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davidw 01-22-2007 02:16 AM

The one and only thing on Windows thats better
 
I thought of one think on windows, that i really like
how in "My Computer"
when ever you have a disk selected, your your in that disk or something
it shows you that pie chart of how much room is left on the disk.
I really kind of want that for all of my external media.

Now, i know you can go into activity monitor and check it out.
or theres probably some annoying utility that floats around and shows you the ammount of space left on disks graphicly.
But is there any programer who has a sly way to build that ino finder or something?

Do you agree that thats a pretty cool feature of windows?

Photek 01-22-2007 03:42 AM

You can turn on 'show item info' in your finder 'view' option.
Or just select your drive/file/folder and hit Apple+i to get info.

Reacher 01-22-2007 03:46 AM

I like to see a graphical representation of my hard drive from time to time... Disk Inventory X is a great tool to do this, and isn't annoying in the least!

chabig 01-22-2007 01:06 PM

OS X shows the free space at the bottom of every Finder window.

davidw 01-22-2007 01:13 PM

yea, i want a piechart
i thought that the piechart was pretty grovin
graphical is always better

OSx should put an indicator on the Icon for the hard disk, that would be pretty groovin

roncross@cox.net 01-22-2007 02:39 PM

Feel free to explore Xcode and develop an application to suit your needs. When I right click on a Volume, I get all the info I need.

Wee_Guy 01-22-2007 02:48 PM

Yeah, that would be cool, in the "get info" window.

Hey, they should put the pie chart in every "get info" window, to show you how much space that file or folder or app takes up.

If Apple do decide to add this feature to leopard they will probably enhance it 10 times first, because Apple can't do anything without enhancing it:D--Come to think of it...thats probably why we all love Mac and ermmm....don't love Windows!

schneb 01-22-2007 02:59 PM

It would be neat if you had a choice to choose an icon that would represent the usage of the drive. So with one look on the desktop of Dock, you can know where you are at space-wise.

davidw 01-22-2007 03:44 PM

im really amazed that its not built into the get info window at least.

"Feel free to explore Xcode and develop an application to suit your needs. When I right click on a Volume, I get all the info I need."
Im not sure there is any (at least easy) way to build Finder hacks in Xcode

tlarkin 01-22-2007 04:36 PM

i have the show info button on the tool bar, so I can just hit it, or usually I just hit cmd + I since I am very used to just using a keyboard with out a mouse.

chabig 01-22-2007 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidw (Post 351308)
im really amazed that its not built into the get info window at least.

I'm not. Those are the kind of pointless things that Microsoft builds--like that stupid flashlight that gradually exposes the contents of a window, or the flying sheets of paper when you copy a file. They are all useless.

roncross@cox.net 01-22-2007 06:09 PM

I'm sorry, I've been using this for so long, I thought it was a part of the OS.

This is what I was referring to in my earlier post.

http://www.pixture.com/software/macosx.php

See the application called CalculateSizeCM. It isn't graphical but it gives the more information you would get in a pie chart. It will give you the number of files and folders in a Volume.

davidw 01-22-2007 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chabig (Post 351329)
I'm not. Those are the kind of pointless things that Microsoft builds--like that stupid flashlight that gradually exposes the contents of a window, or the flying sheets of paper when you copy a file. They are all useless.

The Get info window dosnt even show you a percentage!!!
I really dont think its pointless to have a graphical representation of the storage space left on your jump drive. Definatly not comparible to stupid windows annimations.

biovizier 01-22-2007 06:59 PM

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The Get info window dosnt even show you a percentage!!!
Is it not the amount of space that is important to know? My file is X MB. I have Y MB space on my flash drive. If X < Y, I have enough room to copy it. As everyone has already said, every Finder window shows you Y, without trying to guess how much real space is represented by that pie chart.

What good is a percentage by itself? Do you know the actual formatted capacity of your flash drive? Multiply that by the percentage free, and you get... the same number that the Finder tells you you have free.

Now if you want to talk about things missing in "Get Info" that should be there, how about the total number of items in a given folder (as opposed to just the top level), like the pre OS X "Get Info" used to display?...

