Hi all,

greetings from Poland. First of all I want to apologize for my weak english.. I must remember this language. Last week I've bought used 12'' iBook 1.33 GHz. Unfortunately i also have KP connected with airport. I have Leopard installed, so new drivers didn't solve the problem. I've read this thread and I decided to delete airport kext from the system. Since this, i have no KP but now I'm looking for USB Wifi card which is compatible with OS X. I found Edimax EW-7318Ug. It's cheap and OS X compatible. I'm going to buy it today. I hope this dongle will solve my wireless problem and I don't believe that Apple will help us.

Once again I apologize for my english.

B.r

L.Dymek

Update :)

I've used paper trick with my Airport. Results? No more KP and my wireless network now works. But how long?

Hi dymek,
From my part my solving was perfect. Bough an Asus sub laptop (901 with Atom processor)
and it makes the job what I need to take with me a computer. It has wireless, camera and all the programs to communicate, televisions, media players. Price was half (about 500 USD) what I had pay for repair. Until now list 12 people convinced not buy Apple computer and they glad with their chose. Such a computer like this Apple ebook I will threw to the rubbish because must not to sell and must not give as a present.
May be after all Apple will not help but they lose more clients and more money compare if they were a honest company.
Best regards,
doki

Hi everyone,

Just got back from my sister a 1.33 ibook I gave her two years ago, she had the problem ever since so we decided to go with the USB adapter right away, no big deal. We just wanted to wait for the natural course of life, a bunch of enthusiastic people suffering from the try/error process, to teach some lazy asses as ourselves to do the things easier....

Anyway, things haven't changed so much, and so far the paper option seems to me to be the best choice, although there is an issue that must be addressed, the paper or carton are materials very sensitive to the temperature and humidity fluctuations, hence there is no guarantee that the mechanical properties will remain the same after a couple of minutes of operation. So what I'm going to do is to get something fancier as steel or titanium (because of my work, I have access to a lot of scrap of top notch materials), something that will keep the pressure between the card and the plastic support constant.
Here's where I need your help, how thick is the largest piece of paper you could be able to put in between? in other words, What is the maximum allowable clearence between both?.


Regarding the complaints... guys, it's been a while since Apple established a huge gap between the ibooks and powerbooks, or macbooks and macbooks pro. Regretably the market that the ibooks and macbooks aim are high school and collegue dudes/chicks who take their asses to the Starbucks or the cafeteria and all that sort of cliches that youngster love to follow. Macbooks don't address a proffessional need, they rather serve as another element to fill in a stereo-type. And if something goes wrong, those of course, will take their fancy asses to the Geniuses and will be sold on anything, even a brand new machine, these dudes generally have a papi who don't give a damn on spending on that, just because they suffered the recessions, wars, starvation or whatever. Steve is not concerned anymore on the geeks, wake UP!, times have changed....

On the other hand, MBP's are still a good choice for people who do actual work, but there's people like myself, who can't afford a MBP for two reasons: the money, and the fact that a MB is more than enough to perform my job and I'm not willing to make anybody richer just because a stupid marketing segmentation which ain't aligned with the technology in any way at all.... GRRRRR!!!!... unless you're a well paid graphic professional, the MBP is the worst investment in terms of return of investment for any non-graphic professional.

Sorry for the whining, and look forward to your answer regarding the clearance.

Thanks a bunch!

By the way, has anybody tried to perform the repair and attempt to turn the ibook on while still open????

Dear fellas.... I have to something to confess....


I SCREWED IT UP!!!!!

I opened the ibook, followed all the instructions per applintosh video, spent more than 2 hours doing everything as best as I could, and when the moment came, I decided to take a look over the connector and the only thing I heard in the mac was a tearing sound, like a zipper you know, I teared apart the ZIFF female socket from the motherboard :-( . I was able to use the bluetooth at the beginning and now neither of both.

This ain't the first time I screw something up like this, there is some force within me that leads me to go a little further every time I fix something...

You know what, I'm taking the AP/BT card out, will try it on my mac mini and sell it for whatever they give me on internet, same thing for the ibook, fortunately I still keep the USB wifi adapter.

Anyway, I found out that the soldering in the last G4 ibooks sucks big time, I also discovered that the problem I used to have turning it on was due to the connector that goes to the power button in the motherboard, also desoldered, I could fix it and now it turns on 10 out 10 attempts, usually was 3 out 10...

Loved macbooks, they are way more easy to open and cheap to fix them. Also love my pismo... but that's another world we'll never see again with apple.

I never thought I'd ever be posting in this thread. But hey, things happen.

I've acquired a 1.33GHz iBook G4. So far, everything works superbly, nothing wrong. I'm able to access the internet through the AirPort card quite fine, and nothing's wrong yet.

Am I at risk for something happening to the AP card? Is there anything that makes it happen?

