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CAlvarez 10-29-2006 12:52 AM

MacBooks at a geek convention
 
I just came back from the annual Asterisk conference (Asterisk is an open source VoIP platform that I work with). I was shocked at the percentage of MacBook Pros in use by the fellow attendees. I'd say it was easily 40% Macs overall, with most being Pro models and a few standard MacBooks. In the tech labs the Mac presence was actually much higher. Oddly enough the marketing and sales droids were more likely to use Windows while the core tech staffs had mostly Macs.

Most presentations were done in Keynote.

jpb5151 10-29-2006 07:26 AM

Yep, Keynote is very good. It's at the top of my ranking (Keynote -> LaTeX Beamer class -> OpenOffice -> Overhead Transparencies -> ms PowerPoint).

Say, how many left-handed people are at these conferences? I've never done an official count but it seems like there is an unusually high percentage of left-handed folks in fields like computer tech and basic research.

CAlvarez 10-29-2006 02:49 PM

Not sure how I'd know in general, but at the lunch/dinner gatherings I've never noticed any.

hayne 10-29-2006 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CAlvarez (Post 331080)
Not sure how I'd know in general

Well they just look sinister!.

ArcticStones 10-29-2006 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CAlvarez (Post 331080)
Not sure how I'd know in general, but at the lunch/dinner gatherings I've never noticed any.

How can you tell? Unlike Europeans, Americans don’t necessarily eat with a knife and fork – and by that I mean one in each hand, throughout the main course.

CAlvarez 10-29-2006 11:47 PM

I mean, I can tell at meals, but I don't think there would be any way to tell at other times. It's not like anyone uses pen and paper at these things...

styrafome 10-29-2006 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 331179)
How can you tell? Unlike Europeans, Americans don’t necessarily eat with a knife and fork – and by that I mean one in each hand, throughout the main course.

Oh, that's easy. You can (usually) tell both if someone is or is not American and which hand they favor.

If someone eats with utensils in both hands, and the fork stays on the left, it's a European. If the fork is on the right, it's a right-handed American whether or not the knife is in use. If the fork is on the left and there is no knife in the right hand, it's probably a left-handed American.

The dead giveaway for an American, regardless of handedness, is that they'll use the knife with their dominant hand and then switch utensils to put the fork in the dominant hand. The European will be able to cut with the dominant hand and fork it with the other hand without having to switch.

ArcticStones 10-30-2006 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by styrafome (Post 331194)
The dead giveaway for an American, regardless of handedness, is that they'll use the knife with their dominant hand and then switch utensils to put the fork in the dominant hand...

For the life of me I’ve never figured out why someone would eat in such an awkward manner. I know, I know – even men in suits at business luncheons do it; but that’s no excuse. Don’t they teach people how to properly use a knife and fork in America? ;)

I mean even my eight-year-old brother had been practicing that trick for many years before we emigrated to California... :p

Jay Carr 10-30-2006 11:08 AM

I plan on moving to Asia some time, so I started eating with Chop-sticks on a fairly regular basis. That might seem awkward at first, but you get used to it. I'd imagine holding a knife and fork in a different hand than one might be used to is similar.

cwtnospam 10-30-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by styrafome (Post 331194)
If someone eats with utensils in both hands, and the fork stays on the left, it's a European.

I eat that way, but I've never been to Europe. I've been to Canada, but I don't think I had a sit down dinner there - college road trips. ;)

Chop sticks are good to eat with too!

Craig R. Arko 10-30-2006 01:41 PM

Although now after reading this thread, I have to try eating with chopsticks lefthanded.

Don't think I'll attempt holding one in each hand, though. :D

ArcticStones 10-30-2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig R. Arko (Post 331303)
Although now after reading this thread, I have to try eating with chopsticks lefthanded.

Don't think I'll attempt holding one in each hand, though. :D

Maybe not. But if you’re ever on a diet, you might consider making do with one. ;)

styrafome 10-30-2006 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cwtnospam (Post 331298)
I eat that way, but I've never been to Europe.

That just means you value efficiency!:D

ArcticStones 10-30-2006 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cwtnospam (Post 331298)
I eat that way, but I've never been to Europe.

Consider yourself an honorary European. :cool:

mkoreiwo 10-31-2006 07:29 AM

Dull tidbit on the recognition of "handedness"....

There was a WWII era movie in which an American agent was discovered due to the "American" way of switching hands with the knife and fork...