Quote:

I really dont think its pointless to have a graphical representation of the storage space left on your jump drive.
Ok, I'll try to be open minded. Please explain what benefit is provided by a pie chart over a display of an actual value of the space remaining? In what situation is a pie chart more useful?

roncross@cox.net 01-22-2007 07:25 PM

Pie charts taste yummy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biovizier (Post 351363)

Ok, I'll try to be open minded. Please explain what benefit is provided by a pie chart over a display of an actual value of the space remaining? In what situation is a pie chart more useful?

The only advantage to a pie chart is where space is tight and you don't have enough room to display actual values. But then again, you can use a bar chart or a thermometer chart or some other chart that conserves space. One example of this would be the use of menu meter in the menu bar that displays the amount of memory used.

Where the Finder is concerned this isn't the case because contextual menu, get info have enough room to display actual values with more information.

davidw 01-22-2007 07:33 PM

Quote:

Please explain what benefit is provided by a pie chart over a display of an actual value of the space remaining?
Over a pie chart??
I want both, not one or the other
The use of the percentage of a hard drive is very usefull to see.

I Have a jump drive, that i've been saving files on for school.
I would like to know, that in 2 months i've 45% of my storage,
not after two monts i have 230mb left
If your looking at the ammount of time that a storage device will last you when you know that you will be saving the same sorts of files on it ever day, then its good to see.

I definatly see your point though, im just kind of bummed you ruined my great reason to say i like something about windows. It made me feel like i was still open minded to different operating systems.

roncross@cox.net 01-22-2007 07:50 PM

Ok, you are just saying that you like pie charts and that is your preference for reviewing the amount of space on your disk. I understand that, but unless you find an application out there or develop this feature yourself, you will have to live without it on OS X.

It's very natural for people coming over from Windows to Mac to expect some of the same features, but you have to get use to the way Apple computers work and hopefully you find that the features in OS X far outweigh the benefits that you are used to in Windows.

I used Windows for a long time and there were things that I missed when I switched over, however, since I have been using the Mac for sometime now, I don't even remember what it is I missed. Apple computers are very capable machines and you will probably find it more enjoyable to use in the long run when compared to Windows.

davidw 01-22-2007 07:57 PM

im actually grew up all on macintosh,
I was just using a windows computer and realized that i liked seeing a piechart displaying the percentage of space remaining on the hard drive.

biovizier, do you really not like seeing a pie chart for storage devices?

styrafome 01-22-2007 08:14 PM

All I care about is, am I down to around 10GB or less of free space? If no, not to worry. If yes, time to think about managing it.

I really don't care about pie chart or text readouts of percentage because percentage indicates a different absolute amount of free space on different capacity drives. Seeing "5% free" on my 80GB notebook drive vs. my 500GB desktop drive means two radically different amounts of free space, inconsistent and not as useful as the absolute number Apple already gives us today.

roncross@cox.net 01-22-2007 08:26 PM

Well davidw, I have to agree with you that Windows does better pie charts. Even the Mac Commercials admit it.

http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/

See work vs. home video

davidw 01-22-2007 09:13 PM

windows have their pie charts down for sure

tlarkin 01-22-2007 09:18 PM

i actually prefer how my linux box does it. It lists the drive and has two colloms, one says capacity and the other says free space.

Mikey-San 01-22-2007 10:17 PM

I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS THREAD HAS GONE FOR TWO PAGES ABOUT PIE CHARTS ARE YOU PEOPLE KIDDING ME

chabig 01-22-2007 11:16 PM

Excel makes pretty good pie charts. Keynote makes really great pie charts.

Mikey-San 01-22-2007 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chabig (Post 351437)
Excel makes pretty good pie charts. Keynote makes really great pie charts.

Keynote makes pretty crappy spreadsheets, though.

davidw 01-23-2007 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey-San (Post 351425)
I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS THREAD HAS GONE FOR TWO PAGES ABOUT PIE CHARTS ARE YOU PEOPLE KIDDING ME

Thats why its in the coat room!!!! :)
I got quite a laugh from that man, right on

Quote:

Excel makes pretty good pie charts. Keynote makes really great pie charts.
yea, your right. I withdraw my comment about microsoft knowing how to do pie charts, apple pie charts have texture!!!

schneb 01-23-2007 06:01 PM

Mmmm, Apple pie charts.


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