Safari 3.0b
 

Crashes after install on PPC G5. Deleted prefs and reinstalled. Same issue???

Mine crashed the first time but worked ok from the second launch attempt onward...

Worked fine from the start on my MacBook.

No problems installing or running on 10.4.9 PPC

(Had to remove SafariPlus from ~/Library/InputManagers )

still brushed metal?
 

It installed fine on my iBook G4, and Safari claims to be v3.0. However, I'm not noticing any real differences besides running faster. Is the Mac version still supposed to be brushed metal?

Works fine for me...plus some cool new tricks
 

I had no trouble installing on a G5 iMac and a PowerMac Dual G5 2.0. Safari 3.0b seems to render pages faster than 2.0. Some other neat tricks I have found so far:

Inline Find: a cool find bar lowers into the window below the tabs. Enter a word and the page dims, with first found word in orange box and the others in white. Cmd-G goes to next found word with a quick throbbing animation. Much nicer than the old pop-up window.

Mail Contents of This Page: sends a full html page embedded in an Apple Mail message. Looks great.

Dragable tabs: Rearrange your tabs with a click and drag.

Add Bookmark for These Tabs: Creates a Saved Tabs folder for the Bookmarks manager

Remove SafariPlus and Speed Download
 

When I installed the beta, it wouldn't boot. I tried 2.04 and that wouldn't boot. I tried repairing permissions and updating prebindings, to no effect. I tried removing Speed Download. Nothing. Then I removed SafariPlus. Bingo. Both would suddenly boot. I did try the new version of Speed Download. It crashes both versions.

I'm not seeing the new inline PDF viewing controls.

The Apple/Safari promo site seems to show a transparent utility window for the PDF controls, but I'm not seeing it...

Anyone else?

I don't see it either. It's probably not in this beta.

Worked fine for me. I can't see the option to save tabs when quitting, is it in this version?

I think tabs are saved automatically (although it doesn't open then automatically). The "History" menu contains an option to "reopen all windows from last session".

The feature might even work after a crash - it did after a "force quit" and a 'kill' simulation, anyway...

For me the installation took a very long time. I quit all apps but the Finder and Installer. Right at the beginning ("Preparing installation"?) the progress bar halted and my external hard drive ground away for just over five minutes. Have no idea what the Installer was doing there. The restart also took a very long time.

Subjectively, performance has improved noticeably. I often have several tabs open. Under previous versions if one tab was loading images or whatever I'd just get the SPOD and be unable to switch tabs. Now I can open a page with lots of images in a tab and switch to other tabs without getting the SPOD.

I read another forum which allows you to add to a poster's "reputation". When doing this a dialog box pops up where you can type in a comment. If you do this on a page and try to close that tab Safari now pops up the following warning:

"You have entered text on '[title of web page]'. If you close the tab, your changes will be lost. Do you want to close the tab anyway?"

I can't see where to turn this feature "off". Maybe in a future release.

The Unified theme is particular to Leapord, and is a system wide thing. That's why you still see brushed metal on this one.

Annoying "close this tab" Warning From Safari 3.0
 

I belong to another forum (Teak Door) that uses the same software as this forum (vBulletin® Version 3.6.7). That forum has the "reputation" feature enabled. This allows you to give thumbs up or thumbs down to an individual post and make a comment for the poster. However, with Safari 3.0 if you try to close a tab on which you have used the "reputation" feature you always get this annoying warning:

http://www.mgnewman.com/td/are_you_sure.jpg

I simply can't find any way to turn this warning off. It also shows up sometimes, but not always, if you add a post to a thread.

personally
i wouldn't use safari
I'll use Firefox (what I'm using now)
it crashes less and is better

This isn't a thread about which browser is best, it's a thread about Safari version 3.0 (beta)....

So, just after I posted the above reply I tried to close this tab and got the following....

http://www.mgnewman.com/td/are_you_sure2.jpg

Holding down the "option" key while clicking the Close "(X)" seems to bypass the dialogue...

Safari on Windows
 

I've installed Safari 3 Beta on my work Windows PC. All seems very nice (& familar to my home setup). However, the browser doesn't seem to have a "home" icon in the top bar. Is this a config issue (unlikely) or because it's beta? Instead there is a icon for submitting bugs. Seems odd to release a browser without a home icon. Instead you have to navigate to the History menu to select Home.

Otherwise, very fast and all good.

View --> Customize Toolbar

Not the most intuitive, but that's where it is.

aaaAAAAAAaaaah. thank you very much. odd that home isn't set up by default. maybe they'll swap the "bug" for the "house" when they come out of beta.

