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Spammers getting desperate...
Recently checked my gmail junk box. I know that captchas prevent spam, but now spammers seem to be using captchas to (try) to get around spam filters:
http://i5.tinypic.com.nyud.net:8080/4hc3j15.gif I've also noticed things like "buuy vxxxiaagria" and "go to http://www..druREMOVEgmedsitebest.com/ but remove the REMOVE and the 2nd . dot" |
wow. Looks like spam software is progressing nicely if they have to use things like that to get by it. I have to say though, Gmail does a fabulous job of filtering out spam.
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I’m getting desperate, too
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I’m getting a bit desperate, too. Or at least very very annoyed. Last spring I was receiving perhaps a handful of spam emails per month. Tops. Naturally, I failed to understand this "Spam Problem" everybody was talking about. In the course of the autumn it really took of -- like a cancer out of control. Just after new years I’d had enough. I reset my MS Entourage preferences to max security: receive emails only from senders in my address book. It seems to me I should be able to do better. After all, as far as I know, most of the spam is sent as "blind copy". So I’ve been looking for a way to block the receipt of all BCC email, allowing only that where my address is explicitly type in. (Oh, I know that I would have to forego a few newsletters, but that seems a small price to pay.) Unfortunately, I haven’t figured out how to do that yet. (Grateful for tips!) My dismal conclusion is that there are only two cures for the email pandemic... But I’ll put those thoughts in a separate thread. . |
If anything gets past gmail's spam filter and then past Mail.app's, I mark it as junk and it learns. I don't get spam.
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However, I still feel a need to go periodically go through the emails that have been filtered out as junk. I’ve found job queries there, which otherwise would have been lost work and lost income. |
Yeah I get a ton of offers to purchase penny stocks and levitra meds but everytime I just hit (Junk) and it tends to self filter from then on afterwards. Man I would hate to have to go through a hotmail or yahoo address on a regular basis...
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It seems spammers are using anti-spam techniques to send spam. Image captchas, the messREMOVEage inserting thing, the oBfu5cati0n...
Wonder what will be next... |
Sadly, anti-spammage is a reactive sport. Spammers are way ahead of the curve generally, and as soon as an anti-spammage haus catches up.. well the spammers come up with new ways to overload bayesian filters and whatnot. It's a sad fact that spam is here to stay.
I should note, I used a throw away alias recently to sign up with XBox live support. That's all I've used it for as far as I remember, or as far as my inbox is concerned. Guess what I got in that account just the other day? |
I don’t get it.
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I suppose I lack technical insight, but I really would like to understand this. |
Sometimes spammers just use name lists against a domain. I often see connections trying to send to every common and not-so-common name in my domains, things that don't exist and never would have existed. When I looked in my cable internet e-mail account once, it was full of spam although I'd never actually used the account.
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1.) Set up a bunch of non-existent dummy accounts for any given domain. 2.) Conclude that those who send email to, say, any three of these accounts are non-human bots. 3.) Automatically block all mail from those IP nos. to given domain. 4.) Blacklist those IP nos., and if necessary IP providers along the path, effectuating a more comprehensive "denial of services". |
Absolutely, that can already be done. I don't recall the product name however.
On some of our higher-profile Linux servers we automatically blacklist your IP if you fail an SSH login three times. Same could be done with failed SMTP attempts or whatever. The other anti-spam technology that's available right now but barely used is SPF, which compares the sender's IP with the sender's claimed domain and if it doesn't match, it blocks that mail. |
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What if all IP providers did so? Should we have any sympathy with the owners of botnet computers who might obviously get screwed? Are those naïve questions? |
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In the past few days I've noticed a massive increase in the amount of spam in my Yahoo mailbox. It used to be one or two a day as their spam filter caught the vast majority of it. But yesterday there were over 40 that got through and another 30+ today.
I wonder what the spammers did to defeat the Yahoo filters? |
I suspect that in addition to perhaps known names "attacks" that they also send to all-three-and-four-letter-combinations@knowndomain.com
I have a couple of domains with multiple email addresses and commonly the people with very short names start getting spam before others and in greater quantity. I dunno, maybe more common names? My first thought was brute-force randomization. |
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Possibly. Some spambots try a kind of 'brute-force' method of trying somewhat random email addresses.
So far, gmail has filtered every single spam message except for the one captcha. It appears to be filtering those out now, too. |
Desperate spammers -- but not educated
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I just gotta share this spam that I received yesterday, because I thought it was so hilarious. Spelling mistakes are left intact: University Degree * OBTAIN A PROSPEROUS FUTURE, MONEY-EARNING POWER, AND THE PRESTIGE THAT COMES WITH HAVING THE CAREER POSITION YOU?VE ALWAYS DREAMED OF. DIPLOMA FROM PRESTIGIOUS NON-ACCREDITED UNVERSITIES BASED ON YOUR PRESENT KNOWLEDGE AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE. * If you qualify, no required tests, classes, books or examinations. * Confidentiality Assured Prestigious non-accredited unversities. Right, there are lots of those! |
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Something similar happened a short time ago here in Tokyo - an ISP said that they were blocking outgoing port 25 and would you please use our mailserver. No problem - only one setting to change. Then, mail got bounced with "Not a biglobe.ne.jp address". I'm so happy I don't work at their support desk. |
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They certainly can, but it's a major headache for the ISP's support desk. My mail provider offers an alternate port but it's request only info - they don't publish it probably on the grounds of those who know enough to ask also know enough to use.
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No, the ISP wouldn't do that, the mail provider does it. For the 99% who uses their ISP's mail servers, this won't be an issue. Anyone who wants to use a foreign mail server/account would then have to learn how to send mail through THAT account. Google gives really easy instructions on their site, so anyone else could too.
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My ISP, in France (Free) recently blocked port 25.
You can still open it by a console if you want it. I think that's a good measure, because it isn't very intrusive, and will block a lot of zombie machines, whose owners had no idea of what was happening. |
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