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gphaze 09-08-2006 01:21 PM

explorer for Mac..where can I get it?
 
I'm in a wierd spot of sort of needing internet explorer to make sure my web page code works on that platform,but I can't find a place that has it for download, as it's discontinued.

any thoughts on where I can get it?

thank you!

gphaze

voldenuit 09-08-2006 01:26 PM

Nobody in his right mind still uses IE/Mac, it has been discontinued years ago.

Safari and Firefox are the ones you need to check.

schwartze 09-08-2006 01:34 PM

Do you need to make sure it works on IE for Windows or on IE for Mac?

Seems it can be downloaded from here if it is the Mac one you need.

http://downloads.theregister.co.uk/M...et/ie-mac.html

tlarkin 09-08-2006 01:35 PM

try using crossover (beta) and install IE7 and see if it works. I haven't tried it yet myself but would be interested if it worked.

Sometimes you need IE for stupid active x based websites :mad:

macsolver 09-08-2006 01:39 PM

Download from here
 
Hi,

I found a disk image for the Internet Explorer 5.2.3 installer, and I have put it on bigupload.com for you. Use the following link (there may be a 30 second count down before the page is displayed):

http://www.bigupload.com/d=2CEB6CFF

On this page next to the yellow “bigupload” logo type the numbers next to the download button into the box next to the numbers and hit the download button. The download should start soon after.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Nick

voldenuit 09-08-2006 01:46 PM

Note that IE for Mac

• stinks
• has no significant market-share on the Mac any longer
• is completely different from recent Windows versions

In other words, it is one way or the other completely useless for whatever testing you may want to do with it.

gphaze 09-08-2006 01:46 PM

Hey, thanks for those links and uploads.

yeah, I just need to see how my code works on explorer on a mac; later, I'll check on PC.

it's been so long since I had any use for that thing..I don't even have any old copies of it anywhere!

big help!


g

tlarkin 09-08-2006 01:55 PM

http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

use the newest version of IE on your mac

Some sites only work in IE and its retarded, but thats why i have IE on my linux box at work, some of my vendor specific sites only run in IE.

schwartze 09-08-2006 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voldenuit (Post 320386)
Note that IE for Mac

• stinks
• has no significant market-share on the Mac any longer
• is completely different from recent Windows versions

In other words, it is one way or the other completely useless for whatever testing you may want to do with it.

While you might be right with your list, the last place I was working at still ran OS9 and had IE for Mac on many of the computers with OSX because they weren't upgrading.

While it might stink, there are people that use it so it's not completely useless to test if someone wants to get their info across to these people.

gphaze 09-08-2006 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schwartze (Post 320394)
While it might stink, there are people that use it so it's not completely useless to test if someone wants to get their info across to these people.

yeah, exactly. it's a pig with lipstick, but if people who might visit my site use it, I need to make sure my page works for them.

that has been the lesson of the web going all the way back since the big disrespecting of standards by an un-named entity.

you have to make sure your code works on browsers people might use, even if you yourself dont use them.

I'd be in hog heaven if I could design for safari and be done widdit!


gphaze

JDV 09-08-2006 02:09 PM

The problem with IE for the Mac is that it is now so old that even sites that require IE might not work properly with 5.2.3; many require version 6 or above. It's a real problem for those without a PC hanging around somewhere for those sites that are critical, but picky. Ironically, the more critical they are, the more likely they are to be picky because they've implemented ActiveX functions for specialized purposes. As for IE 7, I still haven't gotten that to run on my Windows machine (though mine is slightly exotic)!

Joe VanZandt

gphaze 09-08-2006 03:38 PM

Ah....I see the issue there...

well, is having that version for Mac better than nothing?

my wife has an XP PC, but it's a pain to proof on her machine because I have to upload the files to the site first, then look at them via the web.

then again, it isn't exactly like carrying a 10 ton boulder uphill...

heh...

gphaze

schwartze 09-08-2006 03:41 PM

If you have websharing turned on you can view your site from her machine without any uploading to the server first.

Just open browser. Point to your machine. See what it looks like.

styrafome 09-08-2006 03:43 PM

Can you just share your site local folder from your Mac and point her Windows browser to it over the local network?