Well, if yours is 12", there might be a chance that you'd have the same problem eventually. As far as I know, apple never acknowledge this problem as a design flaw, hence there wasn't any preemptive nor corrective measure taken in order to solve it.

Nevertheless, this kind of problem should come up in the first hours of operation, if you been running your ibook for a while now with no problem at all (including annoying kernel panics), there might be high chances that you'll never see a problem. Maybe apple did correct this problem indeed at some specific point, but never made it public, with so many defective computers, it wouldn't have been a wise decision... remember that at the time these problems start to come up, apple was migrating to Intel, which means they abandoned a lot of suppliers, motherboards' included....

Anyway, so far problems with macbooks have been very silly and apple's been very effective solving them, even if the computers are out of warranty (I recently got my sister's MB Core Duo 1.83 a new top case for free, just because it belonged to a defective series), let's hope they stick to Intel and the current suppliers for a while so we can get decent service......

Maybe you won't like to hear this, but if your laptop is indeed a 12" G4/1.33 Ibook (mid 2005), if I were you, I'd sell it and get a new one.... you could stick to G4 if you like it with a powerbook, the difference wouldn't be that much.

Regards!

Sorry, got kinda emotional on my answer :D

You can find out whether you have the same problem pressing the ibook on the left side, just where the audio connector is, maybe 1 or 2 cms towards the space key. As applying the pressure, you'd be able to see a kernel panic message, something like this:

http://www.applintosh.net/uploads/im..._panic_103.jpg

Let us know how it goes... hope you don't have any problem, otherwise you might be interested in this solution :eek: (thanks to whomever took it and uploaded so I everyone can see it doing a simple image search on google)

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3808/photo164df0.jpg

Ciao,

I pressed pretty hard on the left side of the iBook. And yes, it's a 12 incher. Nothing happened.

Guess it's not succumbing to the problem...yet.

EDIT: I also feel your pain on the MacBooks, as my Late 2007 MB is my main production machine, and it has had so many problems that I'm not going to even bother listing them.

Here's a hint though: That stupid, stupid topcase keeps cracking and/or becoming discolored.

Fyi
 

ANTI, Just FYI in case you haven't read the rest of this looong thread, pressing the left corner is a possible temporary remedy for the Kernel Panic problem, not something that causes it. The symptoms and solutions have been discussed ad nauseum, as well as (IMHO) Apple's shameful irresponsibility in not dealing with this defect.

In my case (Mid-2005 12" 1.33Ghz version), I tried the shim trick and it worked for a few weeks. So I tried it again, and it worked for a month and a half or so before failing. At that point I simply removed the Airport/Bluetooth card, bought an aftermarket USB wifi adapter from AfterTheMac.com (not related, no connection etc. etc.) and I've been running flawlessly for many many months. Yes, I have either a USB dongle or a pigtail to deal with, and no Bluetooth, but that's OK for what I do on my iBook.

If your machine doesn't have the problem, don't borrow trouble. But be aware that it may happen one day and plan accordingly.

Thank you all! Same problem as everyone else. Just started happening (KPs when using airport) about a week ago and has gotten progressively worse. Just dropped off the G4 for a $280 makeover, hope that works for a while anyway.

More kernel panics
 

Hi, I have an iBook G4 (12-inch Mid 2005) with 1.33 GHZ and 1 GB RAM. I am also having an issue with kernel panics when airport is on. I wish that Apple would admit that this is a widespread issue and fix the problem. If there is a solution please let me know.


panic(cpu 0 caller 0x000B0504): "Uncorrectable machine check: pc = 0000000000C0E8C4, msr = 0000000000149030, dsisr = 00000000, dar = 0000000000000000\n" " AsyncSrc = 0000000000000000, CoreFIR = 0000000000000000\n" " L2FIR = 0000000000000000, BusFir = 0000000000000010\n"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1228.15.4/osfmk/ppc/trap.c:975
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x0009CC88 0x0009D63C 0x00029DA0 0x000B0504 0x000B0784 0x000B4278
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x32260000)
PC=0x00C0E8C4; MSR=0x00149030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00C0E880; R1=0x1E97F840; XCP=0x00000008 (0x200 - Machine check)
Backtrace:
0x00C0E880 0x00C5B6D4 0x00C046C8 0x00B7F928 0x00B811E4 0x00B81050
0x0035DA48 0x00B810C8 0x00B81448 0x00B78D18 0x00B79040 0x00B79350 0x00B868A0 0x00B81050
0x0035DA48 0x00B810C8 0x00B867CC 0x0003F2A0 0x000B1DD4
Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.driver.AirPortBrcm43xx(365.91.19)@0xbf9000->0xd25fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family(216.1)@0xbd5000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x7b2000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0xb75000
com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0xb75000->0xb93fff
Exception state (sv=0x29bcda00)
PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
9L30

