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Craig R. Arko 07-26-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cwtnospam (Post 396046)
If you go the high volume, low profit route, you end up like Dell, trying to create a perception that you offer something unique by creating many marginally different models of the same thing. That's fine if you're just selling parts, but when you're trying to develop new systems to do new things, quality matters.

Of course Apple tried this approach once before, too, as anyone who recalls the magic word 'Performa' can attest. Fortunately they survived that, and eventually put in management that learned from those mistakes. ;)

tlarkin 07-26-2007 12:10 PM

more apple in the media, and this is coming from a PC magazine

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C18...62397%2C00.asp

cwtnospam 07-26-2007 12:25 PM

I love this part:
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Anyway, the way I see it is that the differences between the Mac and the PC that really matter are minor. The big exception is the usability factor.
That's like saying that the only difference between a four lane super highway and a dirt road is the smooth ride. :rolleyes:

tlarkin 07-26-2007 12:28 PM

I agree with that statement, both made from the same hardware and both perform the same tasks, the mac is just a different path and streamlined in some fashions. I wouldn't say it's as drastic as a paved highway versus a gravel road.

A lot of it is personal preference.

cwtnospam 07-26-2007 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 396097)
A lot of it is personal preference.

If you're in IT. :D

The fact is that most PC users don't choose PCs. They buy them because they don't know there are alternatives. Even when they're vaguely aware that there is a choice, they often are conditioned to believe that it isn't significant, which is what Dvorak is promulgating. That's why so many recent switchers are surprised that they like their Mac so much. Yes, they heard it was easier to use, but they couldn't really believe it until they spent some time with it.

tlarkin 07-26-2007 12:42 PM

well that article was mostly fluff anyways, but its like the third or fourth article I have seen PC mag write about apple.

Apple is definitely a status symbol and definitely pop culture, which has some bad stigma to it but that how it goes I guess.

J Christopher 07-26-2007 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 395965)
I just want a compromise from an iMac to a Mac Pro. I don't want/need dual xeon processors, its over kill and I don't like the idea of all in one machines.

I would love to see Apple come out with a micro tower, something like a cross between a B&W and a Mini, a tower made with laptop components. If the CPU is soldered onto the motherboard, Apple would be able to protect future sales and profits, while still allowing maximum configurability, increased component upgradeability (good for enterprise and geeks) and a small, stylish form factor (good for consumer appeal and Apple's perpetual trendy image).

tlarkin 07-26-2007 07:07 PM

Well they just make a barebones mini tower with an apple motherboard, and an intel processor with all the nice integrated periphs that macs have, FW, usb, etc, a few PCI-E slots, a few SATA ports, and then you can pick out whatever RAM, HD, and video card you want. I mean especially if gaming is going to come to the Mac platform so many gamers would switch because lets face it, vista sucks.

Anti 07-29-2007 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tlarkin (Post 395961)
ya ya ya most people on this forum disagree with me on that point, but hey I can agree to disagree that's no biggie.

The problem with dell is they suck, bottom line. Gateways suck too. In fact the only two PCs that are made by a company that I like are Powerspec and HP business class. I gotta hand it to HP their business class desktops are really decent and decently priced for what you get. I support about 6 to 7 thousand HP desktops and laptops at work, and I get stuck doing a lot of the warranty repair on them. As far as PCs go, I don't mind them and I have to fix them when they break.

Powerspecs are a smaller company but build their systems barebones like. Giving you what you need with minimal bloated software, and its built generically. So if a part goes bad out of warranty 99% of off the shelf computer parts fit right in the case and work out of the box with out a hitch. That is a very nice luxury to have IMHO.

For the record I hate repairing gateways, and Dells.

Also does that reflect total sales Hayne or laptop sales?

I'm going to agree with tlarkin on this one. I hate Dells and Gateways. I run a bit of a neighborhood repair shop, where my friends come to me for their computer woes in the area. I've had more Dell and Gateway failures than anything else.

I've never seen a single Compaq or HP computer fly through here. If I had to buy a PC, it'd be HP or Compaq. Simply because HP/Compaq's are so robust.

But hey, why worry? All intel Macs make the best Windows machines, after all ^_^

cwtnospam 07-29-2007 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Anti (Post 396660)
If I had to buy a PC, it'd be HP or Compaq. Simply because HP/Compaq's are so robust.

If I had to buy a PC it would be this one. The price is good, and it doesn't need anti virus software.

ArcticStones 07-29-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cwtnospam (Post 396722)
If I had to buy a PC it would be this one. The price is good, and it doesn't need anti virus software.

Don’t jump to conclusions! It depends on what diseased fingers might be dancing on those keys while you’re having your coffee break. :D

By the way, my translator friend who is now probably switching to Mac (because he can’t stomach the thought of Vista), has never had a virus on his PC.

cwtnospam 07-29-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 396723)
By the way, my translator friend who is now probably switching to Mac (because he can’t stomach the thought of Vista), has never had a virus on his PC.

As far as he knows. Most zombie PCs sending out spam right this minute have been infected without their owners knowing it, and it wouldn't be profitable to do if the infection was easily discovered.


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