The long delay at the beginning of the installation was for backing up your existing Safari, WebKit, and friends for the uninstaller to use.

The "you have entered text on X" warning will appear if the page submits the text without refreshing the whole page. So "Quick Reply" will cause it, but a "regular" reply probably won't.

I installed 3.0b yesterday and after a few launches of the application it is behaving smoothly for me. The initial launch had some issues with wanting to freeze, but after quitting and reopening Safari 3 times it went away.

The "Do you want to close the tab anyway" dialog box is getting a little old, though.

Yes. The preferences section needs a "Skip annoying warnings" check box. :cool:

Is anyone else out there having problems with strange text rendering in safari 3. It's not on every site, but for example.. all the text on youtube is sort of broken up.

Sorry about that. Solved my own problem.. Looks like it was a duplicate font issue.

any info on running Safari 3 side by side with Safari 2? There's no way im going to install S3B on my only box / mission critical lappy-486 aka macbook pro

Seems like the address bar auto-complete has changed the way it works.

It appears as though it defaults to providing the top level domain only - even if it has not been specifically bookmarked or visited in the history.

Example:
www.example.com/one/two/index.html is bookmarked and www.example.com is not in the history or bookmarks.

Typing "examp..." provides www.example.com rather than www.example.com/one/two/index.html

This is definitely different behavior than Safari 2.x

Interesting, but I had no such delay when installing on a PowerBook that has no external drive.

Right you are. It would sure be nice to be able to turn the warning off....

So far:

Pros: I really like the new search feature, and the auto spell correct feature.

Cons: On Blooger.com Safari will not allow me to upload images.

I'm having two issues:
1. The aforementioned irritating warning.

and, more worrying,

2. It seems as though links that are supposed to open in new windows just don't do anything.

Is anybody else having the latter issue?

I actually think this feature is somewhat useful. I sometimes accidentally close a tab when I am typing in this very forum, then have to retype everything over again.

Here's something that isn't useful, and I think it was in Safari 2.0 as well: Command clicking on a folder in the bookmarks bar opens all the sites in that folder if tabbed browsing is on! I sometimes hit the command key a little early to open a bookmark in a new tab, and it's no fun having Safari try to open 48 tabs at once.

S'funny how people see things differently because of a quarter of a second's difference in a finger movement. I was just thinking how great that technique is for opening up all my 'usual suspects' I like to read in the morning! But that's because I haven't hit the command key too early yet... There are plenty of examples where I do the same. The eject key delay comes to mind - haven't accidentally hit it enough times to be thankful for the introduced delay in 10.4.9

More intuitive being... ?

any reference to "Turn off(/on) Site Specific Hacks"
 

in the debug menu.....

This may not be quite the place for this but...

Has anyone (web designer/developer?) noticed safari 3 rendering margins/padding incorrectly? I've built a form that with floats and margins etc and it is just not lining up correctly in Safari 3 (Mac or PC). I looks fine in FF and IE7 - of course ie6 is completely wrong...

Also, until the Safari PC update today, I was completely unable to use safari. No text showed up ever either on a page or in the menu system so I couldn't even report the issue.

I haven't noticed any strong issues in general. To my view of pages I frequent it looks nicer than FF. But there is "Report Bugs to Apple" under the Safari menu.... as long as the page is public viewable....

To get rid of the annoying "are you sure you want to close this tab" warning you can type this at the terminal:

Maybe this hidden option (DebugConfirmTossingUnsubmittedFormText) will make it into the Safari 3 preferences at some point.

Thanks! That little message was driving me crazy.

Can someone tell me please on how i can duplicate tabs in safari 3? Thank you

Is anybody else having trouble with Safari 3.02b not displaying PDF's? Safari installed just fine, and runs like the screamer that it is. Until I click on a PDF link. Then, I get a grey screen, a swirling pinwheel, and a dialog that says it can't find a compatible PDF reader. I've got Acrobat 8+ Professional, Reader 8, and ShubertIt aboard. I've disabled both the Adobe Reader Plugin and ShubertIt by moving them to a "Disabled Plugins" folder (out of the /Library/Internet Plugins folder), and restarting. I've tried various combinations of those, with no joy.

I know dang well there's a solution for this, and it isn't complicated. Has anybody else run into this problem, and have you solved it?

I figured out my problem was directly related to Speed Download version 3. I removed the application helper for sending downloads to Speed Download from SAfari and it works fine. SD 4 also works fine but I don't have a license for that version yet. I wonder if there is anyone else who had problems with Speed Download 3.
Thanks,
Ryan