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lxmorj 01-15-2007 12:46 PM

The Flash
 
If I understand it, anytime the blackout app is 'brought to front,' it instantly calls its partnered app to the front. So it dips behind the black for a moment, then is brought back up.

Mikey-San 01-15-2007 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksudvm2b (Post 349568)
Very cool program. Out of random curiousity, why does clicking on the black background make the whole screen "refresh" (flash, etc)? Also, why did something called Speech Feedback open?

The flicker is because the blocking window jumps when you click on it, and the application sees that, returning you to the illuminated application instead of letting you go anywhere else. I am investigating ways around this, but this is the best solution I have so far. (This is all the discussion I plan on doing with this issue here, so don't clutter up the thread with more. Sorry.) The flicker is reduced in the latest build (unreleased), as I have rewritten the code that handles the core of that function to be faster.

I cannot explain Speech Feedback opening. I don't use the speech system anywhere. Can you outline a specific series of steps to trigger it? (And I mean specific!) If so, e-mail me the steps to reproduce, along with the following:

- A system profiler report
- The output of the following terminal command at the time of the problem occurring:

ps -aux > ~/Desktop/ps_output.txt

(This will generate a text file on your desktop.)

Address: com dot freeverse at michael

Mikey-San 01-15-2007 01:03 PM

Quote:

its partnered app
Illuminated app. http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsys...ot-science.gif

Simon Ocean 01-15-2007 05:19 PM

Have a look at this PodCast:

PodCast

ArcticStones 01-15-2007 05:42 PM

Hiding control panel
 
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In your coming release, do you have an easy way to hide Think’s control panel? So far I’ve been dragging it to an edge or corner.

Mikey-San 01-15-2007 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 349618)
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In your coming release, do you have an easy way to hide Think’s control panel? So far I’ve been dragging it to an edge or corner.

I am playing with opacity settings when you don't have your mouse over it, but with the replaced HUD-style controls (most of which are not in 0.2), it's no longer loud and in your focus space at 20% opacity or less.

I do not intend to have it disappear completely in any form. It simply raises too many usability concerns with the "how do you remove it/bring it back" question.

Edit: In 0.2, it fades to 20% opacity. I'm experimenting with values from 10% to 20% in the current builds to see what feels best with the new controls.

ArcticStones 01-15-2007 05:58 PM

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Good point; didn’t think of that.
I’m looking forward to the new version -- using the current one daily.

Mikey-San 01-15-2007 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 349621)
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Good point; didn’t think of that.
I’m looking forward to the new version -- using the current one daily.

E-mail me at my Freeverse address. I'll give you the current build so you can hunt for bugs.

com dot freeverse at michael

ksudvm2b 01-15-2007 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey-San (Post 349574)
I cannot explain Speech Feedback opening. I don't use the speech system anywhere. Can you outline a specific series of steps to trigger it? (And I mean specific!) If so, e-mail me the steps to reproduce, along with the following:


Oops, that was my mistake. I opened several programs to see how Think was going to work, and one of the programs I opened was Chess, which also has some secondary window called Speech Feedback that I was unable to close independently. Sorry for putting the cart ahead of the horse and asking about it before I looked into it more.

Mikey-San 01-18-2007 02:56 PM

Current build is up:

http://freeverse.cachefly.net/Mac/Think/Think051C14.dmg

Notes:

- Multiple screen support hasn't been landed yet. No need to report it.
- No hotkeys yet. It's on the table, scientists are looking into it, etc.
- Core Image is now used in certain places within Think. What does this mean for you? Think 0.5 requires Mac OS X 10.4 or later. I may add 10.3.9 support before 1.0, but for right now, we're shooting Tiger guns. You do not need a Quartz Extreme-enabled Mac to run Think.

ksudvm2b 01-18-2007 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey-San (Post 350309)
Current build is up:

http://freeverse.cachefly.net/Mac/Think/Think051C14.dmg

Notes:

- Multiple screen support hasn't been landed yet. No need to report it.
- No hotkeys yet. It's on the table, scientists are looking into it, etc.
- Core Image is now used in certain places within Think. What does this mean for you? Think 0.5 requires Mac OS X 10.4 or later. I may add 10.3.9 support before 1.0, but for right now, we're shooting Tiger guns. You do not need a Quartz Extreme-enabled Mac to run Think.


So what's new in this build (besides using Core Image)?

mark hunte 01-18-2007 06:47 PM

So far working Sweet..:)

Mikey-San 01-18-2007 06:49 PM

Quote:

So what's new in this build (besides using Core Image)?
It's mostly under the hood, except for the redesigned floating control panel.

- Bug fixes involving everything from refocusing to window drawing
- Control panel no longer resembles a train wreck (as mentioned)
- Performance increases
- Gearing up to implement multiple screen support, which will probably break everything because the universe hates progress

Mikey-San 01-19-2007 05:24 PM

Think 0.6! Multiple screen support has landed, though some bugs remain in the implementation. If something's broken here that wasn't broken previously, that's why.

http://freeverse.cachefly.net/Mac/Think/Think061D5.dmg

Before running, delete your Think preferences:

~/Library/Preferences/com.freeverse.think.plist

Report issues to the e-mail address in the disk image window.

ArcticStones 01-19-2007 05:50 PM

I’m really enjoying this!
 
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Just downloaded and installed the new build.

For me, Think works beautifully -- it’s far more than I dreamt of when I started this thread. And I really appreaciate what you’ve done, Mikey-San!

One feature that I particularly like, is the possibility of setting the background opacity/translucency exactly as I please. And I also like the ability to subtly control the precise hue of my background colour. I usually opt for a really saturated dark with a touch of blue, or perhaps a bit of warmth.

I’m curious about something. Under List you have a whole arsenal of colours, hues and tints, and whatever -- with names like Apple, Developer and ProKitGrey. Can you explain these?


Today’s colour link: The glass art of William Morris. Click Artwork. Enjoy! :)
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Mikey-San 01-19-2007 06:02 PM

Quote:

I’m curious about something. Under List you have a whole arsenal of colours, hues and tints, and whatever -- with names like Apple, Developer and ProKitGrey. Can you explain these?
It's the standard Mac OS X colour panel, actually. (Check it out in TextEdit, for example.) That arsenal comes stock.

Mikey-San 01-23-2007 11:57 PM

http://www.mikey-san.net/thinkbecause.png

One-point-zero, soon.

GavinBKK 01-24-2007 01:12 AM

How soon......?
:-)
I would really like to try this. Nice one, Mikey-San.
Gavin

ArcticStones 01-24-2007 01:40 PM

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Brilliant payoff! Nice icon. :)

Mikey-San 01-29-2007 12:46 PM

Avast! 1.0!

http://freeverse.cachefly.net/Mac/Think/Think.dmg

Complete with manual, as seen on TV. Enjoy, guys.

Also: Think is freeware, as far as I'm aware. I won't turn this thread into a giant plug for our site, but if you dig Think, take a few minutes and check out the rest of freeverse.com. We'd certainly appreciate it! :)

If you guys find bugs, you can hit up our support page and let us know:

http://www.freeverse.com/support/


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