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC
System model name: PowerBook6,7

System uptime in nanoseconds: 2608810733147
unloaded kexts:
com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio 2.5.8f1 - last unloaded 2343179777
loaded kexts:
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.0.2 - last loaded 833452584
com.apple.driver.AppleTAS3004Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager 2.1.8f2
com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6
com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.4.0
com.apple.driver.MotorolaSM56K 1.3.9
com.apple.driver.Portable_PlatformMonitor 1.8.7d5
com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP 1.7.7
com.apple.ATIRadeon9700 5.4.8
com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2
com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9d0
com.apple.driver.AppleHWClock 1.5.2d0
com.apple.driver.AppleADBButtons 3.0
com.apple.driver.IOI2CADT746x 1.0.10f1
com.apple.AppleOnboardDisplay 1.15.1
com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1
com.apple.driver.AppleK2Driver 1.7.2f1
com.apple.driver.AppleI2S 1.0.1`

Fix for iBook G4 Airport Kernel Panics in Leopard
 

I have found a fix for this problem by replacing the kext files responsible for controlling the airport card with dud kext files. I no longer have any kernel panic problems and I now can use my iBook G4 without difficulties with the aid of a USB wireless adapter. I think this is perhaps the best solution I have seen to date.

Full details of how I managed this are available here. http://edpw.wordpress.com/2009/09/18...kernel-panics/

I have an iBook G4 from Dec 2005 and I have been having these same airport panic problems. Strangely, though, they only really started in the last couple months, about four years after I bought the computer. At first I didn't get the panics very much so I didn't pay much attention, but they increased in frequency until I really couldn't turn my computer on without having to turn it off again a few minutes later. I've turned off the airport and it works fine. I have OSX version 10.4.11.

These are the main issues I've noted.

1. at first occasionally and now frequently, my screen will dim and a message will come up with the power symbol in the background saying "you must restart your computer."

2. Sometimes when I restart or turn on my computer it will not be able to detect the airport. The airport icon won't come up in the upper right corner and when I go to "Internet Connect" it says there is no airport.

3. Sometimes the internet and touchpad just got off. In these cases the keyboard still works.

4. Sometimes the screen doesn't come on. I hear a beep noise, but nothing comes up.

It looks like there's not really a solution, but I wanted to document my case, anyway, especially since it seems strange that this problem didn't start until the computer was 4 years old.

That's the same that happened to my sister's computer, I tried to repair it, but in the process I broke the Airport Card's connector, but once I took it off, it stopped having kernel panic crashes, which was perfect!. There are a bunch of USB dongles that can give you wireless connectivity that are compatible with OSX, you could even find one compatible with the new N standard. But that's up to you, some people, wouldn't like to use a dongle on an ibook, which is completely understandable.

As for the trackpad, the flex cable is also quite delicate, when I tried to repair the airport card, I had the same problem, so I reopened it, cleaned the contacts and reconnected the flex cable.

Opening the ibook, if you're a skilled person, is a pretty straightforward process. Some people have even repaired the airport card, whose sole problem is a bad soldering of the socket to the mainboard. There are plenty of videos on the web. Some people have put some stuff to make pressure on the airport card, I personally wouldn't recommend that, because it will eventually give in and will fail again, and the stress on the mainboard would bring undesired consequences which you may regret later.

My sister switched to Intel a couple of years ago and we sold the ibook, since then I get rid of all the information I gathered, but I don't think you'll have problem finding it again. There was a video from a french website that was awesome, great quality.

Good luck,

Ricardo

Valhalla, there is a solution. I've described it at http://edpatonwilliams.co.uk/2009/09...kernel-panics/

Hi all! im new! same problem here or similar!
for teh first period of use of my ibook g4 1,33 ghz everytime i turned on airport i had KP.
Once a formatted it to clean everything, the system don't recognize the airport anymore..still right now!
I changed the card but no solution still have teh same problem. however the system dont recognize airport but recognize Bluetooth...maybe a Logica Board fault?
But we are many people with the same problem, possible that Apple couldn't do nothing?? it is embarassing for a businness like Apple...it's a clear prduction fault not ours! So i think they have to solve this problem!!
I will try here in Italy to contact Apple and ask for a particular person or a manager!
However as i describe, maybe can b the logic board?
Thannks in advanced people!
Tonz

Airport panic
 

Just logging to join the thousands of others who have this same problem with their IBook having a kernel panic related to the airport. I'm disappointed that Apple, who I always considered a high quality product and corporation, has chosen to ignore rather than solve this obvious problem. They obviously underestimate the negative impact that thousands of dissatisfied IBook owners can have on their future sales. I and my immediate family have owned about a dozen Apple products over the years, but we wont be buying any more any time soon. May Jobs smile down on us and make Apple fix this problem for us.