Ethernet Port on G3 powerbook
 

How do you check to see if your ethernet port on a G3 Powerbook Mach ID406 333 HMS Beigh Key Board is working right. Using OS 9.1

By using it. Can you tell us the details of the problem you are having?

Trevor

Ethernet Port on G3 powerbook
 

I am unable to connect my DSL SBC yahoo. I wonder if my ethernet port has failed.Have tried many setup changes with my TCP/IPand none work.Using a Siemens Speedstream 4100 ADSL .

Does your internet connection work with another computer? Have you tried swapping cables?

Trevor

My Imac GE 400MHz using the the same cable on the siemen work great. When I disconnet my IMac to the sieman and try to use the same cable on my powerbook I can't get a connection . tried many different setting with the help of SBC yahoo on line but noting seems to work

How OLD is your G3 PowerBook? Is it a WallStreet, a Lombard, or a Pismo?

Interesting fact of life for Macs old enough to have printer/modem (classic serial): under OS 9, AppleTalk not only still supports the ancient legacy LocalTalk option, it's the default; the machine won't LET YOU switch AppleTalk from LocalTalk to Ethernet unless the Ethernet is actually connected to something; if there's nothing plugged in, or if the port is dead/damaged, you'll get an error message under OS 9 about how the default LocalTalk port is going to be used instead.

ethernet Port G3 Powerbook
 

Not sure how old my powerbook is


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That would make yours a Lombard - the model Apple refers to as a Bronze Keyboard

Ethernet Port G3 powerbook
 

What year were the Lombards powerbook (Bronze Keyboard) Made. Were there any problems with Ethernet connection.

The Lombard was sold in 1999. They are not known for problems with the Ethernet connections.

Trevor

As AHUNTER3 pointed out about appletalk.

Have you checked to see what its set to.

look at the control panel 'Appletalk'

It should be on 'ethernet' but maybe set to 'Localtalk'

I don't think Lombards know about LocalTalk, lacking the port for same. LocalTalk requires a classic Mac DIN-8 serial port. A Lombard's going to have USB instead, and I'm pretty sure AppleTalk only exists over Ethernet when one is using a Lombard.

(It's a good method on a WallStreet though)

Doh.. your right, I'm so used to looking at it on my old G4 towers.

But it is still worth them looking there to see if the ethernet is registered.

Still can.t connect. SBC Yahoo is saying that my ethernet adapter is not working ????? How do I check this out.

If my enternal ethernet is no longer working on my powerbook is ther any other way for me to connect my DSL Yahoo.

I believe that your Siemens Speedstream 4100 is a DSL modem, but is not a router. It only has one telephone jack (for DSL) and one ethernet jack. Is that all correct?
http://subscriber.communications.sie.../4100_back.jpg

Do you have a router?

You mention having an iMac. What are the settings used on this iMac? For example, much DSL uses something called PPPoE. Do you have the same PPPoE settings on your Lombard as you do on your iMac? What exactly ARE those settings?

Trevor

Imac TCP/IP setting

Ethernet
using DCHP Server
IP 75.42.154.46
Subnet 255.255.255.0
Router 75.42154.47
Name Server 192.168.0.1

These setting work great on My Imac. Try using these setting on my lombard
and they don.t work no connection. Once again SBC Yahoo is saying that the issue is with my ethernet adapter. I am at a complete loss.

As I mentioned above, most DSL uses PPPoE. Please tell us the PPPoE settings (System Preferences > Network > Show: your network interface, such as Built-in ethernet > PPPoE tab on both your iMac and your Lombard.

Trevor

Thank you Trevor for your help. Keep in mind you are dealing with a 71 year oldMac user with a limited knowledge of Apple systems. I went to my System Preference and tried to open It( The Document " Systems Preference"could not be opened, Because the application program that created it could not be found) This sounds like my OS 9.1 is not working right. What is my next step

If it's PPPoE and OS 9, you need a 3rd-party application to make the connection. Verizon supplied me with mine. My folks, using a different BabyBell for their DSL, have a different OS 9 app.

It's simpler under OS X because PPPoE is supported by the OS itself.

At any rate, you're most likely going to need some software from Yahoo in order to make the connection from your OS 9 box.


OH, and you can't open "the document 'System Preferences' under OS 9. It's not a document at all, it's an OS X application.

alexo,

Sorry I missed that you were using OS 9.1. PPPoE is fully supported in OS X without anything additional, but as AHunter3 mentions, you need a third party app in OS 9.

