean install of 10.2 and then waited for Fink 0.5.0a to come out before installing Fink again.

I installed Fink with the installer at the Fink sourceforge site, then installed xfree86-base and -rootless with Fink, and installed and updated the XDarwin app from the XonX sourceforge site.

Anyway, I guess I'll wait for sao's reply before I change anything.

Looks like sao might have signed off for the night as it's quite late in Singapore.

I don't remember ever having to update XDarwin.app separately from Xfree86. Anyway, my XDarwin.app version is at 1.1.1.1. What do you get when you:?

% fink list --section=x11-system
Information about 792 packages read in 1 seconds.

system-xfree86 4.2-1 Placeholder package for manually installe...
i xfree86-base 4.2.1.1-3 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-base-sh 4.2.1.1-3 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-rootles 4.2.1.1-3 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...
i xfree86-rootles 4.2.1.1-3 XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and...

justinp, I've been searching the forum for the place I recently saw something like what you're experiencing, not many packages coming up. Here is a link to that thread. You may have to scroll a bit to find the relevant 'off' topic on page 2, I believe.

If you have a good backup system whereby you can test anything you want and fairly quickly get back to your previous cloned backup, then if I were you, I would add those unstable trees and do a 'fink selfupdate-cvs' followed by a 'fink update-all'. It will take some time but I think it will fix you up.

Unstable
 

It is indeed a good thing! One way to have access to ALL the trees, after having entered them in the config file, is to use Fink Commander. The new version lets the user click on the "tree" from which he wishes to download. For example, one will not find Mozilla in the stable, so if you want a browser that works within Fink, one will have to go with unstable because Good ol' Mozilla is continuously in the "unstable" mode, albeit by name. Someone once said that "Beta" is a state of mind. Well...., one could say that "Unstable" is also a state on mind... L:p L...... especially mine.:mad:

sao,

Here is a summary of what I learned from the fink-users list regarding my issue (as described above) and what I eventually had to do to fix fink on my system. After posting a similar description of my problem, I received the following suggestions:

"I'm not 100% sure the Upgrade Matrix is appropriate here, since there's
an OS version change, too (fink 0.9.1 was for 10.1). Try following the
Jaguar update instructions as per

http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/jaguar.php"

"I may be wrong, but for a long time already the "Upgrade Matrix" has
been basically wrong and useless: You cannot upgrade automatically from
anything earlier than 0.4.1a. I would suspect that this is still the
case.

[]
> gzip -dc packages-0.4.1a.tar.gz | tar -xf -
> > gzip: packages-0.4.1a.tar.gz: not in gzip format

This is because your old fink version tries to download from a
non-existing URL. The file downloaded under the name
"packages-0.4.1a.tar.gz" is probably just an error message in html
format.

You will be better off by doing a complete fresh installation from
scratch."


I tried the first suggestion by following the instructions on http://fink.sourceforge.net/news/jaguar.php. This didn't work properly - the upgrade kept failing. At this point, I was frustrated with trying to upgrade my old version, so I removed it and installed 0.5.0a from scratch (off of the binaries).

You may have noticed that since my original post in this discussion thread, the upgrade matrice's instructions have changed for folks with version 0.3.X.

Thanks for helping out!

OK, blackbox is up and running. Adding the unstable lines to the file and then updating did the trick (shouldn't I have initially been given an option to use the unstable trees?)

OK, now how about XMMS...

I installed it yesterday and it (sortof) worked. It loaded up, but it would not play any music (I got a warning about the DiskWriter plug-in IIRC.) I switched to the only other available output (some eSound something or other) and when I hit play the application basically quit responding. Ever since then I get this warning when I try to load XMMS with "xmms &"

Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library

Also, I rebuilt the application with the hope that that would fix it, but it didn't (XMMS worked when I was using XWindows with 10.1)

justnip,

I checked in Fink database and there is no blackbox available in the "stable" branch for 10.2:

Package blackbox
In current-unstable:------Version 0.65.0-1
In current-stable:--------not present
In 0.5.0a-stable:---------not present
In 0.4.1-stable:-----------Version 0.61.1-3 (10.1 only)

http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/package.php/blackbox

thatch is correct. If you want just the "blackbox" package, you will have to use the unstable branch, and for that you should add "unstable/main unstable/crypto" to the Trees: line in your fink.config file in /sw/etc. And after ran 'fink selfupdate' or 'fink selfupdate-cvs'.

Or, you could install "blackbox-rootless", which you "have" in the stable branch now. It's the same package plus works in rootless-mode.

'fink install blackbox-rootless"

Package blackbox-rootless
In current-unstable: ___ Version 0.65.0-1
In current-stable: ___ Version 0.62.1-11
In 0.5.0a-stable: ___ Version 0.62.1-11
In 0.4.1-stable: ___ Version 0.62.1-1 (10.1 only)


Cheers...

PS: Justnip, I posted too late, and I just saw your post above...

justnip,

Check the forums for "xmms and no sound" and also read the Fink FAQ here:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usag...php#xmms-quiet


Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library:
it just means that the program will use the default English messages, date formats, etc. The program will function normally otherwise.

Check here for more info:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/trouble.php#locale


Cheers...

LizardKing,

Thanks a lot for the info. I guess I was quite sleepy last night, I should have realized that you had made also an OS version change in the meantime (fink 0.9.1 was for 10.1).

You made the right decision by removing and installing Fink- 0.5.0a from scratch.


Cheers...

justnip,

You wrote in a post above:
This is very weird, because when you install xfree86-rootless with Fink, it installs also the XDarwin.app. Why would you want to update it with the one at the Xonx project site?

Cheers...

thatch,

Good work at keeping the troops alive. :)

Cheers...

Ah, very good, thank you (all.)

Interestingly enough, while esd was running as a normal user as it is supposed to, killing it and then removing its temporary file fixed the problem anyway.

:)

EDIT: Missed your post. I installed the app from the XonX site because it hadn't been installed (wasn't in my Apps folder.)

It can't be, somethings must have gone wrong with your installation of the xfree86-rootless package with Fink. I would definitely ran:

'fink reinstall xfree86-rootless'

Cheers...