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ShavenYak 01-09-2007 02:18 PM

Gosh, there was NO patented "one more thing"??

I didn't expect new Macs - everything is Intel now, and there's not really any new technology to put in them at the moment. Price drops would be about the only likely change - especially for the Mini. I did expect to hear a bit more about Leopard.

You're probably right about a new Media Event, with Leopard release info, iSight built into the Cinema Displays, and perhaps some updated Macs.

jonjonc 01-09-2007 02:20 PM

I would gladly sacrifice the use of the visual voicemail for the ability to actually use the phone. While a breakthrough, I think a function like that should be a perk, should you choose to connect through Cingular.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-Cingular. It just flat out does not fit for my lifestyle. If it works for other people, more power to 'em.

I guess I just feel like being whiney because assuming that Cingular keeps the scope of their network relatively constant, I'll never have the privilege of owning an iPhone.

Maybe its just me, but if my car were to break down in the middle of the barren New Mexican desert, I would rather have a signal than visual voicemail...

ShavenYak 01-09-2007 02:27 PM

Wow, folks, check out the new Airport Extreme base station - now with 802.11n, three LAN ports, USB port for printer OR DISK sharing. Pretty cool, though not keynote-worthy I suppose.

schwartze 01-09-2007 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fat elvis (Post 347924)
$599!!! Effff that. That is $1 short of what I pay in rent every month.

I am extremely jealous.

gsprague 01-09-2007 02:38 PM

Well since Cingular works terrible in New England...and I mean god aweful terrible. We will still be able to use the iPhone with Verizon because it is a GSM phone, right?

ShavenYak 01-09-2007 02:45 PM

Verizon isn't GSM, so no way. The only other nationwide GSM carrier in the US is T-Mobile. That said, it's possible the phones will be locked to Cingular anyway, although I understand they are good about being willing to unlock phones once the contract expires. So by June of 2009 you can have an iPhone on T-Mobile. Which may be no better than Cingular in your area, although it is somewhat better here.

Then again, maybe unlocked iPhones will be available once it launches in Europe.

jonjonc 01-09-2007 03:08 PM

I know that T-mobile requires the use of a SIM card for their phones. Does Cingular require this as well?

schwartze 01-09-2007 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonjonc (Post 347956)
I know that T-mobile requires the use of a SIM card for their phones. Does Cingular require this as well?

Yes... and I am adding these words because I was told the message length was to short.

Jay Carr 01-09-2007 04:20 PM

I just wanted to hear about Leopard...

The phone is nice, but, well, I think the new OS would have been more pertinent to me, and many other users for that matter. I wonder what the hold up is, and I hope this doesn't start looking like a Windows launch.

lostduck 01-09-2007 04:31 PM

Quote:

What it does mean is that journalists will be invited to a new Apple Media Event within 10 weeks. Guaranteed!

I hope you are right, it didn't feel like a coincidence that they dropped 'computer' from their name.

I wonder if the new and improved Apple Inc. will stay out of the backdating option practice, really revolting.

styrafome 01-09-2007 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fat elvis (Post 347924)
I'll stick with my free company phone for now.

In the meantime, you could get the company to change their standard phone...:D

jonjonc 01-09-2007 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostduck (Post 347980)
I wonder if the new and improved Apple Inc. will stay out of the backdating option practice, really revolting.

I have found this practice quite disturbing as well.

Irene 01-09-2007 05:40 PM

I got my MacBook in October. Then Apple introduced the Core 2 Duo MacBook. Okay, I could live with my machine depreciating faster than I can type. But now they have enabled the higher speed wifi for only the Core 2 MacBook but not my MacBook Core Duo and I am upset.

paragonconcept 01-09-2007 06:10 PM

mirrors
 
any mirrors of the video keynote?

Phil St. Romain 01-09-2007 07:16 PM

Very interesting, the iPhone. I've had my Palm for almost five years and was hoping for an iPod/PDA combo to replace it. I don't really need the phone part, but syncing up with iCal and Address Book would be handy; that's mostly what I use the PDA for. If you can set up your Mail on iPhone and sync it to your computer, that would be very handy as well. And you get a very nice video iPod.

G4Man 01-09-2007 07:29 PM

iPhone
 
I'm torn. On one hand, this is a real breakthrough in the type of multifunctional devices that mobile phones seem to be evolving into. Love the touch screen concept, that navigation

Someone suggested a version that was independent of phone technology, communicating via WiFi and Bluetooth. Nokia has a similar concept out there, as can be seen here http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=415 I haven't seen this little box, but I'm going to bet that a phoneless iPhone (call it the iLife device) would outperform it on technology, versatility, data storage, and sheer coolness. We may be on to something here.

The thing about iPhone as a mobile data device is that it's obsolescent everywhere. For data 3G is the thing, even on GSM networks. In Europe high-end phones (I'm thinking SE K790 here, but only because I recently saw "Casino Royale") have WCDMA 2100 mhtz for UMTS data. In the States Cingular has HSDPA available in their 100 largest markets already. Verizon and Sprint both have competing "fast" data available - I use one of Sprint's broadband cards for work. GSM EDGE data is obsolete, or at least obsolescent. Do we now need an iPhone version for Europe, one for Noth America? What would work in the fast-growing Asian market? A phoneless device that could transfer data fast enough to take advantage of a 3G phone could work.

Or I could be worrying too much. Quad-band GSM will get you voice on most of the planet, and EDGE data on much of it. WiFi can be had a lot of places. Maybe this will work after all. But Cingular!? I'm still waiting to see what the non-subsidized price will be.

Anybody else notice that in the iPhone Apple has the makings of a really great tablet device?

tlarkin 01-09-2007 07:38 PM

who makes the parts for the iphone? Please do not say motorolla, b/c they make crap!

Also, who wants to start taking bets on how long it will take cisco to sue apple for the use of the name "iphone" ?

schneb 01-09-2007 07:46 PM

On the whole, it was a let-down for me. The entire show for what, 2 products?

On the other hand, the iPhone's 200 patents are going to open a world of opportunity toward the iTablet. The multitouch technology looks very much like the screen used in Minority Report. Imagine the iPhone's Hi-Res screen in 17" or larger? Imagine the case being one large sheet of hi-impact plastic? Apple is just putting its toe in the water here.

Also, did you notice the buttons? This is running OSX, and I saw NO DOCK! If the Dock was all that great, why is it not on the iPhone? I think we are going to see a shift in focus with Apple's interface. And I believe that Leopard will have quite a bit to do with it.

ArcticStones 01-09-2007 07:57 PM

.
So my question is:

Can I purchase the iPhone in California in June.
Unlock it. Take it back to Norway and put it to good use? :cool:

schwartze 01-09-2007 08:04 PM

I'm not really interested in the phone. I'm not a person who checks my email when I am away and I am happy enough with my video ipod.

What I was interested in was the Appletv. It's going to be very tough for me not to run out and get the first incarnation of it with the smaller hard drive. The next one will be bigger, right? I mean they can do it in an ipod? I have resisted tivo and a dvr from my cable company, but this might just break me.

I have DVDs collecting dust because I am just too lazy to get up when I am there on the couch to put them in but would happily rip and encode them to go into itunes to play on the tv. I don't want to deal with building a mythtv thing because I live in a tiny apartment and even placing an old pc tower there is not worth it.

What this is making me think is that my hard drive is just too small, on my computer and on the first version of the Appletv.

When did an 80 gig HD become to/o small? How big do they make HDs for the PPC 15" powerbooks anyway? The thing runs beautifully. I would have to think that investing in a larger HD is going to be a lot cheaper than going for a new computer (not gonna happen).


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