Your next step is to ask SBC for a disc with OS 9 PPPoE software on it. Or else you can use OS X (up to and including Panther 10.3 but not including Tiger 10.4) on your Lombard rather than OS 9.1.

Trevor

PLEASE!!!!!!!Someone tell me how to check to see if my ethnert port is working. Yahaoo keeps saying it's a problem with my ethernet adapter.

I already answered that question.

Please tell us if you have SBC Yahoo!'s software disc, and whether or not you have installed it on your OS 9 system?

If you haven't got it, you need to get it from them, no matter what the Level 1 tech support people are telling you.

If you have got it but it's never been installed, you need to install it.

If you've got it and installed it, then you need to tell us that.

Trevor

PLEASE!!!!!! Some one tell me how to check my ethernet port to make sure it is working. If the ethernet port is dead is their any way to connect to my Yahoo SBC DSL by USB.SBC Yahoo is telling me the Sieman 4100 does not require software. MY Imac is working on the seiman 4100 without any software from SBC Yahoo

You have an iMac also, you say?

Hook an ethernet cable to the ethernet port on the iMac on one end and the PowerBook on the other. Create a new Network profile on the iMac as follows:

Name: Crossover

IP Address: 192.168.0.3
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Router: 192.168.0.1

Now on the PowerBook (which is running OS 9), open the TCP/IP Control Panel, do ⌘-K to bring up "Configurations", duplicate existing Configuration, Rename it "Crossover", Make it active, then set it up like this:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Router: 192.168.0.1

Go back to the iMac (which I assume is running OS X, yes??). Open the Sharing PrefsPane. Turn on FTP Access.

Go back to the PowerBook. Using an FTP program (or a web browser if you don't have an FTP program), see if you can FTP to the iMac's IP address. If you can, you've got a working ethernet connection. If you can't....

Go to the iMac. Open Terminal. Type this and then hit return:

ping 192.168.0.1

See if you get a successful ping of the PowerBook.

If neither of those things work, I would think it highly likely that your ethernet port is roadkill.


Do they KNOW your PowerBook is running OS 9? Exactly what TCP/IP Control Panel setting did they have you enter, if they did not have you use 3rd-party software?

Oh, and if your iMac is not running OS X, that implies a difference in configuration of your TCP/IP Control Panel, and you should change the settings on the PowerBook to match those of the iMac.

Thank You again for trying to help me. Both the Imac and powrebook are running OS 9.1. When I go back to my Imac IN OS9.1 how do I turn on the FTP Acess

There's no native FTP access in OS 9*, but if you have OS 9 on both machines, ignore that step and do this instead:

Go to the AppleTalk Control Panel in each Mac and make sure both of them are set to Ethernet;

Go to the File Sharing Control Panel on the iMac and turn File Sharing on. Go to the PowerBook; go to the Chooser and select AppleShare and see if you now see the iMac listed on the right as a server.

Yes = Ethernet is working just fine
No = You got problems.


If Ethernet is working just fine, make sure the TCP/IP Control Panel settings are absolutely identical for hookup to DSL.


* There are freeware applications that provide FTP Server as an add-on: the ancient NCSA Telnet app and the MacSSH PPC app for making ssh connections. Both of them have FTP Server feature buried away in the Edit menu if I recall correctly.

Thanks AHunter3 I did as you said when I select appleshare in my powerbook,on the right side it says Select a file server and in the box it ask for a Server IP Address.

That is as this should be, except that the iMac should appear there as an Icon + name for you to select. Empty window on the right with no icon? El problemo.

Try it from the other end: See if, after turning on File Sharing on the PB, you can see the PB in the AppleShare window on the iMac.


Hmm..... someone else help me out here, would these Macs be old enough to need a crossover cable instead of a standard Cat-5?

alexo, unless someone chimes in to say that one or the other of these Macs has the build in mode-switcher that eliminates any need for a crossover cable, you should hie yourself off to CompUSA or RadioShack and snag a crossover cable and repeat the experiment before deciding that your ethernet port is hosed.

I know my WallStreet PowerBook (a generation or two older than yours) needs a crossover cable unless it's hooking to a new-enough Mac that the other Mac will do the mode-switching.

Yes, these Macs require a crossover cable.

Trevor

I have a cross over cable and try it. There is no Icon appearing in the Right Box.

Sounds like there's no functioning ethernet, then :(

Many Thanks to all you for working with me on this issue.