I've been using the "Continental" method for years... it just is more convenient..... guess I could be a spy....

cwtnospam 10-31-2006 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoreiwo (Post 331448)
There was a WWII era movie in which an American agent was discovered due to the "American" way of switching hands with the knife and fork...

That's funny because my mother used to talk about that when we were kids and she was teaching us to use utensils. I guess she had seen the movie!

The continental way is more convenient though.

Photek 10-31-2006 08:41 AM

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How can you tell? Unlike Europeans, Americans don’t necessarily eat with a knife and fork – and by that I mean one in each hand, throughout the main course.
so how do Americans eat?... just a fork... just a knife.... hands?..... feet?!!! :D

I thought eating with a knife and fork was universal and almost archetypal...

CAlvarez 10-31-2006 11:50 AM

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The European will be able to cut with the dominant hand and fork it with the other hand without having to switch.
It's not exclusively American, as I was taught this in Cuba also as a child. I was taught that anything else was boorish and for the lower classes (but not WHY that is so). To this day the European method initially makes me feel the person is impolite, at first.

ThreeBKK 10-31-2006 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalister (Post 331266)
I plan on moving to Asia some time…

FYI: not all Asians use chop-sticks. I'm serious. :)

ThreeBKK 10-31-2006 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ArcticStones (Post 331213)
Don’t they teach people how to properly use a knife and fork in America? ;)

Which part of America are you referring to? Brazil, Cananda, or the Dominican Republic?

I've found that a knife is almost useless as an eating utensil if the food that you are eating is properly prepared. So, with that in mind, why would anyone use the fork with any hand other than the dominant hand? The knife is generally only useful if a) you are eating something very tough, and b) it's too big to get into your mouth.

It sounds like you guys are eating the wrong kinds of foods to me. :rolleyes:

cwtnospam 10-31-2006 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThreeBKK (Post 331509)
It sounds like you guys are eating the wrong kinds of foods to me.

Not wrong. There's nothing like a nice juicy steak! A spicy marinade, and cooked medium rare, the meat still red on the inside when you cut into it... mmmm!

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Originally Posted by CAlvarez (Post 331504)
It's not exclusively American, as I was taught this in Cuba also as a child. I was taught that anything else was boorish and for the lower classes (but not WHY that is so). To this day the European method initially makes me feel the person is impolite, at first.

Funny, I was taught exactly the opposite. You've got to admit that the typical US American looks pretty goofy with a fist clenching their fork. To me it looks as if they expect to fight the beast lying on their plate.

johngpt 10-31-2006 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hayne (Post 331103)
Well they just look sinister!.

Loud groan!!!!!

johngpt 10-31-2006 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by styrafome (Post 331194)
Oh, that's easy. You can (usually) tell both if someone is or is not American and which hand they favor.

If someone eats with utensils in both hands, and the fork stays on the left, it's a European. If the fork is on the right, it's a right-handed American whether or not the knife is in use. If the fork is on the left and there is no knife in the right hand, it's probably a left-handed American.

The dead giveaway for an American, regardless of handedness, is that they'll use the knife with their dominant hand and then switch utensils to put the fork in the dominant hand. The European will be able to cut with the dominant hand and fork it with the other hand without having to switch.

Many years ago, due to an injury to the right wrist, I couldn't hold a fork in the standard manner of folks in the U.S. and supinate the forearm to get the food to my mouth. I disliked holding the fork in the palm down fashion, and have the elbow stick out to the side, so I learned to eat holding the fork in my left. I found it rather efficient to keep the knife in the right.

The right wrist functions well now, but I still eat with fork in left, knife in right. Having the fortunate opportunity to interact with folks from all around the world, I'm often mistaken for having come from Europe.

johngpt 10-31-2006 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThreeBKK (Post 331509)
Which part of America are you referring to? Brazil, Cananda, or the Dominican Republic?

I've found that a knife is almost useless as an eating utensil if the food that you are eating is properly prepared. So, with that in mind, why would anyone use the fork with any hand other than the dominant hand? The knife is generally only useful if a) you are eating something very tough, and b) it's too big to get into your mouth.

It sounds like you guys are eating the wrong kinds of foods to me. :rolleyes:

The flat bladed utensil is quite useful for dredging the flotsam and jetsam onto the conveyance utensil.:)

CAlvarez 11-01-2006 03:53 PM

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A spicy marinade, and cooked medium rare
That's way overcooked. Heathen.


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