ThreeDee 09-08-2006 03:43 PM

It is a very good thing to make your website compatible with as many browsers as possible, but:

1. IE is unsupported.
2. It's so old, even sites that say "This page requires IE" don't work with the Mac version.
3. Firefox is for 10.2 or later, same as Camino, and iCab even works for 10.1. If anyone still uses 10.0, well, they should upgrade.
4. Anyone still using Mac OS 9 (or earlier) only have the choice of iCab, an old Mozilla build, or an old Netscape build.
5. IE Mac doesn't even work on MSN.com!
6. Why would someone still using IE:Mac keep using it when most of the pages are broken with it? Just to visit your site?
7. Trying to make your site work on IE:Mac might even make supporting newer browsers even harder.

So you are saying the %0.001 of people still using IE:Mac on Mac OS 10.1 or earlier, without the slightest clue of what upgrades are, what other browsers there are, and will most likely want to visit your site.

Well, I once had to boot into OS9 in a emergency, and the only thing available to go online was the prehistoric Netscape 0.2. Yes, thats right, 0.2. It opened, i typed google.com, then i . In a half text/source code/odd/image/search results filled page, i found iCab. I clicked the link, and it loaded up iCab's site. I clicked 'Download', found in a bunch of jibberish code and javascript it didn't understand. Then I got an error saying that it didn't know what the heck a '.php' file was, and crashed. Not like that has anything to do with IE, but, well... Nevermind.

tlarkin 09-08-2006 03:57 PM

I just installed IE 6 SP1 on my Mac Pro desktop here at work via crossover. If you don't have an x86 computer you would have to use VPC

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/9...ure1au0.th.png

ThreeDee 09-08-2006 04:04 PM

Or use the free but a bit slow Q.

gphaze 09-08-2006 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by styrafome (Post 320421)
Can you just share your site local folder from your Mac and point her Windows browser to it over the local network?

I never worked it out.

the 2 machines are on the same ethernet hub, but I never had the time or patience to make them talk to each other...

is this a simple thing to do?


g

voldenuit 09-08-2006 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gphaze (Post 320432)
is this a simple thing to do?

Dismayingly so.
Activate websharing, look up your IP, type it in her browser and you should be in business.

gphaze 09-08-2006 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voldenuit (Post 320444)
Dismayingly so.
Activate websharing, look up your IP, type it in her browser and you should be in business.

outstanding!

thanks for that info!!


gphaze

styrafome 09-08-2006 07:39 PM

Mac/PC home networking is not too hard. Load up VNC/Remote Desktop and suddenly you can control/access any computer in the home from any other regardless of OS.

tlarkin 09-09-2006 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by styrafome (Post 320463)
Mac/PC home networking is not too hard. Load up VNC/Remote Desktop and suddenly you can control/access any computer in the home from any other regardless of OS.

however you should take security into consideration. when sending data over the internet anyone can see what you are sending unless it is secure

styrafome 09-09-2006 04:25 AM

If it's all happening on my LAN side of my router, will anyone on the WAN side be able to see my traffic? I'm under the impression that LAN traffic is not a security risk if all wired clients are mine and the wireless network is secured (WPA). I am not doing any funny stuff with the router like opening ports in the firewall. (And this is getting off topic, sorry.)

voldenuit 09-09-2006 06:38 AM

No worries, unless you have hostile users on your LAN, you're fine.

stevebr 09-09-2006 12:26 PM

browsers.evolt.org
 
Getting back to the original question...

You'll find old versions of many web browsers for many platforms at browsers.evolt.org. This includes just about every version of IE/Mac.

tlarkin 09-09-2006 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by styrafome (Post 320524)
If it's all happening on my LAN side of my router, will anyone on the WAN side be able to see my traffic? I'm under the impression that LAN traffic is not a security risk if all wired clients are mine and the wireless network is secured (WPA). I am not doing any funny stuff with the router like opening ports in the firewall. (And this is getting off topic, sorry.)


sorry for some reason i thought i read that you were file sharing over the internet


as for anyone with an intel mac and needs to run IE, just get cross over and download and install IE as normal.


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